Maj313
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That’s a minority term lol, majority of people don’t subscribe to it - like most menas and regular people but who knows, if you put some effort then that term might catch on
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Kurdish faces + their Genetic results . DNA CONFIRMED KURDS THREAD
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Come to think of it, it does sound a lil bit kinky but not in a Russian way
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No man, it is and always will be a BS term no matter what. Enough people use it in their lexicon as it is
Maj313
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Well Good luck promoting it, it’s still not mainstream
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who said anything promoting it. quite the contrary actually. but whatever. people are assholes either way
Kurdish man from Van province
Eurogenes K12b
Dodecad K12b
Eurogenes K15
Puntdnal K15
and like many Kurds he also gets modelled like this :
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Adygei +50% Iranian_Jewish @ 5.567585
Eurogenes K12b
Dodecad K12b
Eurogenes K15
Puntdnal K15
and like many Kurds he also gets modelled like this :
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Adygei +50% Iranian_Jewish @ 5.567585
Kurdish guy from Malatya province
Eurogenes K12b
Dodecad K12b
Eurogenes K15
Puntdnal K15
and he also :
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian_Jewish +50% Ossetian @ 3.055953
Eurogenes K12b
Dodecad K12b
Eurogenes K15
Puntdnal K15
and he also :
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian_Jewish +50% Ossetian @ 3.055953
i posted this in the Kurdish gallery thread . might as well post it here too :
as you know or should know by now we Kurds are one of the most darkwashed and one of the most misportrayed people in forums . with many dumb and wrong anthromyths that stick on us
and as you should know by now there are many gypsies in Kurdish regions . i made a thread about it and several posts where i shared information about it . and even though many Kurds dont mix with gypsies some certainly do / did and their offspring will often just claim they are Kurdish . like that 3/4 Kurdish 1/4 gypsy guy i met on another site and talked to .....in his threads he just said he is Kurdish . and on top of that many of our gypsies will larp as Kurds . and they will be on many crowd pics of Kurds too etc. etc. ....we already talked about it and that is one of the reasons why there is a misconception about how we Kurds look and what we actually are
now i want to give you another big reason why people think of Kurds as exotic
suntan + bad lightning + clothes + mustaches or beards . especially in middle aged and older men . many Kurds are tanned from the sun . we inhabit the east mediterranean regions . where sunlight is a thing you know ...lol
let me show you something as an example
this is the turkish actor Şener Şen . I love the guy . I have grown up with his movies and he is a great actor and also seems to be a good person too
his homeprovince is Adana
now look how much clothes , suntan , bad lightning , and beard makes a difference
on these photos he is playing a village head/chief in "muh eastern turkey"
notice the clothes and headwear . notice how the lightning is bad on the pics . notice how suntanned he seems to be likely from working in the hot area where they make the movie . notice his mustache etc. etc.
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NOW ...
LOOK AT HIM AGAIN ....with no beard , no tan , good lightning . other clothes
this makes a big difference
many kurdish men have mustaches . many kurds are suntanned . and many of the pics of Kurds trolls like to post have bad lightning . also there are not only kurds living in east/southeast turkey but other ethnicities aswell who will say they are Kurdish when they mixed or not even Kurdish at all (think of ibrahim tatlises who has an arab father and a dom gypsy mother as an example ...) . as you can see with the actor above it is totally useless to take tanned men with mustaches and ethnic clothing to represent an ethnicity
and also : taking the most exotic iraqi kurds to represent us is similar as if I would take the most exotic cypriots to represent Greeks , the most atypical sicilian or calabrian to represent italians , the most atypical canarians etc. to represent spaniiards . I dont know why we kurds are never "protected" from this bullshit and people love to do that so much ..
as you know or should know by now we Kurds are one of the most darkwashed and one of the most misportrayed people in forums . with many dumb and wrong anthromyths that stick on us
and as you should know by now there are many gypsies in Kurdish regions . i made a thread about it and several posts where i shared information about it . and even though many Kurds dont mix with gypsies some certainly do / did and their offspring will often just claim they are Kurdish . like that 3/4 Kurdish 1/4 gypsy guy i met on another site and talked to .....in his threads he just said he is Kurdish . and on top of that many of our gypsies will larp as Kurds . and they will be on many crowd pics of Kurds too etc. etc. ....we already talked about it and that is one of the reasons why there is a misconception about how we Kurds look and what we actually are
now i want to give you another big reason why people think of Kurds as exotic
suntan + bad lightning + clothes + mustaches or beards . especially in middle aged and older men . many Kurds are tanned from the sun . we inhabit the east mediterranean regions . where sunlight is a thing you know ...lol
let me show you something as an example
this is the turkish actor Şener Şen . I love the guy . I have grown up with his movies and he is a great actor and also seems to be a good person too
his homeprovince is Adana
now look how much clothes , suntan , bad lightning , and beard makes a difference
on these photos he is playing a village head/chief in "muh eastern turkey"
notice the clothes and headwear . notice how the lightning is bad on the pics . notice how suntanned he seems to be likely from working in the hot area where they make the movie . notice his mustache etc. etc.
