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Kurdish faces + their Genetic results . DNA CONFIRMED KURDS THREAD

Kurdquistador

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Kurd from Duhok - Iraq . very Kurdish . he has no gypsy it seems . but i would not rule out small arab admix because of the regions in 23andme he gets . but probably not . in any case he has very typical Kurdish results and he looks UBER Kurdish


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Ben Dover

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Why would you think that he is arab admixed. He is a kurd from northern iraq. His 23andme doesn't show the regions which have arab majority populations. His G25 results and plot are also quite kurdish as you said. Is it because he plots close to geo jews? Am I an arab to you bro? Lel
 

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Why would you think that he is arab admixed. He is a kurd from northern iraq. His 23andme doesn't show the regions which have arab majority populations. His G25 results and plot are also quite kurdish as you said. Is it because he plots close to geo jews? Am I an arab to you bro? Lel

because of the cities of iraq in his list . but probably doesnt mean anything
 

Kurdquistador

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check this thread out that i just opened :

people wrongly imagine Kurds to look like these people lmao



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Kurdquistador

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@fenasi

i saw you saying that this morph that it looks like Kurds . that is not true . Kurds dont look like this . this is supposed to be an Iranid morph but it looks odd and Kurds dont look like this . Iranid doesnt look like this wtf . at least not the Iranid we Kurds have

these morphs are shit in general to begin with but either way as you can see when you look at the 1000000 Kurds posted in our threads Kurds dont look like this morph .

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Kurdquistador

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more than 40 likely 50-55 (i need to count again) DNA CONFIRMED Kurds in this thread . and none of us looks like those exotic Iranians . so what do you make out of this ?

can people please turn on their brain ?

dont you see that my fucking ethnicity has been misportrayed and bullshited about for years ?

dont you see that MAYBE MAAAYBE i am right (which i am) with the gypsy thing i explained 1000 times already ?

dont you see that the wrong anthromyths (often spread by haters) about Kurds are not true and that we do not look like south asians or gypsies . neither like gulf arabs or north africans etc. and that we are also genetically very different from those people ?

is it that hard to admit that you were wrong with your assumptions about Kurds ? ffs .

and before you say "nobody gives a shit about Kurds calm down" . bullshit . if that was the case i wouldnt read nonsense about Kurds so often on various websites .

i would not post so much about Kurds if people wouldnt claim bullshit about us

i really am fed up with this shit
 

Kurdquistador

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just found another kit number with turkish name and surname that scores 13% s-indian on harappa and 15 south asian on Eurogenes K12b

obviously a kurd (or maybe turk but i think he is Kurd + gypsy because of his 19% WCA) with gypsy mix . maybe he has south asian ancestry and is 1/4 indian or pakistani instead but imo that is unlikely and he is probably gypsy admixed

i posted other gypsy mixed kurd kit numbers already before . well this is another one . and then there are still people who dont believe me when i talk about gypsies in Turkey and that there are gypsy mixed Kurds and Turks too like these people from Gedmatch

and guess what ....such people will be on crowd pics of "Kurds" or "Turks" and people will think "oh Kurds and Turks are very dark and look south asian" or whatever .

actual Kurds who dont have gypsy admixed look like the Kurds i posted in this thread and in the gallery threads . and it is even possible that some of the people in the Kurdish crowd pics / videos are gypsy or gypsy mixed . you can not be sure

anyway here is the kit number of the gypsokurd/turk : ZF4753434

run him and see
 
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Kurdquistador

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just found another kit number with turkish name and surname that scores 13% s-indian on harappa and 15 south asian on Eurogenes K12b

obviously a kurd (or maybe turk but i think he is Kurd + gypsy because of his 19% WCA) with gypsy mix . maybe he has south asian ancestry and is 1/4 indian or pakistani instead but imo that is unlikely and he is probably gypsy admixed

i posted other gypsy mixed kurd kit numbers already before . well this is another one . and then there are still people who dont believe me when i talk about gypsies in Turkey and that there are gypsy mixed Kurds and Turks too like these people from Gedmatch

and guess what ....such people will be on crowd pics of "Kurds" or "Turks" and people will think "oh Kurds and Turks are very dark and look south asian" or whatever .

