FinalFlash
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I would say the same. Some Georgians are too exotic to pass as Armenians as well. I do agree that the overlap is more evident with Southern Georgians.
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The Kurds . Kurdish People gallery thread
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bros i dont want to be rude but please dont be so simple minded
oracles are not telling the whole story . neither for looks nor for some genetical things between the lines . you need to read between the lines
i will explain you what i mean
lets take iranians as an example . as you know we kurds get iranians very high in our oracle lists
however ....the problem is that the list does not show some subtile differences that exist among iranians and us
there are some iranians who will score pretty high south asian on eurogenes k12b (also other clacs) . even northern persians will sometimes score up to 11% !!
and iranians also often score less mediterranean than us
this is for example apparently a persian from isfahan :
Western European 3.39 Pct
Siberian 1.45 Pct
East African 1.69 Pct
West Central Asian 21.74 Pct
South Asian 9.83 Pct
West African -
Caucasus 29.38 Pct
Finnish -
Mediterranean 13.46 Pct
Southwest Asian 11.1 Pct
North European 7.24 Pct
East Asian 0.72 Pct
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Persian from Isfahan and Tehran(confirmed by donor herself) :
Western European 1.41 Pct
Siberian 2.3 Pct
East African 0.8 Pct
West Central Asian 27.22 Pct
South Asian 14.47 Pct !!!!
West African 2.19 Pct
Caucasus 28.23 Pct
Finnish 0.67 Pct
Mediterranean 7.72 Pct
Southwest Asian 8.02 Pct
North European 6.51 Pct
East Asian 0.47 Pct
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Persian from Tehran :
Western European 4.8 Pct
Siberian 2.7 Pct
East African 0.64 Pct
West Central Asian 23.89 Pct
South Asian 10.15 Pct
West African 0.63 Pct
Caucasus 31.64 Pct
Finnish -
Mediterranean 9.91 Pct
Southwest Asian 8.27 Pct
North European 6.48 Pct
East Asian 0.9 Pct
they are not typical results . many iranians will have 5-6 % south asian . we can also never know if the person has ancestry from south / east iran or even south asia itself or gypsy mix . but they have many atypical individuals who will score high south asian .
now compare the results above with mine : (i am close to kurdish average scores)
not only do i have practially no south asian ....i also have a lot more mediterranean than them
now if you would take these people / results and would make a an oracle then i would get them pretty high in my list because the overall scores are similar .....but the list would not show these subtile yet important differences which have a big impact on looks etc.
furthermore oracles are not a good indication for looks anyway . georgians are the best example . they often look like balkan people but dont get them even in their top 20 in the oracles
i already explained why this doesnt mean horseshit . both genetically and for looks . in the eurogenes k12b thread i explained it
oracles are not telling the whole story . neither for looks nor for some genetical things between the lines . you need to read between the lines
i will explain you what i mean
lets take iranians as an example . as you know we kurds get iranians very high in our oracle lists
however ....the problem is that the list does not show some subtile differences that exist among iranians and us
there are some iranians who will score pretty high south asian on eurogenes k12b (also other clacs) . even northern persians will sometimes score up to 11% !!
and iranians also often score less mediterranean than us
this is for example apparently a persian from isfahan :
Western European 3.39 Pct
Siberian 1.45 Pct
East African 1.69 Pct
West Central Asian 21.74 Pct
South Asian 9.83 Pct
West African -
Caucasus 29.38 Pct
Finnish -
Mediterranean 13.46 Pct
Southwest Asian 11.1 Pct
North European 7.24 Pct
East Asian 0.72 Pct
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Persian from Isfahan and Tehran(confirmed by donor herself) :
Western European 1.41 Pct
Siberian 2.3 Pct
East African 0.8 Pct
West Central Asian 27.22 Pct
South Asian 14.47 Pct !!!!
