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[Kurdquistador]

Of course Troy was not Greek....how could they be Greeks when they fought with Mycenaens? Also all of the philosophical schools and metropolitan cities in classical period were in Continental Greece and Peloponese,not in Anatolia..Not to talk about Crete or Cyprus which totally lack ancient Hellenic monuments.

look at the genetic evidence i posted . northern mainland greeks are actually the least mycenaen . greek islanders are the most

 

[GrekoManiac]

so from my last post we can say that greek islanders are the closest greeks to the mycenaeans

i also modelled modern greeks with mycenaeans + ukrainian for the indoeuropean admix and also to show the "slavic" admix in north greece

Distance to:	GRC_Mycenaean
0.05100425	Greek_Kos
0.05223553	Greek_Dodecanese
0.05509976	Greek_Crete
0.05592299	Greek_Izmir
0.05916259	Greek_Laconia
0.06417624	Greek_Peloponnese
0.07008565	Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.07037674	Greek_Thessaly
0.07598938	Greek_Cappadocia
0.07658673	Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.07719764	Greek_Macedonia

Target: Greek_Thessaly
Distance: 2.2396% / 0.02239617
63.0 GRC_Mycenaean
37.0 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Peloponnese
Distance: 2.3611% / 0.02361057
67.0 GRC_Mycenaean
33.0 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Macedonia
Distance: 2.2177% / 0.02217694
59.0 GRC_Mycenaean
41.0 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Laconia
Distance: 3.0224% / 0.03022428
71.8 GRC_Mycenaean
28.2 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Kos
Distance: 4.5805% / 0.04580523
87.6 GRC_Mycenaean
12.4 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Izmir
Distance: 2.8569% / 0.02856904
73.4 GRC_Mycenaean
26.6 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Dodecanese
Distance: 4.8627% / 0.04862676
89.4 GRC_Mycenaean
10.6 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Crete
Distance: 4.2253% / 0.04225274
80.4 GRC_Mycenaean
19.6 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Central_Macedonia
Distance: 1.8316% / 0.01831631
58.8 GRC_Mycenaean
41.2 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Central_Anatolia
Distance: 6.8796% / 0.06879612
92.6 GRC_Mycenaean
7.4 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Cappadocia
Distance: 7.4843% / 0.07484290
92.8 GRC_Mycenaean
7.2 Ukrainian

Thats totally fake.... So if the Mycenaens were gentically closer to the Anatolians and Aegean islanders and far from the mainland Greeks, then i have to admit they werent the proto-Greeks also...

 

[Kurdquistador]

well i remember seeing our friend grekomaniac on another forum and iirc he was in arguments and disagreements on stuff with other greek members

well i said what i thought i needed to say on this topic and also posted genetic stuff etc .

it is not a topic of my concern anyway so whatever ....

shall greek people look into it . not my beer

 

[GrekoManiac]

Ancient inhabitants of any period from continental Greece, were mostly paleolithic survivors of the region of continental Greece not any Eef or Anf. Why do u claim Mycenaens when u are an anatolian Greek? Stict to your Miletous and anatolian civilization,and leave Mycenaens for the Peloponesian Greeks who in fact look closer to Macedonians ,Epirotes and Thessalians than to armenoid and orientalid anatolian "Greeks"...... I know to who i am talking with,....a anatolian immigrant.

 

[GrekoManiac]

I don't care about it either, like I don't care the origin of the Jews, or Hindus and all other people on this planet, but to deny the Greek Philosophy that gave birth to the Western Civilization because it has its origin in Asia Minor is really insane.


If they don’t want to claim the origin of the Greek Philosophy, maybe we should start to claim it, hehe.


If Aristotle was not a Greek, maybe he was a Kurd. Let's Kurdify Aristotle. I am talking about Aristotle here, OMG! I would be the first who would accept Aristotle as a Kurd. Only 1 person like Aristotle would make a Kurdish history much more richer. I mean, you can compare Aristotle maybe even to Zarathustra and some so called Greeks say he was not a Greek because he was born in Asia Minor. Those dudes are crazy..

Aristotle was born in asia? He was a Macedonian with origins from Euboia island. And guess whst also,Greeks from Euboia look closer to continental Greeks.

 

[Kurdquistador]

grekomaniac do you consider this cretan musician as greek ?

just curious

 

[GrekoManiac]

Listen man i dont give a shit if philosophy was born in western Anatolia. Its already a know fact and these people in western Asia minor were not Hellenes,so they passed it to us Greeks and we developed it even more. Thats how it always works

 

[GrekoManiac]

grekomaniac do you consider this cretan musician as greek ?

just curious

No he isnt ethnic Greek. He passes better among Lebanese and Turks. He is either a turkocretan or deschendant of the Minoans.

 

[GrekoManiac]

Okay then. Can I have Pythagoras? He was also born in Asia Minor. Otherwise Turks will make him his own, hehe.

Bro, please stop. We have got ancient DNA of the ancient proto-Hellenic Mycenaeans. Seriously, it is game over.


By the way, Mycenaeans looked genetically very different from the Kurds, so I don't try to make a link between them and my people. Kurds are much more CHG/Irn_ChL people, while Mycenaeans had some Irn_ChL, they were mostly ANF/EEF people. Even Armenians are closer to the ancient Mycenaeans.

After the Mycenaens there were also more indo-European waves into Greece like the Dorians .So Mycenaens were not exactly the same as classical Greeks or Hellenistic period Greeks.

 

[GrekoManiac]

Hahaha,th

A lot of Pontics look paler than you (not that this fact makes them any better as humans), you look like you have Gypsy admixture, going by your complexion and lips. Is it because of this reason you suffer from OWD and want to create divisions between your people?

Until u show us how u look like.I am far more European than u.

 

[GrekoManiac]

By the way, I have never seen a Greek in my life who looks MORE Greek than the legendary Demis Roussos!

He doesnt look Greek in the slightest.

 

[GrekoManiac]

Yes he does. You are crazy as f*ck! He doesn't look Polish, that's for sure, hehe.

He doesnt look Greek either. Especially in his later fotoes. I would say he is Egyptian

 

[GrekoManiac]

Who is "our own people"

 

[Kurdquistador]

i am always kinda confused about this "yuropeen" stuff

as if portuguese and finns , norwegians and greeks etc. are the same in looks and genetic make up

what ancient populations are "european" ? whg ..ok . what else

 

[GrekoManiac]

i am always kinda confused about this "yuropeen" stuff

as if portuguese and finns , norwegians and greeks etc. are the same in looks and genetic make up

what ancient populations are "european" ? whg ..ok . what else

A European can undeestand another person who is predominately European just by their looks

 

[GrekoManiac]

I have Green eyes and brown-dark blond hair, also Euro face expresions. Alaska looks balkan and European to u?Because for me he passes better in places like Iran

 

[GrekoManiac]

Ok, whatever u say , Alaska feats in Europe, and white is actually black.

 

[Kurdquistador]

grekomaniac my friend of course i can pass in iran but trust me many iranians look different from me and iran is not that good of a fit for me . i have met and known a lot of iranians in real life and know pretty well how they look . i look different than them in general but since iran has a lot of diversity and is a west asian country of course i pass there especially in the northwest

we dont have to discuss if i pass as european since i already know your opinion . however you should believe me regarding of what i say about iran

btw. @Onyx post in my thread bro (in my signature) . you have not posted yet

 

[Chris Huiqui]

Berid & Armenoid