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Coffeecup's AncestryDNA results + Hacked (bonus!)

Coffeecup

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My AncestryDNA results! I also have a 23andme results thread if you're interested in comparing the two. Questions and insights are welcome.

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Hacked results
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Also got 1 genetic group
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Was hoping for more groups since I have some recent European ancestry.
 

Coffeecup

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Are your results accurate in your opinion?
Definitely not as accurate as 23andme (at least for me). But they are good, they are accurate enough, so I guess they are accurate. I was actually more disappointed with the lack of genetic groups and no chromosome browser than anything else. Although I do have French Canadian ancestry like they identified of course.
It underestimates French (although it is good it has a French region at all lol) and it vastly underestimates Irish and overestimates Scottish quite a bit. I also have semi-recent Dutch Ancestry which it doesn't detect at all. Since my grandma had ancestry from Bukovina in Ukraine/Romania I also believe Balkan should show up like it does on other websites, however some is likely absorbed into Eastern European based on Ancestries map of the Eastern Europe region.
I also am a bit confused about scoring 5% Sweden/Denmark as I have no ancestry from there at least in the past 500 years, although it is probably acting as a proxy for something else I imagine.

I did find it cool and interesting that it identified trace Indigenous like 23andme did. I think the Mongolia trace is East Eurasian from my Ukrainian grandma.

However it is broadly accurate, and it think it was fun and interesting to do a second test :). I also expect that some of these sites will struggle a bit with separating European subregions especially with someone like me, and random inheritance ofc. But hopefully an update is coming =).
 

Beowulf

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Spain
Definitely not as accurate as 23andme (at least for me). But they are good, they are accurate enough, so I guess they are accurate. I was actually more disappointed with the lack of genetic groups and no chromosome browser than anything else. Although I do have French Canadian ancestry like they identified of course.
It underestimates French (although it is good it has a French region at all lol) and it vastly underestimates Irish and overestimates Scottish quite a bit. I also have semi-recent Dutch Ancestry which it doesn't detect at all. Since my grandma had ancestry from Bukovina in Ukraine/Romania I also believe Balkan should show up like it does on other websites, however some is likely absorbed into Eastern European based on Ancestries map of the Eastern Europe region.
I also am a bit confused about scoring 5% Sweden/Denmark as I have no ancestry from there at least in the past 500 years, although it is probably acting as a proxy for something else I imagine.

I did find it cool and interesting that it identified trace Indigenous like 23andme did. I think the Mongolia trace is East Eurasian from my Ukrainian grandma.

However it is broadly accurate, and it think it was fun and interesting to do a second test :). I also expect that some of these sites will struggle a bit with separating European subregions especially with someone like me, and random inheritance ofc. But hopefully an update is coming =).
U have a very cool and interesting Background me i have a big family tree

Im mostly Iberian 1/8 English, 1/16 North Italian, 1/16 Polish, some French and Distant Norwegian so my results are sometimes weird mostly with G25
 

Coffeecup

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U have a very cool and interesting Background me i have a big family tree

Im mostly Iberian 1/8 English, 1/16 North Italian, 1/16 Polish, some French and Distant Norwegian so my results are sometimes weird mostly with G25
Thanks! I'm still always trying to find out more and there are still some holes in my family tree and history I want to fill in, so still more to discover =). My known background is about 1/2 British/Irish/Scottish, 1/4 French Canadian, and 1/4 Ukrainian and a few other distant ancestries.

That's very cool! My G25 results have been pretty good for the most part, although I feel like some G25 calculators try to average my ancestry out overall a bit too much lol. How is G25 weird for you usually?

I have made some interesting discoveries recently though :)
 

Beowulf

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Spain
Thanks! I'm still always trying to find out more and there are still some holes in my family tree and history I want to fill in, so still more to discover =). My known background is about 1/2 British/Irish/Scottish, 1/4 French Canadian, and 1/4 Ukrainian and a few other distant ancestries.

That's very cool! My G25 results have been pretty good for the most part, although I feel like some G25 calculators try to average my ancestry out overall a bit too much lol. How is G25 weird for you usually?