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NOW ...
LOOK AT HIM AGAIN ....with no beard , no tan , good lightning . other clothes
this makes a big difference
many kurdish men have mustaches . many kurds are suntanned . and many of the pics of Kurds trolls like to post have bad lightning . also there are not only kurds living in east/southeast turkey but other ethnicities aswell who will say they are Kurdish when they mixed or not even Kurdish at all (think of ibrahim tatlises who has an arab father and a dom gypsy mother as an example ...) . as you can see with the actor above it is totally useless to take tanned men with mustaches and ethnic clothing to represent an ethnicity
and also : taking the most exotic iraqi kurds to represent us is similar as if I would take the most exotic cypriots to represent Greeks , the most atypical sicilian or calabrian to represent italians , the most atypical canarians etc. to represent spaniiards . I dont know why we kurds are never "protected" from this bullshit and people love to do that so much ..
Kurdish dude
Eurogenes K 13
Harrappaworld
Eurogenes K12b
Dodecad K12b
Eurogenes K15
Puntdnal K15
and like many of us Kurds he also gets modelled like this :
68% Iranian_Jewish + 32% North_Ossetian @ 4.09
67.2% Kurdish_Jewish + 32.8% Lezgin @ 4.19
68.8% Iranian_Jewish + 31.2% Chechen @ 3.54
68.5% Iranian_Jewish + 31.5% Lezgin @ 3.55
67% Iranian_Jewish + 33% Lezgin @ 3.98
69.2% Iranian_Jewish + 30.8% Tabassaran @ 4.1
70% Iranian_Jewish + 30% Chechen @ 4.25
62.1% Iranian_Jewish + 37.9% Kumyk @ 4.36
Harrappaworld :
82.9% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 17.1% urkarah (xing) @ 1.62
80.2% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 19.8% stalskoe (xing) @ 1.78
81.3% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 18.7% lezgin (behar) @ 1.91
65% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 35% stalskoe (xing) @ 2.37
78.5% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 21.5% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 2.62
82.6% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 17.4% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 2.63
69.5% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 30.5% urkarah (xing) @ 2.88
61.1% iraq-jew (behar) + 38.9% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.18
Eurogenes K 13
Harrappaworld
Eurogenes K12b
Dodecad K12b
Eurogenes K15
Puntdnal K15
and like many of us Kurds he also gets modelled like this :
68% Iranian_Jewish + 32% North_Ossetian @ 4.09
67.2% Kurdish_Jewish + 32.8% Lezgin @ 4.19
68.8% Iranian_Jewish + 31.2% Chechen @ 3.54
68.5% Iranian_Jewish + 31.5% Lezgin @ 3.55
67% Iranian_Jewish + 33% Lezgin @ 3.98
69.2% Iranian_Jewish + 30.8% Tabassaran @ 4.1
70% Iranian_Jewish + 30% Chechen @ 4.25
62.1% Iranian_Jewish + 37.9% Kumyk @ 4.36
Harrappaworld :
82.9% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 17.1% urkarah (xing) @ 1.62
80.2% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 19.8% stalskoe (xing) @ 1.78
81.3% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 18.7% lezgin (behar) @ 1.91
65% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 35% stalskoe (xing) @ 2.37
78.5% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 21.5% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 2.62
82.6% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 17.4% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 2.63
69.5% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 30.5% urkarah (xing) @ 2.88
61.1% iraq-jew (behar) + 38.9% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.18
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@separ could you maybe take your time to run yourself through dodecad k10a calculator via visiting this link. But at first you might have to create an account if you are not registered on DNAGENICS already
Maj313
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Pan-Roman empire phenotype
ok so i ran all of us Kurds whose gedmatch results i have posted in this thread through Harrappaworld to calculate our average S-Indian score
except 1 man because i couldnt find his kit number quickly . would need to dig it up on pms
the average s-indian score for us is : 2.146 . lets round it to 2.15 lel
here are all the scores if you are interested :
1.98
2.98
2.16
2.11
1.28
2.41
2.14
3.46
2.81
1.99
2.88
2.78
2.5
1.94
1.92
2.47
2.43
2.15
2.9
1.76
1.23
1.4
1.9
1.54
2.36
4.55
1.2
1.46
3.19
1.75
1.49
0.79
1.73
1.98
0.73
3.32
1.75
harrappaworld is one of the best calculators to determine south asian admix . the s.indian component
and as you see yet again we Kurds have almost none . average score is 2.15
of course 0.00 would have been best (no offense . i just dont like the component) but 2.15 is a joke ..... very very small . and we have it from ancient populations who picked it up at some point . so not only is our score very small but it is also ancient . and there are many north caucasians and even some europeans (without gypsy mix) who will score that much or almost as much ....