West African 2.19 Pct
Caucasus 28.23 Pct
Finnish 0.67 Pct
Mediterranean 7.72 Pct
Southwest Asian 8.02 Pct
North European 6.51 Pct
East Asian 0.47 Pct
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Persian from Tehran :
Western European 4.8 Pct
Siberian 2.7 Pct
East African 0.64 Pct
West Central Asian 23.89 Pct
South Asian 10.15 Pct
West African 0.63 Pct
Caucasus 31.64 Pct
Finnish -
Mediterranean 9.91 Pct
Southwest Asian 8.27 Pct
North European 6.48 Pct
East Asian 0.9 Pct
they are not typical results . many iranians will have 5-6 % south asian . we can also never know if the person has ancestry from south / east iran or even south asia itself or gypsy mix . but they have many atypical individuals who will score high south asian .
now compare the results above with mine : (i am close to kurdish average scores)
not only do i have practially no south asian ....i also have a lot more mediterranean than them
now if you would take these people / results and would make a an oracle then i would get them pretty high in my list because the overall scores are similar .....but the list would not show these subtile yet important differences which have a big impact on looks etc.
furthermore oracles are not a good indication for looks anyway . georgians are the best example . they often look like balkan people but dont get them even in their top 20 in the oracles
i already explained why this doesnt mean horseshit . both genetically and for looks . in the eurogenes k12b thread i explained it
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FinalFlash
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You know the answer. To certain Armenians, Kurds look closer in phenotype than Assyrians. I merely used the oracle example to support my theory.bros i dont want to be rude but please dont be so simple minded
oracles are not telling the whole story . neither for looks nor for some genetical things between the lines . you need to read between the lines
i will explain you what i mean
lets take iranians as an example . as you know we kurds get iranians very high in our oracle lists
however ....the problem is that the list does not show some subtile differences that exist among iranians and us
there are some iranians who will score pretty high south asian on eurogenes k12b (also other clacs) . even northern persians will sometimes score up to 11% !!
and iranians also often score les mediterranean than us
this is for example apparently a persian from isfahan
Western European Siberian East African West Central Asian South Asian West African Caucasus Finnish Mediterranean Southwest Asian North European East Asian
Persian from Isfahan and Tehran(confirmed by donor herself)
Western European Siberian East African West Central Asian South Asian West African Caucasus Finnish Mediterranean Southwest Asian North European East Asian
Persian from Tehran
Western European Siberian East African West Central Asian South Asian West African Caucasus Finnish Mediterranean Southwest Asian North European East Asian
they are not typical results . many iranians will have 5-6 % south asian . we can also never know if the person has ancestry from south / east iran or even south asia itself or gypsy mix . but they have many atypical individuals who will score high south asian .
now compare the results above with mine :
not only do i have practially no south asian ....i also have a lot more mediterranean than them
now if you would take these people / results and would make a an oracle then i would get them pretty high in my list because the overall scores are similar .....but the list would not show these subtile yet important differences which have a big impact on looks etc.
furthermore
Personally, I don't put too much stock into ,amateur G25 and Gedmatch calcs as the end all be all. I'd much prefer pro tools.
it is funny though how first gedmatch was hyped and then G25 was THE TOOL and now also G25 is kicked to the corner and spit upon it lol
i already said in the past that G25 is just meh when it was new....
i already said in the past that G25 is just meh when it was new....
FinalFlash
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G25 is better in a sense where you can make better fits from a bigger pool of samples but they both suffer from calculator effect where certain samples can be masked, or bled into others. At the end of the day, they're both amateur tools meant to be used for fun.
It'd be better for pro tools to become more accessible to the layman imo.
and who do we overlap with in looks ? other than armenians ?
allright . i guess i wont get serious answers
i wont stop
i am the master of kurdish portrayal and i will continue . i dont care if imbeciles wont learn or wont stop their false claims about us nor do i care if anybody cares about this either . i am continuing and people who are interested are welcome to look into my threads
well kurds have been a target of misportrayal and also trolling for a long time . not only anthroforums but on many other places on the internet
and not long ago i still saw some new posts about kurds on TA that were absolutely ridiculous .
