can you try to find out how old Wezmeh and Ganj Dareh bones are ?
if I am not wrong I read on TA that they are between 6000 - 8000 years old or so
if I am not wrong I read on TA that they are between 6000 - 8000 years old or so
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how ancients (CHG , Iran N , Anatolia N etc) likely looked like
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but Satsurblia is 13000 years old
but I dont think the inhabitants of Iran N before CHG were like Iran N
no not because of that
man I am confused
do we have a 13000+ years old sample from west iran ? I want to run it on gedmatch
man I am confused
do we have a 13000+ years old sample from west iran ? I want to run it on gedmatch
CHG peaks in Abkhazian people
these 3 people are abkhazian . i think CHG looked similar to them especially the first guy . even though i think their look is diluted by Eearly European Farmer admix especially the woman
these 3 people are abkhazian . i think CHG looked similar to them especially the first guy . even though i think their look is diluted by Eearly European Farmer admix especially the woman
i was right with the other examples on the OP too 
and this type does exist in us but we are a lot more Iran N than CHG
and this type does exist in us but we are a lot more Iran N than CHG
well i have chosen light and western shifted baloch/brahui for the Iran N reference . obviously many balochs/brahuis dont qualify because of the 12-13% AASI that they have on average
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i doubt it . this man looks mestizo
honestly he doesnt look kurdish to me . compare him with people in the kurdish gallery thread . he looks off . i would never guess him as kurdish
dont let your sympathy for him influence you . the kurds in my gallery represent the kurdish look . i posted a million kurds . and this man looks off . regardless of the gallery i would have never guessed this man kurdish to begin with . he doesnt look kurdish to me . but we just have to agree to disagree i guess
you are being annoying again only because i said that that commander doesnt look kurdish . now you try to find a hair in the soup regarding my gallery
1. he is kurdish . period . it doesnt matter if he "looks armenian" to you . so as long as you can not give me a source that he is armenian then be silent please
2. i have not posted garo paylan in the gallery . what the fuck are you even talking about . he is not in the gallery and i know that he is armenian . ok ? one more time for you to understand . garo no is in gallery ...i not posted him in galleryz
1. he is kurdish . period . it doesnt matter if he "looks armenian" to you . so as long as you can not give me a source that he is armenian then be silent please
2. i have not posted garo paylan in the gallery . what the fuck are you even talking about . he is not in the gallery and i know that he is armenian . ok ? one more time for you to understand . garo no is in gallery ...i not posted him in galleryz
btw. I expect you to post kurds too in the gallery . i would appreciate it
CHG is found in the Caucasus. The largest percentage of ChG belongs to Western Georgians and mountaineers of Dagestan. I know there are also Abkhazians, but they are the same Western Georgians, but assimilated and separated from the Georgians because of political games. Outwardly, they are one to one, like Western Georgians.
Perhaps I am wrong, but according to anthropological studies of the Caucasus, the most ancient anthropotype in the Caucasus is the narrow-faced pontid or cusp.
Then some of them were influenced by the mountains, this narrow-faced type (pontid or caspid) turned into a broad-faced mtebid.
The Armenianoid north of Armenia appeared recently and it is not so widespread; it is often found, mainly, in the places of settlement and mixing of the local population with the Armenians or the migration of the population of Urartu. And the Armenianids do not dominate anywhere north of Armenia.
So, I think the CHG were either pontids or mtebids.
Perhaps I am wrong, but according to anthropological studies of the Caucasus, the most ancient anthropotype in the Caucasus is the narrow-faced pontid or cusp.
Then some of them were influenced by the mountains, this narrow-faced type (pontid or caspid) turned into a broad-faced mtebid.
The Armenianoid north of Armenia appeared recently and it is not so widespread; it is often found, mainly, in the places of settlement and mixing of the local population with the Armenians or the migration of the population of Urartu. And the Armenianids do not dominate anywhere north of Armenia.
So, I think the CHG were either pontids or mtebids.
1. armenoids exist also in georgia . and i dont mean "mixed people" as you call them . but ethnic georgians . armenoid doesnt mean armenian
2. i dont know if we can assert any modern phenotype to the ancients like CHG . but they most likely looked similar to the people i gave as an example
3. CHG remnants were found in Georgia
4. you are right that western georgians have the most CHG
Armenoids are found in Georgia, but not more often than in the North Caucasus. And there are far fewer Armenoids among Georgians than Pontids or Mtebids. Armenoids in Georgia are mainly concentrated in the southeast of Georgia. Tbilisi and neighboring regions. Many Armenians live and lived there and Georgians are mixed with Armenians there. That is why I call them mixed, a Georgian's father may be Georgian, and his mother or grandmother may be Armenian. In Georgia there is a tendency, the territory where historically many Georgians lived with Armenians, then the Georgians there are more Armenoid, this is the southeast of Georgia. In western Georgia, the Armenians never lived in large quantities, therefore there is a minimum of Armenoids.
a forum buddy showed me this :
someone reconstructed mesolithic Iranian HG . Hotullb / belt cave
hotullb is basically a more ANE shifted version of Iran Neolithic
handsome guy
someone reconstructed mesolithic Iranian HG . Hotullb / belt cave
hotullb is basically a more ANE shifted version of Iran Neolithic
handsome guy
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ok then you post examples how Iran N and CHG looked like . you always have to find a hair in the soup but never provide anything contrary to it post what you think how they looked like . you can use also modern people to represent
post what you think how they looked like . you can use also modern people to representI always thought at one point it was bullshit that some neolithic iranians(obvs minority) were very dark(think that was brought up by Zoro, though i got to know this from someone else). Even with some old apparent data analysing some neolithic farmers as really light and light haired, and some as really dark haired and dark skinned, i thought it was impossible.
But recently looking at some western iranians being REALLY dark and almost indian looking, i now think its very possible few neolithic iranians could indeed be quiet dark(though rest was obvs lighter) and the data from some study was right(though obvs majority would resemble modern west asians)
But recently looking at some western iranians being REALLY dark and almost indian looking, i now think its very possible few neolithic iranians could indeed be quiet dark(though rest was obvs lighter) and the data from some study was right(though obvs majority would resemble modern west asians)