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[Guti]

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[Kurdquistador]

mediterranid

looks very greek

 

[GrekoManiac]

Demis Roussos was born in Egypt but had Greek parents (both). Accroding to me he looked like a mixture between the Greeks and the Armenians.

Post Reall Greeks, not Egyptian immigrants to Greece.

 

[Kurdquistador]

if his parents are ethnic greek then he is greek . doesnt matter if he is born on mars , venus or whererver . lol

 

[GrekoManiac]

if his parents are ethnic greek then he is greek . doesnt matter if he is born on mars , venus or whererver . lol

I dont know ethnic Greeks living in Egypt man. Greeks live in Greece. I bet my fortune, his parents are anatolian so called ''Greeks'' who fled to Alexandria, after Turkish persecution. Most so called ''Greeks'' of Alexandria are from this anatolian tribe that was unfortunately Hellenized by Alexander the Great.

 

[GrekoManiac]

I have a good friend whose father is from Greece and his mother is Dutch. He must be a REAL Greek because his mother is Germanic ..

No, by definition he is half Greek , half German. So no fully Greek and not fully German, and unwelcome in both communities.

 

[Kurdquistador]

I dont know ethnic Greeks living in Egypt man. Greeks live in Greece. I bet my fortune, his parents are anatolian so called ''Greeks'' who fled to Alexandria, after Turkish persecution. Most so called ''Greeks'' of Alexandria are from this anatolian tribe that was unfortunately Hellenized by Alexander the Great.

there are egyptian people of greek descent afaik and this man seems to be one

anatolian greeks are not greeks ? why ?

and what is a "real greek? in your opinion ?

 

[GrekoManiac]

there are egyptian people of greek descent afaik and this man seems to be one

anatolian greeks are not greeks ? why ?

and what is a "real greek? in your opinion ?

No, Anatolian ''Greeks'' are not real Greeks. The reall Greeks are from mainland Greece and live in Greece , not in Egypt. Some reall Greek phenotypes VS Anatolian ''Greek'' Middle Eastern phenotypes.




VS

 

[GrekoManiac]

This is an anatolian so called ''Greek'' with Pontian phenotype.

 

[GrekoManiac]

Thank you, but I have been in Greece thousands of times. I know how Greeks look like. And yes, they are the real Europeans. It were the Greeks who invented the concept of 'Europe'. The Greeks are the FOUNDING fathers of Europe. But that doesn't mean they should look nordic..

I never said u need to look Nordic to be Greek or European. But there is a fkn limit. If u pass in Turkey or Iran like the guy i posted above, then u can NOT constitute part of the Hellenic nation.

 

[GrekoManiac]

This football player, Michailidis of PAOK Thessaloniki, cannot be enything else than a falsly Hellenized Anatolian. His phenotype passed in Turkey , Caucasus and his surname is PONTIAN. Many people in Greece like myself , do not consider people like him real ethnic Greek, and unfortunately there are some hundrends of thousands every a million people who look like him in Greece. Dont mistaken me though, i am not of the opinion that only Anatolian ''Greeks'' are the off of Greece. Many Aegean Islanders pass in the middle east, therefore they cannot be Greeks also. In my opinion only Greeks from the mainland and Peloponesians deschend from Ancient Greeks, the rest are deschendants of Minoans , Carians Lydians and other Anatolian peoples.

 

[GrekoManiac]

By the way, the mighty proto-Greek Mycenaeans were darker compared to the modern day Greeks. Those proto-Greeks mixed later a little bit with the Slavic tribes who came from the north and became a little bit lighter. Know your history bro.


The Mycenaeans were most likely like Roussos...

I wouldn't expect anything else from British scientists, than depicting the Mycenaens dark. British even depicted Achillesd as a Black person.

 

[GrekoManiac]

have you ever examined the Mycenaen DNA. Most of their DNA had nothing to do with the Northern Europe, hehe. They were mostly J2a folks for God's sake..

Is this ''Greek'' actor from Istanbull, who fled to Greece , Greek?????

 

[GrekoManiac]

Yes, 100%. He is not a Turk from the Altai for sure. Turks are Mongoloid/Turkic Central Asian..

Relatives of Elia Kazan were slaughtered by the Turks, for being Greeks. He survived a GENOCIDE. It was a GENOCIDE on his Hellenic identity. And you don’t consider him a Greek? Sorry, but WTF are you?

Most Greeks evolved from their DIRECT ancestors the Mycenaen. And we have got their genetic profile. We know their ancient DNA and the most modern Greeks are from them.


I think you are a little bit confused. Do something about that!

I know Greeks deschend mainly from the Mycenaens , but mycenaens didnt look non-European or Armenoid like Kazan and Giannatos......

 

[GrekoManiac]

Answer me this.....what have Greeks to do with the Armenoid race? Show me one ancient sculture from ancient Greece of any period,which is showing armenoid race....So how can these anatolian Armenoids like the actor i posted ,be 100% Greek? U are a madman.

