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post your top 100 population distances from the updated G25 modern population list (scaled)

Kurdquistador

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Mesoman said:
You should also use the updated assyrian and armenian averages with outliers excluded so that it gives you a better picture of what your distances are. I wish someone excluded the outliers from georgian jewish averages.
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can you give me the coordinates of them
 
Ben Dover

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skidrow said:
can you give me the coordinates of them
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Sure. Here they are:
Assyrian,0.097888,0.13214575,-0.06335625,-0.063429125,-0.03142875,-0.018790375,0.005933875,-0.005538125,-0.022932125,-0.003485125,0.00408,-0.002660125,0.007265875,-0.00079125,-0.00408875,0.00949675,-0.00074975,0.001219375,0.000895625,-0.00439275,-0.003837,0.0026275,0.000308125,-0.001852625,0.004236125

Armenian,0.104907,0.13625,-0.055311,-0.056364,-0.029441,-0.013062,0.004034,-0.005846,-0.031906,-0.007684,-0.000677,0.001574,-0.005154,0.005757,-0.004592,-0.007292,-0.004911,-0.000423,0.003813,-0.005836,0.002142,0.002803,0.000719,-0.004197,0.000858
 
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Distance to:cs_scaled
0.02480012Dersim
0.02575303Syrian_Kurd
0.02661274Bukharian_Jew
0.02718934Ezid
0.02930760Kurdish
0.02952615Iranian_Lor
0.03090633Azerbaijani
0.03116322Turkish_East
0.03179426Iranian_Persian_North
0.03297424Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.03307640Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.03803817Iranian_Azeri
0.03838570Mountain_Jew
0.03970495Turkish_Kayseri
0.04055661Turkish_Adana
0.04108064Georgian_Jew
0.04172481Iranian_Jew
0.04395400Assyrian
0.04543668Udi
0.04578817Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.04824266Armenian
0.04890741Georgian_Meskheti
0.04923976Turkish_Central
0.05079313Armenian_Erzurum
0.05287747Kurdish_Jew
0.05336810Iranian_Mazandarani
0.05445024Iraqi
0.05509439Iranian_Arab_Khuzestan
0.05613703Syrian_West
0.05916814Iraqi_Jew
0.06139318Turkish_Trabzon
0.06158229Lebanese_Muslim
0.06277277Greek_Cappadocia
0.06281950Lebanese_Druze
0.06347825Georgian_Kakheti
0.06348182Armenian_Hemsheni
0.06349589Georgian_Kartli
0.06376672Druze
0.06478491Greek_Trabzon
0.06605677Turkish_North
0.06619833Ahiska
0.06686535Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.07009573Turkish_South
0.07046910Kumyk
0.07050390Karaite_Egypt
0.07054235Syrian_Jew
0.07104518Georgian_Khevsur
0.07124178Georgian_Laz
0.07133990Georgian_Tusheti
0.07164204Iraqi_Arab
0.07318699Turkish_Southwest
0.07386941Iranian_Persian_East
0.07559539Cypriot
0.07598095Lebanese_Christian
0.07688274Syrian_East
0.07926697Ingushian
0.07939598Greek_Dodecanese
0.07942192Sephardic_Jew_o
0.07953270Kabardin
0.07963547Turkish_Northwest
0.07970136Georgian_Adjar
0.08002601Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.08077035Karachay
0.08088697Parsi_Pakistan
0.08110363Greek_Kos
0.08125253Circassian
0.08203861Adygei
0.08264442Cherkes
0.08313522Abkhasian
0.08321282Chechen
0.08332378Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.08337354Jordanian
0.08364104Parsi_India
0.08409389Greek_Crete
0.08425766North_Ossetian
0.08455537Balkar
0.08505520Ossetian
0.08519140Abazin
0.08566203Romaniote_Jew
0.08602491Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.08615819Georgian_Imereti
0.08660328Tabasaran
0.08666545Ashkenazi_Russia
0.08755152Iranian_Bandari
0.08758523Ashkenazi_Poland
0.08769412Sephardic_Jew
0.08837653Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.08905684Ashkenazi_Germany
0.08946792Palestinian
0.09086083Georgian_Megrelia
0.09228202Italian_Jew
0.09247271Italian_Calabria
0.09383941Samaritan
0.09423464Libyan_Jew
0.09472640Georgian_Svan
0.09494720Avar
0.09497014Lak
0.09529037Tajik_Yagnobi
0.09562331Italian_Campania
0.09564791Kaitag
 
