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Kurdish faces + their Genetic results . DNA CONFIRMED KURDS THREAD

Kurdquistador

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ok so far i have already posted many Kurdish faces + their genetic results in this thread

what i now would like to do is to ask you to look at our faces again and then compare with our gypsies from Kurdish regions

some people (even forum friends) still dont believe me that we have many gypsies in Turkey INCLUDING Kurdish regions . and our gypsies in Kurdish provinces are not well known by the world and the numbers are highly underestimated

i also watched a docu where a worker in the gypsy community (i think he was turk or kurd) in Diyarbakir province said that many gypsies larp as Kurdish or Turkish

many Kurds dont mix with gypsies but some certainly did and do . on youtube i was even attacked by other Kurds for saying that Dom (a term for our gypsies) are not Kurds . they said they are Kurds ....but they are not . wtf . thats a fact . they are gypsies not Kurds . they brought arguments like "they live with us" or "they speak very well Kurdish" . missing the point entirely

on another site i met a dude who is 3/4 Kurdish and 1/4 gypsy (talked to him) .

i also have a gedmatch kit number of a half gypsy half Kurdish person

so you can be sure that many if not most of those highly exotic "Kurdish" individuals that trolls like to post or that you might see on dubious pics on google are actually either mixed with gypsy , or even full gypsy , or even other ethnicities

look at this woman for example . she is on a Kurdish rally / festival and has Kurdish flag colors around her neck . if you think that she is actually ethnic Kurd and not gypsy then you are just a fucking imbecile . no offense




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by the way i found more information about our gypsies

there was a video of a politician talking about gypsies on our lands and according to this politician there are apperently (OTHER THAN ROMANI) ....8 MILLION Abdal and Dom gypsies in Turkey (central and east / southeast turkey mainly) . and there might be even more


unfortunately the video is taken down .....i shared it in the classify our gypsies thread some months ago

i will try to look if the video has been reuploaded


but anyway . here are some pics of our gypsies .

in my experience being in anthroforums since around 10 years many people when they imagine Kurds in their mind they have a mix of iraqi arab and these gypsies in mind . or iraqi + punjabi mix with some armenian influence . just fucking lol . what a bullshit




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look at the instrument . that instrument is played mostly by gypsies . look at the pic below it says "kurdish" . so when people see that video they think this guy is a kurd ? no surprise that some people have kurds as a south asianoid looking people in mind lol

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Kurdquistador

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like i said many Kurds dont mix with gypsies

many Kurds even discriminate against gypsies . i have read that in a Kurdish province the gypsies who are also earthquake victims who have to be in camps now that they dont receive much help from Kurds there because they are gypsies . and i was very disappointed when i read that . yes you read right ....i am against discrimination . i dont want them to suffer and i want them to receive the same help as anybody does . and i am highly disappointed by the Kurds there . Kurdish people are usually kind hearted people who will help anybody who is in need . and also very hospitable people . when i saw that the gypsies dont get enough help i felt disgusted

i am against Kurds mixing with gypsies and in general i dont like gypsies yes . but that doesnt mean that there are not good gypsies nor does it mean that i want these people to suffer or anything . they are human beings like you and me

but i am against my ethnicity becoming something that it is not by mixing with / assimilating gypsies for example . and i am against the mispotrayings and also darkwashing of Kurds online which have been done by idiots for many years now and is still done

and even though many Kurds dont mix with gypsies some certainly did and do and have assimilated them


heck you even have celebrities who are not Kurdish but say they are Kurdish and are known as Kurdish


ibrahim tatlises is one of the most famous singers / actors in Turkey . he claims to be Kurdish and is thrown around and known as Kurdish . but guess what ...his father is arab and his mother was Dom Gypsy . just LOL ....facepalm . (he also doesnt look Kurdish btw. . which you should be able to see and agree on by now after seein all the thousands of Kurds i posted including in this thread even with genetic results )

his mother was gypsy apperently

in the video below the man on left is from malatya and i dont know if he is a Kurd or Turk . he interviews this gypsy man on right about dom gypsies .....the man gives a lot of information about doms and he says ibrahim tatlises mother was a dom . the gypsy man is very knowledged and he knows who is gypsy and who is not

so ibrahim tatlises is half arab half gypsy . so not Kurdish at all if we believe the man in tthe video and i do believe him

his father could be iraqi kurd instead of arab maybe ....i read some say that . but i doubt it . either way the fact that ibo gets labeled as Kurdish everywhere and even gets taken as stereotypical Kurd by people is just a fucking joke .

he also says that many of the guys in the background playing music in ibrahim tatlises tv shows are romani and dom gypsies


so yeah ibrahim tatlises is NOT Kurdish . he is half arab half gypsy . and he does NOT look Kurdish . i dont think he looks gypsy either though . to me he looks like an iraqi arab with some turanoid influence and some anatolian influence . but he does not look Kurdish . just compare him to the dna confirmed Kurds in this thread for example