actual Kurds who dont have gypsy admixed look like the Kurds i posted in this thread and in the gallery threads . and it is even possible that some of the people in the Kurdish crowd pics / videos are gypsy or gypsy mixed . you can not be sure

anyway here is the kit number of the gypsokurd/turk : ZF4753434

run him and see


regarding this kit nr

to my pleasure Gedmatch helps me to give you more proof to the gypsy issue . because i have found a new kit number of a guy who is from Turkey (name and surname) and scores 20% west-central asian on Eurogenes K12b and in Turkey the only people who score that much WCA are Kurds including Zaza and some Turkmens maybe if i am not wrong but it is mostly Kurds scoring that high .[/SIZE]

(by the way that WCA component is a component similar to Caucasus . it comes from CHG / Iran N and all northern west asians score a good chunk of it and even Europeans score some . Bulgarians and Romanians can score up to 8% for example . but anyway thats a different topic)

BUT he scores 15 % south asian on Eurogenes K12b too which only south asians (and people who have south asian admix) and gypsies score in significant amounts . as i said before Eurogenes K12b is a great gypsy detector

he also scores 13.08 % s-indian on harappaworld . and 13 % south asian on dodecad k12b . these components of both calculators peak in tribals from india like paniya , pulayar , hakkipiki etc. . and again : only south asians and gypsies or people who are mixed with them will score significant amounts of it

so he must be likely a Kurd (WCA score and from Turkey) with strong gypsy admix . ta ta ta taaaa ...there you go . even DNA / Gedmatch confirms what i said ....we have a lot of gypsies in Turkey including eastern Turkey and the gypsies in eastern Turkey are one of the least known and their numbers are strongly underestimated ....and even though many Kurds and Turks dont mix with gypsies there are as you see enough people who did mix with them and then you see such gypsy mixed people on "turkish crowds" or "kurdish group pictures" and this distorts the image that people have about Kurds and Turks

you might wonder what the average score for actual ethnic Kurds is ? around 2.2 % for both calculators . i calculated it with 40 Kurdish kit numbers including my own . these 40 Kurdish kit numbers i have the pics of the people too . DNA confirmed Kurds with faces basically . you can see most (i didnt post all yet) in this thread :




2.2 % !!!! which is basically nothing . other northern west asians also are around that or slightly less . even some europeans will get 1-2 % . Balkan gypsies get around 25 % on average . most south asian groups get even way more of course


anyway here is the kit number of the new gypsy mixed Kurd : ZF4753434

run him on Gedmatch and see yourself . but i will post some of his results below

by the way i have several other gypsy mixed Kurdish and Turkish kit numbers . this guy is just one of them . and as i said before already i even met a 1/4 gypsy 3/4 Kurdish guy on reddit and talked to him . just lol

anyway here some of his results .



name is Latif Gezer . from Turkey obviously



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Eurogenes K12b

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Harappaworld

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Kurdquistador

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Zaza Kurd from Bingöl province . i only post zaza Kurds if they see themselves as Kurdish like this man . there are Zaza who dont see themselves as Kurds and i respect that too


Eurogenes K12b


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Dodecad K12b

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Eurogenes K13

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Puntdnal K15

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Harappaworld

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he gets Georgian and Abkhasian + Kurdish Jewish / Iranian Jewish instead of Lezgin / Chechen + Kurdish Jewish

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% Georgian + 43.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.04
2 56.3% Georgian + 43.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.5

3 54% Abhkasian + 46% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.52


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Kurdquistador

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bump due to this discussion :



so yeah ....in this thread here i post Kurdish faces together with their gedmatch or other genetic results .

the 10000000 Kurds that i posted already should be enough to know what Kurds look like and to know that i am portraying Kurds correctly . but i went even one step further and post Kurdish faces together with genetic results . YOU CAN NOT DO MORE THAN THIS TO PORTRAY YOUR ETHNICITY ! for fucks sake man .....seriously ....give me a break already

Karaboga said this Iranian below is not even atypical for Kurds and that he can pass as atypical Turkish too . which is bullshit

which of the about 50 - 55 Kurds in this thread whose faces i posted together with their genetic results for example looks like this Iranian who Karaboga said "not even atypical as Kurdish and can pass as Turkish too"

not even 1 out of us 50 - 55 Kurds who are DNA CONFIRMED KURDS in this thread look like this guy . and Turkish is even more nonsense for him



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Kurdquistador

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i thought i might post it here too since it is relevant

as you can see in this thread many of us get modelled as Kurdish Jewish or Iranian Jewish or Assyrian (sometimes also Armenian or Georgian Jewish )


+ Lezgin / Chechen / Adygei etc.



