i can count only 7-8 people in the ilamite collage that can fit as kurds . maybe 1-2 others as atypical too but thats it
hmm
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i can count only 7-8 people in the ilamite collage that can fit as kurds . maybe 1-2 others as atypical too but thats it
hmm
isnt that weird though ? i would have thought much more mazandaranis to pass
maybe it is just this collage . probably there will be more that can pass outside of this collage
Well, you were apparently suprised the isfahan and mazandaran collages dont look kurdish.
But you knew about Ilam already before i posted the collage, so you must had known what the people looks like(this is what i assumed)
I did forgot for a moment you mentioned how you were suprised about iranian groups being proven to look different to kurds(which must mean you're suprised about the ilamite collage looking more different to kurds for your expectations), so my question makes less sense then.
I thought you didnt mention about being suprised about the ilamites looking different to your people. So then i asked: "If youre not suprised about ilamites looking different to kurds, then why are you suprised about isfahan/mazandaran persians looking different to you guys?"
sorry bro i dont understand lol . this is confusing
i am only surprised about the mazandarani collage
i am only surprised about the mazandarani collage
I compare them to the Rojhelat Kurds (Iranian Kurds). Maybe you look at them from a Zazaki standpoint. If I compared them to the Ezdi Kurds the percentage would be much lower. Maybe less than 10%.
So, you are very Zazaki-centric. And I don't want be Ezdi-centric.
i am 60% kurmanji
how often do i need to tell you this ?
lolalso i am not "centric" of anything . i take all kurds into consideration when i judge things
also the kurds in the kurdish gallery and collage thread are from all kind of kurdish provinces and most are kurmanji
Well, youre free to make a collage of mazandaranis yourself, if you like to.
And im not angry in slightest by the way, if you think that. Im just saying you probably would prove yourself right about mazandaranis outside this collage passing better amongst kurds.
The thing is however, i cherrypick these pics based on them not having too thick beards(beards cover jaws), and have faces that shows both eyes, mouth, nose etc closer to the camera. But apart from that(+ watching out if i didnt pick any afghan migrants), i dont really focus on their looks. All i did was pick these pics from profiles on FB, the ones who wrote themselves to be from mazandaran.
Might collages might be wrong, but i kind of doubt that to be honest(though i wouldnt be suprised if the reality of how mazandaranis look might be slightly different to the collage i made)
no dont get me wrong . i am not saying that you did a bad work or that you had certain agendas or anything . i am just saying that a collage is probably not enough to show the look of mazandaranis and there are probably many mazandaranis outside of this collage that will pass as kurdish
but to be honest ....like i often said .....iranians overall have MANY people who look different from us kurds . contrary to what people believe
but to be honest ....like i often said .....iranians overall have MANY people who look different from us kurds . contrary to what people believe
To be honest, even if you had like 10000 mazandaranis, the amount of them passing as kurds in numbers will change, but i dont think there will be a big difference in %'s.
Like let's assume out of the 80 pics, 20 of them passes, which means 25% passes. And with 10K pics of mazandaranis, i assume %'s will be the same.
well we cant know . it would be good if we had a mazandarani member to give us more information
btw. are you nomansman ?
btw. are you nomansman ?
But they are not from other parts of Kurdistan. Kurdistan is much bigger than you think
there are some that are also from other kurdish areas but yes most are from turkish kurdistan . but from all provinces of turkey kurdistan . majority are not from my area even despite what some idiots accused me of in the past
and the reason i dont post many kurds outside of turkey is because i am not knowledged enough about them and because i can not be sure if the people are really kurds or not or mixed
thats why i asked you to post kurds from your area since you know better
Yeah i amwell we cant know . it would be good if we had a mazandarani member to give us more information
btw. are you nomansman ?
bruh....
What?
They are not Elamites. Calling the province Elam/Ilam is just a fck up by the Iranian regime. The real Elam region was located further South in what is today the Khuzestan, Kohgiluye and Boyer Ahmad, Bushehr and a large part of the Fars province. The province "Elam" is actually located where the Gutians, Lullubi and part of the Kassites were located. They probably do have some Elamite ancestry too no doubt but the base is clearly Mede (Gutian, Lullubi). Also we have genetic data of them. They fall well into the Kurdish cluster and group more with Sorani Kurds from the East.
This is the modern province "Ilam"
This is ancient Elam
And yes the large majority of the province "Ilam" is Kurdish. Even if there is a smaller percentage of non Kurds too. They are Kelhur and Laki Kurds and the same people like the Kurmanshahi Kurds.
They are these people
This is together with half of Lorestan the most southern province of Kurdish territories of course the average there will look slightly different from the average from North. Common sense.
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