but hmmmm . ok . i guess i will stop for a while . Lol
i mean i posted thousands of kurds . thats enough for now
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I remember reading people saying that G25 was the tool for the future and stuff like that😃 now everyone is shitting on it but I agree with FinalFlash that unless pro tools become easily accessible to regular people like us, the best option is still G25. It would also be nice if the pro tools showed distances between the populations once they become more easily accessible
on youtube i got insulted in kurdish language by a guy for saying that this gypsy man from mardin is gypsy . he is very obviously a gypsy and also plays the gypsy instrument
another guy also jumped on me
so stating the obvious that gypsies are not kurds but gypsies is offensive now . i told you guys . i told you
another guy also jumped on me
so stating the obvious that gypsies are not kurds but gypsies is offensive now . i told you guys . i told you
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and even more kurds lel
42025828284283482 kurds so far
( i am not a pkk guy . all pics i am posting only for phenotypical / gallery purposes)
42025828284283482 kurds so far
( i am not a pkk guy . all pics i am posting only for phenotypical / gallery purposes)
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this is the King to be honest :
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All hail the king!this is the King to be honest :
in this thread i have posted around 2000 Kurds . if you dont believe me count it . minimum 1000 for sure because the collages so far have almost 800 on them and i am not done with the collages yet . and on top of it count also group pics and videos with many kurds in them that i have posted
check this thread out from beginning to end and look at all the kurds i posted . and also some posted by member Asil . this is what kurds look like . anything else that drifts too much away from the people posted in this thread is either : - mixed , - not kurdish at all but larping as kurds or - a assimilated person with non kurdish origins , or extremely atypical
kurds have been misportrayed and also trolled for a long time in anthroforums . this has been already the case when i joined anthroforums almost 10 years ago for the first time . the things i have been reading about kurds since then are just fucking crazy
many people wrongly think kurds look like north indians and gypsies xD they have a very wrong idea in their mind of kurds . some people even think we came from india
hahaha .....and such anthromyths spread all around the internet
people wrongly think kurds must look like north indians and gypsies
these men are somewhat close to what many people in forums wrongly believe what kurds look like xD :
a little lighter and a little more western looking version of this dude for example
and especially this guy has a kind of look that people have in mind when they think of us xD ....on another site this guy was guessed as kurd and turk by some people
lmfao
check this thread out from beginning to end and look at all the kurds i posted . and also some posted by member Asil . this is what kurds look like . anything else that drifts too much away from the people posted in this thread is either : - mixed , - not kurdish at all but larping as kurds or - a assimilated person with non kurdish origins , or extremely atypical
kurds have been misportrayed and also trolled for a long time in anthroforums . this has been already the case when i joined anthroforums almost 10 years ago for the first time . the things i have been reading about kurds since then are just fucking crazy
many people wrongly think kurds look like north indians and gypsies xD they have a very wrong idea in their mind of kurds . some people even think we came from india
hahaha .....and such anthromyths spread all around the internet people wrongly think kurds must look like north indians and gypsies
these men are somewhat close to what many people in forums wrongly believe what kurds look like xD :
a little lighter and a little more western looking version of this dude for example
and especially this guy has a kind of look that people have in mind when they think of us xD ....on another site this guy was guessed as kurd and turk by some people
lmfao
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read it on the sewer today
"Iranians look a lot like turks and people from the Caucasus. I’d say the breakdown of phenotypes in iran is like this. 30% look more Turkish and Caucasus like 50% look Iraqi and Kurdish. 20% look Levantine Lebanese/Syrian"
we dont look like iraqis . neither do 50% of Iran look Kurdish . many northwest iranians can individually pass but the more you go east and south the less people even pass . i wonder what kind of image he has in his head when he thinks of kurds . i wonder what he would think kurds look like if he saw our galleries
"Iranians look a lot like turks and people from the Caucasus. I’d say the breakdown of phenotypes in iran is like this. 30% look more Turkish and Caucasus like 50% look Iraqi and Kurdish. 20% look Levantine Lebanese/Syrian"
we dont look like iraqis . neither do 50% of Iran look Kurdish . many northwest iranians can individually pass but the more you go east and south the less people even pass . i wonder what kind of image he has in his head when he thinks of kurds . i wonder what he would think kurds look like if he saw our galleries
fucking LOL
same guy (apperently spanish according to his profile) posted a baloch gedmatch result (eurogenes k13) with 36 % south asian score . of course the south asian component in eurogenes k13 has a lot of west asian in it but still ....
this guy said before that balochs are descendants of kurds which is not true
now he says this
"Btw the original baloch refrence has 54% Caucasus hg or something like that. And like 53% west Asian on k13. U forget baloch people are said to have originated from Kurdistan/Syria and likely true. Then migrated hundreds of years ago to South Asia hundreds and hundreds of years they married within their tribe but ofc some mixing occurred then those individuals mix in back into the tribe some south Asian crept in. Then a part of them migrated to eastern iran and some to Afghanistan."
are you fucking kidding me ? "some south asian crept in"
if "some south asian crept in" with the 36 % score . and if according to him balochs come from kurds ..... how much south asian does he think kurds score ? does he think kurds score 25 % south asian on k13 or something and then "some" crept in later in balochistan making it 36 % ?
