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classify /state the main types among us in this kurdish set

Kurdquistador

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For me, most pass in Europe.

There are DInaro-Meds, Alpine-Meds, Meds-CM, East-Meds, two Pontids and even some who look West Med and other types.
The more West Asian looking ones look Med/Armenoid and two men who look Iranid influenced.

we are all typical kurds . maybe 1-2 people are less typical for example the blond blue eyed man . his pigmentation is atypical but his features are very typical

in general this is what kurds look like . ethnic kurds and not gypsies or gypsy mixes .

of course there are also more types . like there are also many robust iranids / CM . etc. . but in the kurdish people gallery you can see more of the diversity if you want
 

Kurdquistador

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Avicenna classified these afghans as

"Iranids , east iranids irano nordoids mainly, few pamirids, Turanids( especially man and woman )."

very wrong classification

seriously click on the videolink so you see the faces better . they are not only darker than us but most of them have very different facial features than us .



compare these afghans to us kurds

also if you want a video of kurds for comparison then take this for example . kurds :

 

Kurdquistador

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since there was such a question .....i will play along .

do we look more similar :

to greeks or afghans ?

to sicilians or punjabis ?

to georgians or turkmens ?

to cypriots or kyrgyz ?

some people are really weird .....the answers are obvious
 
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Odelia

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EEF in Kurds is mostly 'Anatolian'. Has nothing to do with the Levant and the Afro-Asiatic people.

'Levant' is the Southern West Asian part of our world. 'Anatolian' is the Northern West Asian part of the world. Semitic people from the Levant, like the Jews, Palestinians, Lebanese and Syrians are Southern West Asian people. They are closely related to people from Arabia and Egypt (Africa).

Kurds in contrast to the Semites/Afro-Asians are the Northern West Asian people. We have a very, very different origin from them. A different human race, period.
Lebanese people look NOTHING like Arabians and Egyptians! Wtf! In fact, more Kurds (as posted here) look like Lebanese people than the fucking Lebanese look like Egyptians! Egyptians and Lebs, two totally different looking peoples! You better come here to Dearborn MI and see for yourself! Egyptians come across as pretty exotic looking bunch!

Stop with this ancient ancestral component BS (EEF, EHG, ET, WTF, WWE, GTFO, whatever the shit they're called). We have all mixed so much since then! :rolleyes:
 

Kurdquistador

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shut the FUCK up odelia ......fucking idiot

we are not darker or more exotic than lyour evantines . deal with it
 

Kurdquistador

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zoro says :

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Well to be fair I consider some Punjabis and Sindhis genetically an extension of the Iranic continuum, and yes many Pashtuns, Afghan Yajiks and Kurds can pass amongst them and visa versa but to say there’s little resemblance between Pashtuns and Kurds especially with so much phenotype variation amongst both since they’re at crossroads is plain wrong. That’s why i posted the photos.

More importantly it should be obvious to everyone that Kurds are not originally from Syria, Iraq or Turkey because they cluster with people further east from Mazendaran and Azerbaijan plus their Zoroasterian background and Iranic religion"



....i am speechless
 

Kurdquistador

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bonus question :

why do many of the people labeled as "kurds" on internet pics and videos do not look like us

like these men for example :




especially these 2 kurds n shiet

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what is the answer ?

A) skidrow (who is a kurd and knows his people better than anthrotard armchair anthropologists who have not met many if any kurds in their lives) cherrypicked thousands of kurdish faces including group pics/videos (roughly 2000 kurds) . and of course he also cherrypicked kurdish genetic results . crystal clear

B) many of the people that are presented or labeled as kurds are actually either mixed people or even not kurdish at all

(will give some links to other posts later)


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what would be the answer in your opinion ?

if you made a poll many people would choose A ....

it is a crazy world we live in where truths are not accepted anymore and where people who speak the truth get doxxed and trolled
 

Kurdquistador

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zoro the cocksucker claims that Iran_N makes you darker in a thread that a punjabi fuck opened with the title why iranians apperently are more "southern" looking than levantines despite being genetically more northern

i am not a fan of G25 because it gives many west asians and even some europeans too much Iran N while giving too little CHG etc. but if we want to believe G25 models then we kurds are one of the ethnicities that have the most Iran_N in west asia .

so all of us people on these photos on the OP have a lot of Iran_N . more so than most west asians . the only people who have more than us are some iranian groups

so we are darker than levantines ? ....only in the fantasy world of TA losers

not that being darker or lighter means shit ....but on anthroforums darkwashing is coupled with trolling and sneaky and childish and also often hateful intentions by idiotic people . and if it is not true it is not true ....we are in no fucking way darker than levantines

such brainless morons should not be allowed to post freely on the internet imo

Iran N is not darker than natufian which levantines have a lot more than we do

some people seem to think Iran N is very "dark" because it peaks in baloch/brahui people ......but you fucking imbeciles baloch/brahui have south asian / AASI admix PLUS they live in a very hot climate on top of it . of course if you have AASI admix and inhabit a very hot area you will be very dark but thats like saying english people are very dark because a mulatto who is half english half ugandan is dark
 
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ImHere

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Apparently there were done a dna analysis on some iranian neolithic samples. Some were quiet light with light features, some were rather dark. Even few iranians without any extra south asian admix can be really dark skinned(despite being local pre-aryan iranians + aryans, which is also something resembling a cross between mesopotamian jews/assyrians and pamiris), so i wouldnt be suprised if the dark genes in some of these iranians came from few iranian neolithics(while others got their light features from sample ancient ancestors)
 
