G25 neolithic model

[Ben Dover]

genetically I get at most +5 less SSA points than a Saudi

those models are pretty bad. I have seen a few saudi and yemenite eurogenes k12b results and the ones who are ssa admixed could go even up to 20% ssa.

 

[Ben Dover]

Can you give me the kit number of a Yemeni with a lot of ssa points?

I'll send them to you as soon as i find them

 

[Kurdquistador]

What could you say about yazidis? Are you able to tell them apart from Anatolia Kurds? Ezid average is near identical to kurdish average.

Target: Ezid Distance: 2.9881% / 0.02988150
33.0	Mediterranean
27.4	Iran_Neolithic
16.8	Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
11.2	East_European_HG
11.2	Natufian
0.4	AASI

yazidis are an interesting case . some look very normal Kurdish like other Kurds . some look very Georgian or Armenian (which doesnt make them non Kurdish looking per se but my first guess would be geo/arm befor kurdish) and some look gypsoid or gulf like

 

[Kurdquistador]

After this there should be no more doubts regarding the exoticness of natufians. to illustrate what I am saying, i will use Saudi model. As it's well known saudis, even non-ssa admixed ones are exotic. Saudis are almost 70% natufian in admixture and the rest of their admix comes from neolithic/pre-neolithic populations that were much less exotic than natufian was. Since saudis are basically a mix of natufian+less exotic populations and they are still this exotic then it screams the woginess of natufians themselves. The climate also has an affect on Saudi looks however it can't be denied that natufian was at least as exotic as modern day gulf/peninsular arabs even though the core of natufian civilization was located in the middle of levant.

Target: Saudi Distance: 6.4986% / 0.06498554
67.8	Natufian
15.2	Iran_Neolithic
14.4	Mediterranean
2.6	Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer

unmixed saudis dont look that exotic often . a considerable amount will even pass as levantine . some even as other near eastern

i talked about a saudi woman i know from AS times ....she was not exotic , i also saw another saudi girl post her pic in forums she wasnt exotic either in fact she looked cypriot or something . also when you look for saudis online you will see there are many who are not exotic

however yes there are also many that are very exotic . but it is questionable if they have admix

 

[Kurdquistador]

this saudi footballer is probably a good example of a non mixed saudi . he most likey scores a shit ton of natufian

saudi princess

 

[Ben Dover]

They are more on the exotic side but ANF and Iran_N admix certainly makes them whiter. They would have looked even more exotic if they were 100% natufian.

 

[Ben Dover]

unmixed saudis dont look that exotic often . a considerable amount will even pass as levantine . some even as other near eastern

It's even weirder that modern day levantines who are only around 1/4 natufian on average and the rest ANF,Iran_N,CHG and very little EHG can still overlap with saudis(non-ssa admixed ones).

Btw lebanese muslims are 6% EHG according to this model.
Post in thread 'G25 neolithic model' https://www.anthroworldforum.com/index.php?threads/g25-neolithic-model.2079/post-44932

 

[Ben Dover]

In this image, saudi princess looks a little bit more exotic.

 

[Ben Dover]

As a side note, Saudis are more 'native' to the Levant region than all the people living in modern day Levant are.

 

[Ben Dover]

Armenians are an interesting case. Their CHG heritage is too little for their location.

 

[Ben Dover]

You should stop spamming these nonsense models and stop taking them seriously.

 

[Ben Dover]

In fact, genetically, there is not much difference between South West Asians and North West Asians. Southwest Asians get slightly more basal Eurasian scores

There isn't a huge genetic diversity in human beings to begin with but if we narrow things down, SW Asian populations and northern west asian populations are descended from same sources but in a vastly different proportions which make them diverge from one another. Saudi also has natufian, ANF, Iran_N and traces of CHG and EHG but the proportions of these components differ in northern west asian people

 

[Ben Dover]

it really makes sense to me

ROFLMAO

 

[Kurdquistador]

if you spam one more of such nonsense i will give you a reply ban for this thread

and by the way of course southwest asians are different from us . not only a little

 

[Ben Dover]

For example, pure Southwest Asians will be closer to Northwest Asians than North Africans.

That's doubtful

 

[Kurdquistador]

ssa mixed southwest Asians are very different racially from Northwest Asians, but I am trying to show that there is not much difference between pure southwest Asians and northwest Asians. For example, pure Southwest Asians will be closer to Northwest Asians than North Africans.

they are still quite different from us to be honest . but i understand what you mean

but to be honest (and this will make some lurkers rage ) when we exculde some exotics then northern west asians look more like a darker version of balkan people than they look like unmixed SWA

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[Ben Dover]

NWA vs SWA. Can't tell the difference between the 2. that must mean that both are close/similar.

Target: Yemenite_Jew Distance: 5.7620% / 0.05762049
63.2	Natufian
18.4	Mediterranean
14.0	Iran_Neolithic
4.4	Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer

 

[Ben Dover]

Yemenis/Yemenian Jews do not have ANE

They have a little bit of ANE from CHG and Iran_N.

unlike other northwest Asians, have more basal Eurasians

They aren't northern west asian population. they don't even live in northern west asia.

But still, that doesn't mean they won't make people who don't look like northwest Asians.

NWA looking yemenite/yemenite jew would be a very atypial case. Normally people with this kind of component composition can't produce NWA looking people.

 

[Ben Dover]

one Yemeni and one Circassian get almost similar caucasoid scores. Yemenis are a little more basal Eurasian and Circassians a little more mongoloid. basically equally caucasoid people

Depends on which model/calculators they get the same caucasoid scores. Yemenis have non-ssa and ssa admixed individuals as well. Therefore it's not accurate to claim that. Circassians are 5% mongoloid on average and the rest is akmost entirely caucasoid. In the case of ssa admixed yemenis, they can be anywhere from 5 to 25% ssa. However, the caucasoid component in non-ssa admixed yemenite is more exotic than the one in circassians. As you can see yemenites' caucasoid mostly comes from natufians who were just as exotic as north indians/pakis.

 

[Kurdquistador]

i dont think natufians were like pakis