I have made some interesting discoveries recently though :)
I overlap and plot with French so i get to much French that i shouldn't get
 

Coffeecup

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I overlap and plot with French so i get to much French that i shouldn't get
Interesting, that is an issue. I guess your combination of ethnicities makes your DNA look French lol. Also sorry for asking this but I'm super curious but do you identify as Spanish or fully Iberian or not? How do you identify? :coffee:
 

IberoTarasco

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Seems like you are 1/3 Scottish, 1/4 Eastern European (either Ukrainian or Romanian), 1/8 French-Canadian, 1/8 English, 1/32 Irish, & a very small amount of Native American, the Central Asian could also be from your Native American ancestry.

You might also be 1/20 Scandinavian, but that could also be from your British ancestry from Germanic settlement, you also have a small percentage of North Italian, but that could be from Roman ancestry either via France or England.

You also have a bit of Dutch ancestry, which could be hidden under the England part of your results.

Nice results, & keep in mind that Ancestry is updating the results really soon, there's already a Hack.
 

Beowulf

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Spain
Interesting, that is an issue. I guess your combination of ethnicities makes your DNA look French lol. Also sorry for asking this but I'm super curious but do you identify as Spanish or fully Iberian or not? How do you identify? :coffee:
I was born in spain and lived here since always so i only identifiy as Mallorcan(the island were i was born) and Spanish Hvaing some ancestry in other parts of europe is interesting for me but i don't identify with them. But don't worry u can ask other things if u want i like to talk about genetics and genalogy : D

Usually i need to delete the french samples for the G25 calculators due that issue of overlaping with them.
 

Coffeecup

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Seems like you are 1/3 Scottish, 1/4 Eastern European (either Ukrainian or Romanian), 1/8 French-Canadian, 1/8 English, 1/32 Irish, & a very small amount of Native American, the Central Asian could also be from your Native American ancestry.

You might also be 1/20 Scandinavian, but that could also be from your British ancestry from Germanic settlement, you also have a small percentage of North Italian, but that could be from Roman ancestry either via France or England.

You also have a bit of Dutch ancestry, which could be hidden under the England part of your results.

Nice results, & keep in mind that Ancestry is updating the results really soon, there's already a Hack.
Your estimate is pretty close, although genealogy wise for fact I am 1/4 French Canadian and at a minimum 3/16 Irish despite what the AncestryDNA results say, but I appreciate your opinion of course. Of course multiple factors will effects the results such as reference populations, random inheritance, the algorithm used and others. 23andme isn't perfect either.

The Scandinavian has me curious though since I haven't been able to find ancestors of that sort in my tree but yeah I think it could be a Germanic or Dutch proxy maybe, similarly for the North Italian I have not found recent ancestors from there but I also believe it is likely old Roman input.

I think the Dutch being hidden under England is quite plausible since I've seen Dutch people score England & NW Europe quite a bit. It Isn't super surprising it might be absorbed since I'm only 1/16 from my knowledge.

It's possible the Central Asian could be from that, I also suspect it could be from my Ukrainian grandmother though since she scores Mongolian on 23andme.

And thanks! =) I'm really excited for the 2023 update although the hack still Isn't working for me. For those I've seen though it looks like relatively small changes probably. I'm actually hoping more that the 2023 update will bring new genetic communities for me or new features. I will be checking for an update daily though =)
 

Coffeecup

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I was born in spain and lived here since always so i only identifiy as Mallorcan(the island were i was born) and Spanish Hvaing some ancestry in other parts of europe is interesting for me but i don't identify with them. But don't worry u can ask other things if u want i like to talk about genetics and genalogy : D

Usually i need to delete the french samples for the G25 calculators due that issue of overlaping with them.
Ok cool! What do you know about your Mallorcan ancestors?

For me I just identify as American or Canadian usually because 3/4 of my grandparents were born in Canada, and some have been in Canada for quite a while. But It's confusing because some people think I should identify as American because I was born in the US which is understandable, I mean since I lived in the US most of my life I feel culturally closest to people from the US. But then some US people have told me I'm not American lol so yeah. I do really like it though when people want to know about my actual family history and ancestry then I tell them what I know :). But ofc I still have more to discover probably.
 

Beowulf

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Spain
Ok cool! What do you know about your Mallorcan ancestors?