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the gypsy man in the video also says that even a province like Malatya (most dom gypsies are rather in southeast Turkey in provinces like Mardin , Urfa etc. . but they are also in other Kurdish provinces . they are in almost every province in Turkey) is "full with doms " in his own words . but my province Tunceli / Dersim has very little gypsies .

and guess what ? you wont find many uber exotic or gypsoid individuals among us as you do among "Kurds" in most other provinces

Dersim / Tunceli people :





my people are fucking dumbasses . Turkey is a mongrel country i am telling you . people who are gypsy mixed or gypsies who larp as turks or kurds ....and nobody saying anything . what a joke

turks kurds laz circassian albanian bosniak .....these are the core people of turkey . and i dont see people who are mixed within these as "mongrels" (by the way i am using this word partially as joke lol . i dont mean it derogatory) .....but you cant even be sure about peoples origins anymore ....ibrahim tatlises is the best example lel

he says it at 26:39 listen from 26:39 to 27:05



 

Kurdquistador

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Kurdish woman .

her west-central-asian score of almost 18% in Eurogenes K12b and the fact that she said in a post about this Kurdish woman that i made a thread of before :



that she is "proud of her as a Kurdish woman" .....confirms for me that she is Kurdish ....however she scores a little odd in other calcs . but she is definitely Kurdish no doubt







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Dodecad K12b

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Eurogenes K15

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Puntdnal K15

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57.3% Iranian_Jewish + 42.7% Kumyk @ 4.08

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian_Jewish +50% Kumyk @ 4.802632


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Chechen +50% Iraqi_Jew @ 3.376073





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Kurdquistador

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young Kurdish dude

he is probably (at least partially) from Tunceli / Dersim province because his e-mail adress has the number 62 on it and the number 62 is the code number for our province

unfortunately i only have 2 pics of him and on one he is a kid and the other pic is not good . if i find more i will post





Eurogenes K12b

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Dodecad K12b

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Eurogenes K15

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Puntdnal K15

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and like many Kurds he also gets modelled like :

72.9% Armenian + 27.1% Kumyk @ 3.3
69% Assyrian + 31% Tabassaran @ 5.01
60.3% Kurdish_Jewish + 39.7% Tabassaran @ 5.06



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Kurdquistador

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woman from Divriği - Sivas province .

that town has a significant Alevi Kurdish minority . i didnt read anything about being Kurdish on her profile but she looks typical Kurdish and her genetic results are very Kurdish . so i dont think she can be anything else other than Kurdish . if she was turkish or had big turkish admix she would score east eurasian but she scores almost none at all


i didnt want to post her only because i didnt have THE final indication that she is Kurdish (like the woman on the previous page for example who said "as a Kurdish woman" etc) . because trolls and pieces of shits are already hating on me and accusing me of shit and are after me all the time ....so i didnt want to post her because i would like to read something about her saying she is Kurdish so it would be bullet proof .

however there is no reason for paranoia either . she can not be anything else other than Kurdish with these results and she looks Kurdish and the town where she is from has a significant Kurdish minority

what else is she supposed to be ? tanzanian ?






Eurogenes K12b

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Dodecad K12b

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Eurogenes K15

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Puntdnal K15

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and as often :

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance

59.7% Iranian_Jewish + 40.3% Chechen @ 3.87

50.9% Kumyk + 49.1% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.11

55.6% Iranian_Jewish + 44.4% Adygei @ 4.31

56.5% Iranian_Jewish + 43.5% Lezgin @ 4.41

57.4% Iranian_Jewish + 42.6% Kabardin @ 4.44

53.3% Kumyk + 46.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.94


57.8% Kurdish_Jewish + 42.2% Chechen @ 4.94



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pic when she was a kid (she is on the left i think) with her mom and sister (?)

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Kurdquistador

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i have to say something more about the gypsies

because i found gedmatch kit numbers with turkish surnames and the e-mail adress / hoster of the kits has turkish name and surname . and the kit numbers seem to be Kurdish + Gypsy mixes .

i already told you before that i met and talked to a 3/4 Kurd + 1/4 gypsy guy on another site . and i also told you that i have a gedmatch kit number that is half Kurdish half gypsy

and now i found these kit numbers who seem to be Kurdish + gypsy mix . could also be Turkish + gypsy mix . one of the 2 for sure

they get 8.5 and 6.7 s.indian on harrappaworld

and one of them gets modelled like this : ("romanian b " is balkan gypsy reference btw. )

67.5% kurd (harappa) + 32.5% romanian-b (behar) @ 4.94


and they score even more south asian in Eurogenes K12b . Eurogenes K12b is the best gypsy detector calculator as i said many times

click here on the spoiler to see their Eurogenes K12b results

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so much for not believing me about the gypsy things i say ......as if i am making shit up . guys and gals .....there are a lot of gypsies in Turkey including east / southeast Turkey . and their numbers are underestimated as fuck . in fact our gypsies in east / southeast Turkey are one of the least known and


here is a site that is in english language but the page doesnt exist anymore : http://www.domresearchcenter.com/news/turkey/marsh.html

but i saved some of it . it said :


"The Domari communities of eastern Turkey, like those elsewhere in the region, are one of the least known of all the Gypsy communities in the world. Largely absent from research carried out amongst Gypsy groups in the field of Romani Studies, the Dom of eastern Turkey have remained "hidden" from the view of the scholars and academics in the West since the letters of American missionaries in the late nineteenth century described in brief details their presence in these lands"


" In brief, the Dom of eastern Turkey are the most invisible of all the Gypsy groups."