bring this guy here . he needs to be educated about kurds . i dont think he is a troll . he seems to be interested in west asia and just doesnt know better
his name is Didac on TA . someone invite him please
same guy (apperently spanish according to his profile) posted a baloch gedmatch result (eurogenes k13) with 36 % south asian score . of course the south asian component in eurogenes k13 has a lot of west asian in it but still ....
this guy said before that balochs are descendants of kurds which is not true
now he says this
"Btw the original baloch refrence has 54% Caucasus hg or something like that. And like 53% west Asian on k13. U forget baloch people are said to have originated from Kurdistan/Syria and likely true. Then migrated hundreds of years ago to South Asia hundreds and hundreds of years they married within their tribe but ofc some mixing occurred then those individuals mix in back into the tribe some south Asian crept in. Then a part of them migrated to eastern iran and some to Afghanistan."
are you fucking kidding me ? "some south asian crept in"
if "some south asian crept in" with the 36 % score . and if according to him balochs come from kurds ..... how much south asian does he think kurds score ? does he think kurds score 25 % south asian on k13 or something and then "some" crept in later in balochistan making it 36 % ?
bring this guy here . he needs to be educated about kurds . i dont think he is a troll . he seems to be interested in west asia and just doesnt know better
his name is Didac on TA . someone invite him please
anyway
for what it is worth . we Kurds can be modelled as roughly 66% Iranian Jewish + 34% North Caucasus
the "north caucasus" are from several north caucasus sources . aggregated
Target: Kurdish
Distance: 2.1349% / 0.02134886
66.0 Iranian_Jew
34.0 North_Caucasus
and this is the G25 ethnicity list for Iranian Jewish
^ many of the populations on the list like Lebanese_Druze , Druze etc. (who are in the top 10 on top of the list ) are heavily whitewashed in anthroforums
and i also have seen shelati the cocksucker asking for classification for an iranian jew saying that he looks " more levantine and even south italian than iranian" . i think iranian jews would also be whitewashed and be presented as if they are a lot lighter than other iranians and of course waaaay whiter than Kurds . simply because they are jews and because they get an oracle like above
so we kurds are like 66% iranian jew but have a northern shift to north caucasus with 33 % . so now think about it . as you know we are one of the most darkwashed and misportrayed people on the internet . how does this genetical modelling make us punjabis ? logic ? doesnt it ring a bell ? doesnt anybody see that something really fucked up is going on ?
levantines and jews are sooooo light and vikings of west asia , north caucasus are lighter and have more east european and less southwest asian than northern west asians to their south . and they are even geographically in europe
Kurds can be modelled as a mix of both but hey they are gypsoid and punjabi like and VERY dark and exotic . yeah right
that Didac guy from TA . tell him to be quite about kurds . he is spewing bullshit . bring him here
when will this shit end . when will people shut the fuck up ? it is really getting ridiculous . this shit goes on for YEARS . thread after thread after thread after thread
i am sick of talking about it . no it is NOT fun for me and i do NOT want to make such posts . but the bullshit doesnt end
for what it is worth . we Kurds can be modelled as roughly 66% Iranian Jewish + 34% North Caucasus
the "north caucasus" are from several north caucasus sources . aggregated
Target: Kurdish
Distance: 2.1349% / 0.02134886
66.0 Iranian_Jew
34.0 North_Caucasus
and this is the G25 ethnicity list for Iranian Jewish
Distance to: Iranian_Jew
0.01294319 Mountain_Jew
0.01731627 Kurdish_Jew
0.02047029 Assyrian
0.02210132 Iraqi_Jew
0.02221884 Georgian_Jew
0.02921144 Mountain_Jew_o
0.02982818 Armenian_Urfa
0.03355511 Armenian_Erzurum
0.03442616 Armenian_Aintab
0.03498720 Lebanese_Druze
0.03540616 Bukharian_Jew
0.03545690 Druze
0.03574465 Armenian_Gesaria
0.03738798 Armenian_Syunik
0.03855531 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04041726 Syrian
0.04269454 Georgian_Meskheti
0.04280292 Iraqi
0.04395221 Karaite_Egypt
0.04482742 Kurdish
0.04492096 Lebanese_Christian
0.04663341 Greek_Cappadocia
0.04676346 Ezid
0.04823298 Turkish_East