and like i said in the thread of this man who scores 6.9 % when someone scores above 5-6% the chance to look south asian shifted increases DRAMATICALLY ...the higher the score the more . but i notice that around 5% or maybe 6% is the line and when that is crossed the possibility is highly increased . while below 5% it will have no effect most of the time .
this is the man with 6.9 % . he is some sort of iranian . could be even iranian kurd because i found him by one to many search using a kurdish kit . but i am not sure what he is i only know he is from iran
guessify and passify this man
that is one of the reasons why there are a decent amount of iranians who will look south asian - oid . even if many iranians dont look south asian-oid either and look normal NWA
but there are a decent amount of iranians who score well above 5% . and i am not even talking about bandaris and balochs . but persians who score 8% minimum and even up to 14% !!!!! and 10% is a very typical and normal score for persians from east Iran
we Kurds are NOT like that as you see . our average score is around 2.15 %
so make out of this what you want . but it is a reason why there are persians like these :
all 3 men are Iranians :
and just to show you how exotic the s.indian component is :
these 3 people all score 70 - 74 s.indian :
regarding this post of mine from the previous page i am quoting . please read that post
and i want to talk a little more about Iranians
as i said i calculated the average s-indian score of every Kurd in this thread whose gedmatch results i posted . except one because i couldnt find the kit quickly . and i didnt include the last dude i posted today since i didnt found him yet when i calculated the average but he scores only 1.59 too . 2.15 was the average score . i calculated it new including the last dude in it :
average s-indian score for us Kurds is = 2.13 ...lel
so as you see we Kurds have almost none of it . just for comparison .....even balochs and brahuis who are one of the most caucasoid and one of the lightest groups of south asia (if you include them as south asian . i dont really . to me they are a unique people who are neither west nor south asian . but if i had to decide they are south asian more than west asian oveall) on average score minimum 10 - 12 and some even up to 17-19 range . balkan gypsies score around 25 on average . punjabis 30 - 35 . sri lankans 60 - 65 . and this component peaks in tribals of south india like the paniya , pulliyar , hakki pikki etc.
just look at the 3 people in the quoted post who score 70 - 74 . the highest scores we have seen so far anybody scoring (the girl = 74 )
now . : there are a decent amount of Iranians that will score well over 5% . like 8 9 10 11 even 14 % . and i dont mean bandaris or balochs but fucking persians . for east persians 10% is very normal i am not even only talking about them but i mean central / north / west persians .
i will give you some iranian kits who score pretty high s.indian .
This is a study sample of a sayyed persian from Shiraz: Kit : ML4898970 - 11.51 s- indian . wtf . just wtf
random Iranian man : A312332 - 8.34 s-indian
this kit number is apperently persian from yazd . so i have been told : MQ8579725 - 8.06 s.indian
iranian from khorasan : HE9674205 . 10.06 s-indian
random iranian man : M253309 . 7.42 s-indian
iranian man with the surname kermani so i am guessing he is from kerman ? : A800017 . 9.18 s-indian
this kit is apperently shirazi iranian . it was listed below "shirazis" : AN8640062 . 8.64 s-indian
this kit i was given in a list of "just persians in general" : SL5685335 - 10.2 s-indian
and member ImHere posted a persian from teheran in the Eurogenes K12b thread with freaking 14% south asian . and the south asian component there is similar to the s-indian on harrapaworld and shows actual south asian . 14% for a persian is huuuuge .
i am not saying these Iranians are the typical iranian . nope . but there are a decent amount of persians scoring elevated s-indian .
did i already mention that the average score for us Kurds is 2.13 ? lol ....
you will NEVER EVER find a Kurd with scores such as these persian kits i just gave you . it is impossible . if you ever should see a "kurd" scoring that then be 1000% sure he/she is gypsy or mixed with gypsy / south asian .
regarding iranians it is not a shocker though . Iran is a big big country
but we Kurds are not like that . we (especially Turkey Kurds) seem to have been "protected" from the ranjeet through our mountains
that is one of the reasons why there are iranians who look south asian-oid .
and that is one of the reasons why this bullshit " KuRdZ aNd PeRzIaNz" is incorrect . this fact that we Kurds have close to zero s-indian and that the typical persian is around 5-6 s-indian and the fact that a significant amount of persians are well above 5% some even above 10% is reason alone to not put us together like nothing . because by doing so you leave such important things out and just throw us together as if we are exactly the same
and as you know many south asians are obsessed with Iran and Iranians . and with us Kurds too smh . (i will not discuss this btw. . i have already talked about it often before in other threads and even posted examples) .