we Kurds are a mix of native mediterraneans from asia minor and zagros area + invaders from central asia who were something like a mix of Lezgins and Yagnobi Tajiks . they probably brought us our muh Iranic language and they were steppe rich , but those people from central asia are themselves mostly native northern west asian in heritage . it was a migration from northern west asia to central asia (mixing with steppe people) and then back migration to northern west asia . it is like A ----- B ------back to A

you can take Kurdish Jews as the native mediterranean and then mix Lezgin and Yagnobi and then mix it with Kurdish Jew

thats the main difference between us and our jews . we are mixed with those steppe people . thats also why on many calculators we get modelled as Kurdish Jew / Iranian Jew / Assyrian / sometimes Georgian Jew / sometimes Armenian + Lezgin / Chechen / Yagnobi / Adygei


Distance to: Kurdish

0.05451862 Kurdish_Jew
0.08105989 Lezgin_Yagnobi_mixed



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Ben Dover

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Kurds are more like 80% Geo Jew/West Armenian + 20% Tajik rather than 60% Geo Jew/West Armenian + 40% Lezgin or whatever. It doesn't even make sense for Kurds to have that much Lezgin shift compared to Geo Jews and some Armenians because that way they would have more CHG than both Geo Jews and Armenians less Iran_N than both because Lezgins have less Iran_N than Geo Jews and Armenians and far less ANF than both. Those mixed modes don't make a ton of sense
 

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And again even you have Kurds from Iran who are already very similar to Iranian Jews (obviously iranian Kurds have less Natufian and more EHG but still quite similar) not even Geo Jews and Armenians
 

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new Kurdish guy for this thread


Eurogenes K12b


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Eurogenes K13

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Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurdish +25% Kurdish_Jewish +25% Ossetian @ 4.691882



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Kurdquistador

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young Kurdish woman .

i am fairly sure that the person on the pic is the kit owner however i am not like 1000000% sure . but most likely she is . what i know for sure is that the kit owner / kit number is fully Kurdish

if anybody wonders : yes her results are very Kurdish . it is just that her west-central asian is on the lower end of what is normal for Kurds . but still within Kurdish range comfortably . and if you wonder why on some calcs she is a bit distant to Kurdish references . the reason is that some calcs dont have accurate Kurdish references thats why a lot of Kurds get things like 80% Kurdish + 20% south Italian (like me) or 90% Kurdish + 10% Bulgarian or whatever . i am guessing many of the Kurdish references are from very south / east Kurdish regions



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K13 she gets modelled like this like many Kurds do

54.7% Iranian_Jewish + 45.3% Kumyk @ 3.5

71.4% Assyrian + 28.6% Tabassaran @ 3.43

52% Adygei + 48% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.66

63.9% Iranian_Jewish + 36.1% Chechen @ 3.76

52.5% Lebanese_Druze + 47.5% Chechen @ 3.82

69.6% Assyrian + 30.4% Lezgin @ 3.84

50.1% Lebanese_Christian + 49.9% Lezgin @ 3.86

66.1% Iranian_Jewish + 33.9% Tabassaran @ 3.86

61.1% Assyrian + 38.9% Kumyk @ 3.94


63.8% Iranian_Jewish + 36.2% Lezgin @ 3.99

52.6% Lebanese_Christian + 47.4% Tabassaran @ 4.03

69.9% Assyrian + 30.1% Chechen @ 4.06


52.4% Lebanese_Druze + 47.6% Lezgin @ 4.15



on Puntdnal K15 she gets modelled like this :



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lezgin +50% Palestinian @ 3.921952

on G25 we Kurds also can be modelled as roughly half Palestinian Christian + rouhgly half Lezgin . as i showed before




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Kurdquistador

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man ....i wish i would have done these Kurdish galleries with 100000 pics and videos and the face + result threads long ago on Anthroscape . i was in a weird mental state back then and was not able to function properly unlike now .

it would have been very important back then because of all the trolls and haters especially from curry lands . they trolled and shitposted in pretty much any west asian thread especially when it came to Kurds . fucking pieces of shits . i bet many of them have lurked here though and got humbled after seeing reality ...seeing how Kurds look and how we score genetically . i hope so at least . and back then i didnt know that we have gypsies lol . let alone so many gypsies and mixed people . i had no clue . that shows how unknown and hidden our gypsies are

but a good amount will still reject reality and will just not give me credit out of spite . they will try to hold on on their false beliefs . but you know what ? the reality is OBVIOUSLY on my side . suck it up . may you eat my shit hehehe
 
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