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G25 neolithic model

Ben Dover

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Feel free to let me know why you think there is such an insignificant difference in the natufian scores but a noticeable difference in CHG, Iran_N scores. EHG score difference is also interesting. @Raptor @Bana da bir bardak su
Target: Georgian_Jew
Distance: 4.0365% / 0.04036534
36.6Mediterranean
24.6Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
17.4Natufian
16.2Iran_Neolithic
5.2East_European_HG

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Target: MS
Distance: 3.2806% / 0.03280578
36.8Mediterranean
36.2Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
15.2Natufian
9.0Iran_Neolithic
2.8East_European_HG
 

Kurdquistador

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the georgian jew reference has more Iran N than you and Iran N hides some natufian

and you being a quarter Georgian makes your CHG more
 

Ben Dover

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the georgian jew reference has more Iran N than you and Iran N hides some natufian

and you being a quarter Georgian makes your CHG more
Natufian in Iran_N is insignificant.

Target: Iran_Neolithic
Distance: 15.8854% / 0.15885387
75.4Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
12.2AASI
9.0Natufian
3.0Niger-Congo
0.4Nilo_Saharan

CHG difference is kind of logical.
It's still puzzling why I have less EHG than the reference.
 

idklolimo

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Natufian in Iran_N is insignificant.

Target: Iran_Neolithic
Distance: 15.8854% / 0.15885387
75.4Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
12.2AASI
9.0Natufian
3.0Niger-Congo
0.4Nilo_Saharan

CHG difference is kind of logical.
It's still puzzling why I have less EHG than the reference.
EHG is mostly ANE, so CHG and Iran neo has tons of ANE in it. that's why you don't get EHG
 

Ben Dover

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EHG is mostly ANE, so CHG has tons of ANE in it. that's why you don't get EHG
I am aware that CHG does mask some EHG inside of it but I was wondering why my direct EHG component is less than that of the reference. Think of it this way. I get my CHG separately which of course contains some EHG but I also get EHG itself separately. The amount of actual/separate EHG that I get is confusing to me. That's what I meant basically.
 

idklolimo

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I am aware that CHG does mask some EHG inside of it but I was wondering why my direct EHG component is less than that of the reference. Think of it this way. I get my CHG separately which of course contains some EHG but I also get EHG itself separately. The amount of actual/separate EHG that I get is confusing to me. That's what I meant basically.
Your WHG amount may be low.
 

Ben Dover

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Your WHG amount may be low.
my WHG is non existent. Even if you take the Dutch, even they only get 15% pure WHG. But EHG is 1/2 WHG-like anyway.

Target: Dutch
Distance: 6.6903% / 0.06690317
44.8Mediterranean
33.2East_European_HG
14.8WHG
7.2Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer

Target: East_European_HG:RUS_Samara_HG
Distance: 21.2143% / 0.21214265
50.6WHG
34.8Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
8.2East_Eurasian
4.0Iran_Neolithic
2.4AASI
 

Ben Dover

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Didn't expect such a high EHG in Lebanese.

Target: Lebanese_Muslim
Distance: 2.7612% / 0.02761244
38.8Mediterranean
25.4Natufian
15.6Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
14.0Iran_Neolithic
6.2East_European_HG
 

idklolimo

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my WHG is non existent. Even if you take the Dutch, even they only get 15% pure WHG. But EHG is 1/2 WHG-like anyway.

Target: Dutch
Distance: 6.6903% / 0.06690317
44.8Mediterranean
33.2East_European_HG
14.8WHG
7.2Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer

Target: East_European_HG:RUS_Samara_HG
Distance: 21.2143% / 0.21214265
50.6WHG
34.8Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
8.2East_Eurasian
4.0Iran_Neolithic
2.4AASI
The WHG component of the Europeans seems to have been swallowed up by the Anatolians and steppe immigrants who later came to the region.
 

Ben Dover

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thats one of the things that make me doubt G25
it's reasonable that levantines, especially syrians and lebanese to have slightly more CHG than kurds on average. The reason for that is because these people derive a lot of their ancestry from Bronze age caucasus population that was obviously CHG rich in composition. Additionally, apparently a knock off version of kura-araxes civilization was established in southern levant according to excavations. Southern Levant feels like and is a completely different world from caucasus if you ask me but it is what it is thanks to the migrations.
 
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