According to ERRC's Turkey profile (2011-2012) , "the majority of Roma live in Western Anatolia, Thrace, in the Marmara region and the Aegean Sea region while the Dom and Lom groups mostly live in South Eastern and Eastern Turkey". Almost all the Roma in Turkey are Muslims.

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many Kurds dont mix wiht gypsies but some certainly do / did . i have even been attacked by "Kurds" on youtube when i said that the dom are not Kurdish but gypsies . they said they are Kurds hahaha xD my people are relaly stupid . the dom are NOT Kurds of course


these 2 kit numbers are probably Kurdish + Romani gypsy though and not Dom (could be aswell though ) .


compare their results to us ethnic Kurds i posted in this thread . our south asian score for Eurogenes K12b and Harrapaworld is around 2.5 %
 

Kurdquistador

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another thing ....

1. so as you know i have posted 10000000 Kurds in the Kurdish gallery thread . including big crowd pics and videos of festivals etc. with many many Kurds in them themselves . like i already said a thousand times . but i cant emphasize enough on it



2. i did not cherrypick those 1000000000 Kurds . even though trolls and cockroaches love to say that about me because they dont like what they are seeing . they dont like that we dont look the way they would like us to . and that we dont look the way they thought Kurds look like . and because they just dislike me for whatever reason too . just lol at calling a man who posted a million of his people a cherrypicker ....crazy



3. now i went even further and even post Kurdish faces PLUS THEIR GENETIC RESULTS .......as if the million Kurds i posted was not enough lol . now this thread with the genetic results along with the faces 100% seals the deal for good . there is no ifs and buts anymore you can not doubt me at all anymore . at this point if you do you will just look pathetic and idiotic



and now the most important point for this thread :

4.

as you see the Kurds i have posted in this DNA confirmed Kurds thread together with their results look EXACTLY like the thousands of Kurds i posted in the Kurdish gallery thread . what i mean is as you see the Kurds in this thread fit perfectly together with all the Kurds i have posted before in the other thread . it is not that you can say "oh look at this. the DNA confirmed Kurds look different from the main gallery Kurds . he must have cherrypicked the Kurds in the main gallery and once a Kurdish face is supplemented with genetic results his cherrypicking will come out " .

that is not the case at all . i did not cherrypick . as you see the Kurdish faces + genetic results PERFECTLY fit / look like the 1000000 Kurds i posted . as you see the DNA confirmed Kurds actually confirm very strongly that the thousands of Kurds from the main gallery ARE how Kurds look like . even though there was no need for this DNA conrimed thread to begin with because it is not like i posted only 50 or even 100 Kurds in the main gallery but THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of Kurds . so it was already enough to show how Kurds look

but it is nice that this DNA confirmed Kurds thread actually is the cherry on top of the Ice Cream and 100000% supplement the Kurdish gallery thread




by the way please check this post in the Kurdish gallery thread i made about Kurds getting modelled as Palestinian Christian and Lezgin and why that is another indicator that the anthromyths about us can not be true in the first place :

 

Ben Dover

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Whoever denies the obvious at this point are deliberately dishonest shitheads or lunatics who live in their fantasy worlds. no shit that people who get modeled the way kurds do wont look South Asian. and the effort from OP to post these many pics of kurds and genetic results was not necessary in the first place. but, oh well..
 

Kurdquistador

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by the way just wanted to add this :

i didnt post all the thousands and thousands of Kurds only to prove that we dont look south asian or gypsy or whatever people had wrongly in mind . like i was not explicitly picking (or cherrypicking) Kurds to disprove them . no

i am posting Kurds the way Kurds are . thats how we look . i include all possible types too . it is just a natural thing that happens that the galleries prove that we dont look south asian or gulf arab or gypsoid or whatever .....because guess what ....we dont . so of course when you see thousands of Kurds being posted you will see that we dont look like those people .....unless you are an imbecile or dont want to accept reality and even get angry by it
 

Maj313

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Yes bro but they are still gypsies
Yeah but they’re geographically located in MENA, that’s why I said they’re the best looking people in MENA - I’m rating them out of all the other groups living there
 

Ben Dover

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Yeah but they’re geographically located in MENA, that’s why I said they’re the best looking people in MENA - I’m rating them out of all the other groups living there
Northern West Asia bro, Anatolia is in Northern West Asia. MENA is a bullshit term since it is a geopolitical term and Morocco to Oman to Iran is not a tight region geographically
 
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