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Kurdquistador

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Apparently there were done a dna analysis on some iranian neolithic samples. Some were quiet light with light features, some were rather dark. Even few iranians without any extra south asian admix can be really dark skinned(despite being local pre-aryan iranians + aryans, which is also something resembling a cross between mesopotamian jews/assyrians and pamiris), so i wouldnt be suprised if the dark genes in some of these iranians came from few iranian neolithics(while others got their light features from sample ancient ancestors)

i doubt it

iran n is "dark" in the sense dark hair and eyes . but modern baloch people are not a good proxy
 

ImHere

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i doubt it

iran n is "dark" in the sense dark hair and eyes . but modern baloch people are not a good proxy

Didnt say modern day balochs are a good proxy, but this is from people who have done a deeper dna analysis themselves regarding this subject(you can read the comment from Ygor in this quora thread, to get an insight):



The links he posted:



"The phenotypic attributes of GD13a are similar to the neighbouring Anatolian early farmers and Caucasus Hunter-Gatherers. Based on diagnostic SNPs, she had dark, black hair and brown eyes (see Supplementary). She lacked the derived variant (rs16891982) of the SLC45A2 gene associated with light skin pigmentation but likely had at least one copy of the derived SLC24A5 allele (rs1426654) associated with the same trait. The derived SLC24A5 variant has been found in both Neolithic farmer and Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer groups5,15,24 suggesting that it was already at appreciable frequency before these populations diverged. Finally, she did not have the most common European variant of the LCT gene (rs4988235) associated with the ability to digest raw milk, consistent with the later emergence of this adaptation5,15,21."





https://genetiker.wordpress.com/2016/07/18/phenotype-snps-from-ancient-iran/ (someone did some analysis of several iranian neolithic samples)



And quotation from a third study, which i cant find now in the quora comment, despite the link being there:


"Consistent with this, outgroup f3 statistics indicate that Iranian Zoroastrians are the most genetically similar to all four Neolithic Iranians, followed by other modern Iranians (Fars), Balochi (SE Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan), Brahui (Pakistan and Afghanistan), Kalash (Pakistan) and Georgians (figs. S12-S15). Interestingly, WC1 most likely had brown eyes, relatively dark skin, and black hair, although Neolithic Iranians carried reduced pigmentation associated alleles in several genes and derived alleles at 7 of the 12 loci showing the strongest signatures of selection in ancient Eurasians (3) (tables S29-S33)."



As you see, the iranian neolithics were diverse in terms of lightness. Obviously through selection, most west iranians are light as other west asians. But this does sort of explain why you can find darker iranians around Tabriz, Ilam, Kermanshah etc, despite not having any additional south asian or sub saharan heritage, and also being a mix of pre-aryan iranians(basically Iran N with shitton of middleeastern, anatolian farmer influenced admix) and CA aryans(same pigment as iranians around Tehran or Tabriz)
 

Kurdquistador

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^ it doesnt say that there were dark iran neos

how do you know btw. that those "dark" north iranians have no south asian influence ?
 

ImHere

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^ it doesnt say that there were dark iran neos

how do you know btw. that those "dark" north iranians have no south asian influence ?
Bro, did you even check the links/quotes i posted? Specially the second one? Some were dark, some were light.

Also, i seen dna results of iranians who were darker. They didnt have extra south asian admix.

You can even find darker skinned people of Tabriz, and i think its a little ridicolous to go and assume every iranian from western parts, specially northwestern parts, have foreign, southern ancestry.
Deal with it dude, some neolithics were darker, some were lighter
 

Kurdquistador

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what you consider dark doesnt need to be dark . you showed me supposedly "dark" turks and kurds who most of them were not even unsually dark

i didnt click on the links no . i just read what you wrote . i will check the links later when i am on computer

we kurds have one of the highest iran neo scores . and we dont have more EHG/Steppe than Iranians . so either the not so dark iran neos all flocked together and came to kurdistan OR most iran neos were not dark

because if in doubt just check the OP pics . if there were so dark iran neos we wouldnt look the way we look . and no that we have more ANF than iranians doesnt make us magically lighter either
 

ImHere

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what you consider dark doesnt need to be dark . you showed me supposedly "dark" turks and kurds who most of them were not even unsually dark

i didnt click on the links no . i just read what you wrote . i will check the links later when i am on computer

we kurds have one of the highest iran neo scores . and we dont have more EHG/Steppe than Iranians . so either the not so dark iran neos all flocked together and came to kurdistan OR most iran neos were not dark

because if in doubt just check the OP pics . if there were so dark iran neos we wouldnt look the way we look . and no that we have more ANF than iranians doesnt make us magically lighter either
Bro, you make this more difficult than it have to be.

I never said most iran neo were dark skinned, only some where(saying the same thing as those analysis and studies said). Youre acting like i said half or 3/4 of iran neo were dark. We're basically saying the same thing in this regard, lol


Most of those turks and kurds i posted would be as dark as average pakistanis man, and you consider them extremely dark for kurds.


And even if i said most iran neos were dark, of course you still be lighter. As there are different factors, which i mentioned before(its like youre not reading what im saying). Im saying this again:


West iranics= mix of pre-aryan locals and CA aryans.

Iranian locals= mix between middleeastern farmers(highly anatolian admixed) and iran neolithics(most were already similiar to most west asians, with some being darker)
CA aryans= would resemble pamiris, albeit less southern passing individuals, since west iranics usually dont get AASI

You see, this will increase the light skin genes in the locals. And lets not forget light skin was valued back then, so due to selection(probably even back to neolithic times), each generation favoured light skin. This will increase more light skin genes.


Its not that complicated. But those dna analysis and studies clearly show some iran neos were dark.
 

Kurdquistador

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those turks and kurds looked very different from pakistanis bro . we will have to agree to disagree on that

well i didnt read carefully since i am not on computer . will reread later again

let us do it this way for now : can you post a "dark" iranian from northern/western regions with his/her genetic results like eurogenes k12b ?
 
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