0.04869711 Iranian_Lor
0.04886770 Syrian_Jew
0.04986246 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.05058084 Udi
0.05076410 Turkish_Trabzon
0.05160872 Cypriot
0.05305454 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.05467952 Greek_Trabzon
0.05507171 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.05597921 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.05646825 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.05649723 Turkish_Kayseri
0.05819455 Azerbaijani
0.05981780 Samaritan
0.06029977 Turkish_Adana
0.06041121 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.06357526 Iranian_Fars
0.06396183 Jordanian
0.06546211 Iranian_Persian_Shiraz
0.06621881 Greek_Dodecanese
0.06657148 Georgian_Kakh
0.06745192 Romaniote_Jew
0.06763895 Georgian_Laz
0.06851961 Palestinian
0.06958816 Turkish_Central
0.06961453 Greek_Kos
0.01294319 Mountain_Jew
0.01731627 Kurdish_Jew
0.02047029 Assyrian
0.02210132 Iraqi_Jew
0.02221884 Georgian_Jew
0.02921144 Mountain_Jew_o
0.02982818 Armenian_Urfa
0.03355511 Armenian_Erzurum
0.03442616 Armenian_Aintab
0.03498720 Lebanese_Druze
0.03540616 Bukharian_Jew
0.03545690 Druze
0.03574465 Armenian_Gesaria
0.03738798 Armenian_Syunik
0.03855531 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04041726 Syrian
0.04269454 Georgian_Meskheti
0.04280292 Iraqi
0.04395221 Karaite_Egypt
0.04482742 Kurdish
0.04492096 Lebanese_Christian
0.04663341 Greek_Cappadocia
0.04676346 Ezid
0.04823298 Turkish_East
0.04869711 Iranian_Lor
0.04886770 Syrian_Jew
0.04986246 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.05058084 Udi
0.05076410 Turkish_Trabzon
0.05160872 Cypriot
0.05305454 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.05467952 Greek_Trabzon
0.05507171 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.05597921 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.05646825 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.05649723 Turkish_Kayseri
0.05819455 Azerbaijani
0.05981780 Samaritan
0.06029977 Turkish_Adana
0.06041121 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.06357526 Iranian_Fars
0.06396183 Jordanian
0.06546211 Iranian_Persian_Shiraz
0.06621881 Greek_Dodecanese
0.06657148 Georgian_Kakh
0.06745192 Romaniote_Jew
0.06763895 Georgian_Laz
0.06851961 Palestinian
0.06958816 Turkish_Central
0.06961453 Greek_Kos
^ many of the populations on the list like Lebanese_Druze , Druze etc. (who are in the top 10 on top of the list ) are heavily whitewashed in anthroforums
and i also have seen shelati the cocksucker asking for classification for an iranian jew saying that he looks " more levantine and even south italian than iranian" . i think iranian jews would also be whitewashed and be presented as if they are a lot lighter than other iranians and of course waaaay whiter than Kurds . simply because they are jews and because they get an oracle like above
so we kurds are like 66% iranian jew but have a northern shift to north caucasus with 33 % . so now think about it . as you know we are one of the most darkwashed and misportrayed people on the internet . how does this genetical modelling make us punjabis ? logic ? doesnt it ring a bell ? doesnt anybody see that something really fucked up is going on ?
levantines and jews are sooooo light and vikings of west asia , north caucasus are lighter and have more east european and less southwest asian than northern west asians to their south . and they are even geographically in europe
Kurds can be modelled as a mix of both but hey they are gypsoid and punjabi like and VERY dark and exotic . yeah right
that Didac guy from TA . tell him to be quite about kurds . he is spewing bullshit . bring him here
when will this shit end . when will people shut the fuck up ? it is really getting ridiculous . this shit goes on for YEARS . thread after thread after thread after thread
i am sick of talking about it . no it is NOT fun for me and i do NOT want to make such posts . but the bullshit doesnt end
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I don't know about Iranian Jews but you can take a look at Georgian Jews. I doubt Iranian Jews look much different from Geo Jews so if you are going to say that a lot of Geo Jews look Georgian or Armenian then probably the same applies to iranian Jews and I didn't expect to hear that Jew bullshit from you...
what bullshit do you mean ?
iranian jews look different from geo jews
and i am not darkwashing iranian jews . they are mostly not exotic anyway