 

[GrekoManiac]

Greeks are not of the Armenoide race. Greeks are Europeans of the ancient Hellenic/Mycenaen race.

By the way, Greek and Armenian languages share a lot similarities with each other. Greek and the Armenian languages are the closest relatives to each other. Greek language is much closer to the Armenian language than let say to Russian or Italian..

I agree,but racially we Greeks dont have much in common with Caucasus peoples.

 

[GrekoManiac]

U mean Anatolians and Armenians have been leaving next to eachothers for years.... because mainland Greece,where native Greeks are loving,is a bit far from eastern Turkey

 

[Kurdquistador]

no population is "of the armenoid race" . there is never only one phenotype present among any ethnic group

and there are armenoid greeks . just in small numbers but they exist

i dont understand why mainland greeks are the "real" greeks and islanders and anatolians are not . especially considering the fact that as far as i know northern greece has some "slavic" admix to begin with

this is the ethnicity list for mycenaean on G25 btw. :


Distance to: GRC_Mycenaean

0.04621737 Italian_Calabria
0.04809307 Italian_Campania
0.04995370 Italian_Apulia
0.04999673 Italian_Basilicata
0.05085882 Sicilian_East
0.05100425 Greek_Kos
0.05223553 Greek_Dodecanese
0.05364111 Italian_Jew
0.05422879 Italian_Abruzzo
0.05499403 Italian_Molise
0.05509976 Greek_Crete
0.05550294 Ashkenazi_Germany
0.05592299 Greek_Izmir
0.05626354 Maltese
0.05656327 Italian_Lazio
0.05678270 Romaniote_Jew
0.05791609 Cypriot_B
0.05864589 Sicilian_West
0.05865506 Italian_Umbria
0.05916259 Greek_Laconia
0.05947335 Sephardic_Jew
0.06132990 Italian_Marche
0.06302908 Ashkenazi_Poland
0.06323574 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.06417624 Greek_Peloponnese
0.06498297 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.06505368 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.06516684 Cypriot
0.06542537 French_Corsica
0.06565772 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.06637160 Italian_Tuscany
0.07008565 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.07037674 Greek_Thessaly
0.07139643 Moroccan_Jew
0.07313342 Albanian
0.07453769 Tunisian_Jew
0.07526313 Italian_Piedmont
0.07598938 Greek_Cappadocia
0.07622365 Syrian_Jew
0.07658673 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.07700188 Libyan_Jew
0.07719764 Greek_Macedonia
0.07853845 Rumelia_East
0.07977134 Swiss_Italian
0.08043459 Italian_Lombardy
0.08231298 Italian_Bergamo
0.08324580 Sardinian
0.08393354 Lebanese_Christian
0.08397626 Druze
0.08401142 Italian_Liguria

 

[Kurdquistador]

so from my last post we can say that greek islanders are the closest greeks to the mycenaeans

i also modelled modern greeks with mycenaeans + ukrainian for the indoeuropean admix and also to show the "slavic" admix in north greece

Distance to:	GRC_Mycenaean
0.05100425	Greek_Kos
0.05223553	Greek_Dodecanese
0.05509976	Greek_Crete
0.05592299	Greek_Izmir
0.05916259	Greek_Laconia
0.06417624	Greek_Peloponnese
0.07008565	Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.07037674	Greek_Thessaly
0.07598938	Greek_Cappadocia
0.07658673	Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.07719764	Greek_Macedonia

Target: Greek_Thessaly
Distance: 2.2396% / 0.02239617
63.0 GRC_Mycenaean
37.0 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Peloponnese
Distance: 2.3611% / 0.02361057
67.0 GRC_Mycenaean
33.0 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Macedonia
Distance: 2.2177% / 0.02217694
59.0 GRC_Mycenaean
41.0 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Laconia
Distance: 3.0224% / 0.03022428
71.8 GRC_Mycenaean
28.2 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Kos
Distance: 4.5805% / 0.04580523
87.6 GRC_Mycenaean
12.4 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Izmir
Distance: 2.8569% / 0.02856904
73.4 GRC_Mycenaean
26.6 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Dodecanese
Distance: 4.8627% / 0.04862676
89.4 GRC_Mycenaean
10.6 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Crete
Distance: 4.2253% / 0.04225274
80.4 GRC_Mycenaean
19.6 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Central_Macedonia
Distance: 1.8316% / 0.01831631
58.8 GRC_Mycenaean
41.2 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Central_Anatolia
Distance: 6.8796% / 0.06879612
92.6 GRC_Mycenaean
7.4 Ukrainian

Target: Greek_Cappadocia
Distance: 7.4843% / 0.07484290
92.8 GRC_Mycenaean
7.2 Ukrainian

 

[GrekoManiac]

Of course Troy was not Greek....how could they be Greeks when they fought with Mycenaens? Also all of the philosophical schools and metropolitan cities in classical period were in Continental Greece and Peloponese,not in Anatolia..Not to talk about Crete or Cyprus which totally lack ancient Hellenic monuments.