i am against south asians obsessing over Iranians but fuck ....at least you can say that some iranians are curry-oid . but we Kurds are not like that . so please unstick and leave us alone for good
by the way i forgot to add that (as i said in the quoted post) it seems that when you exceed around 5% s-indian that the likelyhood of looking south asian shifted increases . and that below 5% it will have no effect on vast majority of people . i gave the iranian man with 6.9 as example with his pics .
from my analysis 5%+ and the chance is that you can look south asian influenced is increased
10%+ and the likelyhood that it will effect your looks is dramatically increased
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it is very annoying that there are people including even forum friends who dont believe me regarding our gypsies .
they seem to think that when there is a "dark kurd" that i will just brand them as gypsy and deny them . which is not true at all . in fact i have posted many dark Kurds and when a member posted a dark Kurd i said he looks very Kurdish
but if someone is gypsy mixed he/she is gypsy mixed . if someone is gypsy he/she is gypsy . what do you want me to do ? call them Kurdish ? i will not
i already gave sources that say that gypsies in Kurdish regions are one of the most unknown gypsies and that they numbers are highly underestimated . there are many gypsies in Turkey that is already known (or should be known by now) but eastern Turkey also has many . according to a politician who i posted a video of lately (video got taken down unfortunately) there are millions of gypsies in central and east turkey
and i often told you already that i have talked to a guy on another site who is 3/4 Kurdish and 1/4 gypsy
and now let me give you a half Romani Gypsy half Kurdish gedmatch kit number : H827321 . 11.87 s-indian harrappaworld
and the "romanian_b" in harrappaworld is balkan gypsy reference and this is how she gets modelled there accurately :
and today i found a kit number that is new on gedmatch who seems to be half gypsy and half either Kurdish or eastern / central Turkish or something else from the area
kit nr. : LQ8586275 . 11.3 s-indian
him :
but yeah i am hallucinating right ? just lol .....they are not a rarity . so it is not even hard to meet them online and to find kit numbers like this .
and this guy doesnt even look that much gypsy influenced lookwise . now imagine those dom gypsy mixed "Kurds" who look gypsoid . imagine how many full gypsies will look and will claim they are Kurds
but yes i am wrong right ? no matter what .
they seem to think that when there is a "dark kurd" that i will just brand them as gypsy and deny them . which is not true at all . in fact i have posted many dark Kurds and when a member posted a dark Kurd i said he looks very Kurdish
but if someone is gypsy mixed he/she is gypsy mixed . if someone is gypsy he/she is gypsy . what do you want me to do ? call them Kurdish ? i will not
i already gave sources that say that gypsies in Kurdish regions are one of the most unknown gypsies and that they numbers are highly underestimated . there are many gypsies in Turkey that is already known (or should be known by now) but eastern Turkey also has many . according to a politician who i posted a video of lately (video got taken down unfortunately) there are millions of gypsies in central and east turkey
and i often told you already that i have talked to a guy on another site who is 3/4 Kurdish and 1/4 gypsy
and now let me give you a half Romani Gypsy half Kurdish gedmatch kit number : H827321 . 11.87 s-indian harrappaworld
and the "romanian_b" in harrappaworld is balkan gypsy reference and this is how she gets modelled there accurately :
53.8% | romanian-b (behar) | + | 46.2% | kurd (harappa) | @ | 3.54 |
and today i found a kit number that is new on gedmatch who seems to be half gypsy and half either Kurdish or eastern / central Turkish or something else from the area
kit nr. : LQ8586275 . 11.3 s-indian
# | Primary Population (source) | Secondary Population (source) | Distance | |||||
1 | 54.4% | kurd (yunusbayev) | + | 45.6% | romanian-b (behar) | @ | 3.89 |
him :
but yeah i am hallucinating right ? just lol .....they are not a rarity . so it is not even hard to meet them online and to find kit numbers like this .
and this guy doesnt even look that much gypsy influenced lookwise . now imagine those dom gypsy mixed "Kurds" who look gypsoid . imagine how many full gypsies will look and will claim they are Kurds
but yes i am wrong right ? no matter what .
Zaza man from Tunceli / Dersim province . he might also be part Kurmanji because he is a translator for zazaki , kurmanji , and turkish . so he can speak kurmanji . but i have no specific info about him being part Kurmanji. maybe he just learned kurmanji despite not being one
Eurogenes K 13
Harrappaworld
Eurogenes K12b
Dodecad K12b
Eurogenes K15
Puntdnal K15
Eurogenes K 13
Harrappaworld
Eurogenes K12b
Dodecad K12b
Eurogenes K15
Puntdnal K15