off topic chat thread

[Ben Dover]

@crusher Khabib is Dagestani Avar as far as I know. Check this shit out

Target: Avar
Distance: 2.7937% / 0.02793743
43.6 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
22.6 Satsurblia_CHG
21.0 Mediterranean
8.8 Zagros_Mountains_10KYA_IRN_Wezmeh_N_WC1
3.4 Arabian_Hunter-Gatherer_Simulated
0.6 Southeast_Siberia_10KYA_RUS_Shamanka_N

 

[KARABOĞA]

Target: Chechen
Distance: 2.7966% / 0.02796635
33.4 Satsurblia_CHG
32.0 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
25.6 Mediterranean
5.4 Arabian_Hunter-Gatherer_Simulated
1.8 East_Asia(center)_10KYA_CHN_Yellow_River_XW-M1R18
1.6 Zagros_Mountains_10KYA_IRN_Wezmeh_N_WC1
0.2 East_Asia(north)_10KYA_CHN_Amur_River_9200BP

can u post circassian and turkish?

 

[Ben Dover]

can u post circassian and turkish?

Look at the steppe of Chechens bro

 

[Ben Dover]

@goldenhand btw which turkish reference do you want me to post

 

[KARABOĞA]

Look at the steppe of Chechens bro

almost half

edit: no it's avar

 

[KARABOĞA]

@goldenhand btw which turkish reference do you want me to post

nw

 

[Ben Dover]

Target: Circassian
Distance: 3.0434% / 0.03043418
35.6 Satsurblia_CHG
27.6 Mediterranean
21.2 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
6.0 Arabian_Hunter-Gatherer_Simulated
3.2 East_Asia(north)_10KYA_MNG_East_N
3.0 Central_Europe_10KYA_Vatya_HG_Simulated
2.2 Southeast_Siberia_10KYA_RUS_Shamanka_N
1.0 East_Asia(north)_10KYA_CHN_Amur_River_9200BP
0.2 North_America_10KYA_CAN_XVII-B-939

 

[Ben Dover]

nw

Target: Turkish_Northwest
Distance: 2.1856% / 0.02185643
35.8 Mediterranean
21.6 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
13.4 Satsurblia_CHG
8.6 East_Asia(north)_10KYA_MNG_East_N
6.8 Arabian_Hunter-Gatherer_Simulated
4.0 Western_Iran_10KYA_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
3.4 Northern_Iran_10KYA_IRN_Belt_Cave_Meso_I2312_all_d
2.4 East_Asia(center)_10KYA_CHN_Yumin_N
2.4 South_Baltic_Coast_10KYA_Baltic_BA_HG_Simulated
1.2 East_Asia(center)_10KYA_CHN_Yellow_River_XW-M1R18
0.4 Central_Europe_10KYA_Vatya_HG_Simulated

 

[Ben Dover]

NW Turks and Circassians have the same amount of Steppe

 

[KARABOĞA]

Target: Turkish_Northwest
Distance: 2.1856% / 0.02185643
35.8 Mediterranean
21.6 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
13.4 Satsurblia_CHG
8.6 East_Asia(north)_10KYA_MNG_East_N
6.8 Arabian_Hunter-Gatherer_Simulated
4.0 Western_Iran_10KYA_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
3.4 Northern_Iran_10KYA_IRN_Belt_Cave_Meso_I2312_all_d
2.4 East_Asia(center)_10KYA_CHN_Yumin_N
2.4 South_Baltic_Coast_10KYA_Baltic_BA_HG_Simulated
1.2 East_Asia(center)_10KYA_CHN_Yellow_River_XW-M1R18
0.4 Central_Europe_10KYA_Vatya_HG_Simulated

much more med than steppe still it's not low but med is much higher

 

[Ben Dover]

much more med than steppe still it's not low but med is much higher

so what?

 

[KARABOĞA]

so what?

nothing. as i expected.

 

[Ben Dover]

@goldenhand compare NW Turkish reference with this Ottoman sample

Target: TUR_Ottoman
Distance: 1.7130% / 0.01712966
27.0 East_Asia(north)_10KYA_MNG_East_N
21.6 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
20.6 Mediterranean
7.4 Satsurblia_CHG
6.4 Western_Iran_10KYA_IRN_Tepe_Abdul_Hosein_N
4.6 East_Asia(north)_10KYA_MNG_North_N
3.8 Arabian_Hunter-Gatherer_Simulated
3.2 Western_Siberia_10KYA_RUS_Tyumen_HG
2.6 Pontic_Caspian_Steppe(east)_10KYA_RUS_Samara_HG_R1b
1.0 Northern_Iran_10KYA_IRN_Belt_Cave_Meso_I2312_all_d
0.8 East_Asia(center)_10KYA_CHN_Yellow_River_XW-M1R18
0.6 Southeast_Siberia_10KYA_RUS_Shamanka_N
0.4 Northwest_Africa_10KYA_MAR_Taforalt_TAF011

 

[Ben Dover]

Here are Albanians btw


Target: Albanian
Distance: 2.6917% / 0.02691735
56.8 Mediterranean
26.4 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
6.4 Central_Europe_10KYA_Cotofeni_HG_Simulated
5.6 South_Baltic_Coast_10KYA_Baltic_BA_HG_Simulated
3.8 Satsurblia_CHG
1.0 Arabian_Hunter-Gatherer_Simulated

 

[KARABOĞA]

i guess steppe is more or less same for local greeks from this region but other components is changed

 

[Ben Dover]

i guess steppe is more or less same for local greeks from this region but other components is changed

Do you mean Northern Greeks? I can post their modelings too

 

[KARABOĞA]

Do you mean Northern Greeks? I can post their modelings too

nope i mean comparing of modern day nw anatolian turks and ottoman samples.

 

[KARABOĞA]

Here are Albanians btw


Target: Albanian
Distance: 2.6917% / 0.02691735
56.8 Mediterranean
26.4 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
6.4 Central_Europe_10KYA_Cotofeni_HG_Simulated
5.6 South_Baltic_Coast_10KYA_Baltic_BA_HG_Simulated
3.8 Satsurblia_CHG
1.0 Arabian_Hunter-Gatherer_Simulated

i never thought avar has more steppe than other european populations.

 

[Ben Dover]

@goldenhand Balkan Turks

Target: Turkish_Deliorman
Distance: 2.1757% / 0.02175734
40.0 Mediterranean
31.0 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
7.6 South_Baltic_Coast_10KYA_Baltic_BA_HG_Simulated
5.0 Satsurblia_CHG
4.6 Arabian_Hunter-Gatherer_Simulated
3.4 Northern_Iran_10KYA_IRN_Belt_Cave_Meso_I2312_all_d
3.0 East_Asia(center)_10KYA_CHN_Yumin_N
2.6 Central_Europe_10KYA_Vatya_HG_Simulated
1.8 East_Asia(north)_10KYA_CHN_Amur_River_9200BP
1.0 Central_Europe_10KYA_Mako_HG_Simulated

 

[Ben Dover]

i never thought avar has more steppe than other european populations.

It's not too surprising tbh