For me I just identify as American or Canadian usually because 3/4 of my grandparents were born in Canada, and some have been in Canada for quite a while. But It's confusing because some people think I should identify as American because I was born in the US which is understandable, I mean since I lived in the US most of my life I feel culturally closest to people from the US. But then some US people have told me I'm not American lol so yeah. I do really like it though when people want to know about my actual family history and ancestry then I tell them what I know :). But ofc I still have more to discover probably.
Not much because the only true mallorcan ancestor was a great great grandfather is common that in Mallorca we have ancestry from other parts my father is of Andalusian and aragonese origin with some ligurian and french and mother Mallorcan, Basque, Andalusian, Galician, English 1/4, Polish 1/8 and distant Norwegian

My Mallorcan great great grandfather had a french surname wich is my second surname Durant but idk if it's recent or not bcs there are families in mallorca with foreigner family names sinces may generations.

you know the benefits of being an Islander a lot of people came and still come here.
 

Coffeecup

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Not much because the only true mallorcan ancestor was a great great grandfather is common that in Mallorca we have ancestry from other parts my father is of Andalusian and aragonese origin with some ligurian and french and mother Mallorcan, Basque, Andalusian, Galician, English 1/4, Polish 1/8 and distant Norwegian

My Mallorcan great great grandfather had a french surname wich is my second surname Durant but idk if it's recent or not bcs there are families in mallorca with foreigner family names sinces may generations.

you know the benefits of being an Islander a lot of people came and still come here.
Kind of genealogy or DNA unrelated question, but I'm curious lol but how does Mallorcan dialect differ from Spanish in your opinion?
 

Beowulf

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Spain
Kind of genealogy or DNA unrelated question, but I'm curious lol but how does Mallorcan dialect differ from Spanish in your opinion?
Not much but it comes from Catalan not a dialect of Spanish we have a more closed accent and some few different words so sometimes people from Catalonia and Valencia can't understand us at all.
 

Coffeecup

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Not much but it comes from Catalan not a dialect of Spanish we have a more closed accent and some few different words so sometimes people from Catalonia and Valencia can't understand us at all.
I have another question :cool: what are some interesting occupations/accomplishments you discovered your ancestors had?
 

Beowulf

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Spain
I have another question :cool: what are some interesting occupations/accomplishments you discovered your ancestors had?
My paternal great great grandfather Bartolomé Gallego Delhomme came from a rich family from Aragon and mixed with rich French families and they had important jobs in Catalayud and Llombai (Valencia).

I'll say that his branch is the most interesting that i have in my family tree i was able to trace it to the years 1600s

Later in my maternal side from my grandma one of my great great grandfather was a republican politician in Estepa seville during the civil war, his brother was a Official from the republican army and her sister was a teacher.

My great great grandfather was in jail, his brother was kidnapped and was killed by the Franquists and her sister died felling off from her horse. The problem is now the lack of records, during the civil war many records were destroyed.


Later from my mom side again, my English Great Grear Grandfather Joseph Rastell was a sailor when he was in Spain ( Minorca) and went ti many parts of Europe, we think that he have more sons in other parts of Europe because with my great great grandma Margaret had 14 childrens.
 

Coffeecup

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I'm kind of mad at Ancestry after some recent decisions they made so I'm not gonna discuss these results for some time. We can discuss other things on here.
 

Coffeecup

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Well I will post the 2023 update when it comes! I'm not sure if anyone here has some predictions about it I've heard some funny things about it! I hope It's a step in the right direction but I especially hope I get more genetic groups.
 

Coffeecup

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I got the update. I'm honestly pretty underwhelmed by it and no new genetic groups either. I think there a few minor improvements and a few things that are less accurate. There are some parts of my results I thought were odd that I was hoping the update would fix but unfortunately not. The Scottish decreasing though was a step in the right direction. Although I don't expect these tests to be 100% accurate they are estimates. A waste of excitement, but nevertheless sort of interesting. I really hope Ancestry continues to try and improve Europe and their European samples even though they have lots of them. Also I still have no Germanic Europe or The Balkans even though I should be receiving these percentages in a small amount. Also the 2% Wales is interesting, it would make sense as some of my mom's Irish ancestors had old Welsh ancestry. I suppose it was still fun to see though, I really hope not all future updates will be like this.

Also my one genetic group is still the same (Southwest Quebec French Settlers) one thing I am puzzled about though still is I should definitely have Eastern Quebec as well as I have quite a bit of ancestry from there.

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Coffeecup

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My new results I think they are definitely an improvement from before, but am still frustrated by the lack of genetic groups let alone accurate genetic groups. I had a new European genetic group a few days ago and it just disappeared ): disappointed. But a decent update. Too bad I can't do the hack or see the chromosome painting anymore.
 

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