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skidrow said:
Distance to:cs_scaled
0.02480012Dersim
0.02575303Syrian_Kurd
0.02661274Bukharian_Jew
0.02718934Ezid
0.02930760Kurdish
0.02952615Iranian_Lor
0.03090633Azerbaijani
0.03116322Turkish_East
0.03179426Iranian_Persian_North
0.03297424Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.03307640Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.03803817Iranian_Azeri
0.03838570Mountain_Jew
0.03970495Turkish_Kayseri
0.04055661Turkish_Adana
0.04108064Georgian_Jew
0.04172481Iranian_Jew
0.04395400Assyrian
0.04543668Udi
0.04578817Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.04824266Armenian
0.04890741Georgian_Meskheti
0.04923976Turkish_Central
0.05079313Armenian_Erzurum
0.05287747Kurdish_Jew
0.05336810Iranian_Mazandarani
0.05445024Iraqi
0.05509439Iranian_Arab_Khuzestan
0.05613703Syrian_West
0.05916814Iraqi_Jew
0.06139318Turkish_Trabzon
0.06158229Lebanese_Muslim
0.06277277Greek_Cappadocia
0.06281950Lebanese_Druze
0.06347825Georgian_Kakheti
0.06348182Armenian_Hemsheni
0.06349589Georgian_Kartli
0.06376672Druze
0.06478491Greek_Trabzon
0.06605677Turkish_North
0.06619833Ahiska
0.06686535Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.07009573Turkish_South
0.07046910Kumyk
0.07050390Karaite_Egypt
0.07054235Syrian_Jew
0.07104518Georgian_Khevsur
0.07124178Georgian_Laz
0.07133990Georgian_Tusheti
0.07164204Iraqi_Arab
0.07318699Turkish_Southwest
0.07386941Iranian_Persian_East
0.07559539Cypriot
0.07598095Lebanese_Christian
0.07688274Syrian_East
0.07926697Ingushian
0.07939598Greek_Dodecanese
0.07942192Sephardic_Jew_o
0.07953270Kabardin
0.07963547Turkish_Northwest
0.07970136Georgian_Adjar
0.08002601Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.08077035Karachay
0.08088697Parsi_Pakistan
0.08110363Greek_Kos
0.08125253Circassian
0.08203861Adygei
0.08264442Cherkes
0.08313522Abkhasian
0.08321282Chechen
0.08332378Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.08337354Jordanian
0.08364104Parsi_India
0.08409389Greek_Crete
0.08425766North_Ossetian
0.08455537Balkar
0.08505520Ossetian
0.08519140Abazin
0.08566203Romaniote_Jew
0.08602491Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.08615819Georgian_Imereti
0.08660328Tabasaran
0.08666545Ashkenazi_Russia
0.08755152Iranian_Bandari
0.08758523Ashkenazi_Poland
0.08769412Sephardic_Jew
0.08837653Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.08905684Ashkenazi_Germany
0.08946792Palestinian
0.09086083Georgian_Megrelia
0.09228202Italian_Jew
0.09247271Italian_Calabria
0.09383941Samaritan
0.09423464Libyan_Jew
0.09472640Georgian_Svan
0.09494720Avar
0.09497014Lak
0.09529037Tajik_Yagnobi
0.09562331Italian_Campania
0.09564791Kaitag
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I am curious about how you could be closer to sephardic and ashkenazi jews than to samaritans?
 
Kurdquistador

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because i have a lot less natufian than samaritans and i have EHG . ashkenazis and sephardis have a lot less natufian and more EHG than samaritans
 
Ben Dover

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It is plausible that iranian jews have absorbed some iranian admixture but in low quantities
 
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by the way you said that a distance of 4 is not close . thats not true trust me . it is close . just not VERY close . even a distance of like 6-7 is fairly close .

estonians get swedes at a distance of 6.3 .

irish get poles at a distance of 6.6

and we always get stuck up in our throats how europeans are so close to each other on places like TA and that when you cross the bosporus that people are a completely other race than muh yuropz

go on and run europeans through the spreadsheet and look at their distances
 
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skidrow said:
by the way you said that a distance of 4 is not close . thats not true trust me . it is close . just not VERY close .
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I still think that it isn't "close" but what does me saying that 0.04 distance in g25 isn't close have to do with Iranian jews almost having the same distance to you as georgian jews?
The rest that you mentioned was completely irrelevant to what I had said previously.
 
Kurdquistador

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there are many new Georgian / Abkhazian and Greek samples in G25

here are my distances to them :


Distance to: cs_scaled

0.04108064 Georgian_Jew
0.04890741 Georgian_Meskheti
0.06277277 Greek_Cappadocia
0.06347825 Georgian_Kakheti
0.06349589 Georgian_Kartli
0.06465288 Georgian_Samtckhe
0.06478491 Greek_Trabzon
0.06686535 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.06980894 Georgian_Javakheti
0.07104518 Georgian_Khevsur
0.07124178 Georgian_Laz
0.07133990 Georgian_Tusheti
0.07291736 Georgian_NorthEast
0.07662824 Georgian_Lechkhumi
0.07939598 Greek_Dodecanese
0.07969253 Georgian_Mtiuleti
0.07970136 Georgian_Ajar
0.08110363 Greek_Kos
0.08392273 Abkhasian
0.08409389 Greek_Crete
0.08615819 Georgian_Imereti
0.08627487 Abkhasian_Gudauta
0.08675142 Georgian_Ratcha
0.08808387 Georgian_West
0.08854714 Georgian_Guria
0.09080139 Georgian_Svaneti
0.09086083 Georgian_Megrelia
0.09397319 Greek_Deep_Mani
0.09737441 Greek_Izmir
0.09811882 Greek_South_Tsakonia
0.10164307 Greek_North_Tsakonia
0.10432892 Greek_East_Taygetos
0.10435451 Greek_Laconia
0.10636615 Greek_Elis
0.10720005 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10791984 Greek_Argolis
0.10795190 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.10818087 Greek_Corinthia
0.10831046 Greek_Messenia
0.10846310 Greek_Arcadia
0.10890629 Greek_Achaea
0.11309719 Greek_Thessaly
0.11337695 Greek_Macedonia
0.11556726 Greek_Central_Macedonia
 
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vengeance said:
there are many new Georgian / Abkhazian and Greek samples in G25

here are my distances to them :


Distance to: cs_scaled

0.04108064 Georgian_Jew
0.04890741 Georgian_Meskheti
0.06277277 Greek_Cappadocia
0.06347825 Georgian_Kakheti
0.06349589 Georgian_Kartli
0.06465288 Georgian_Samtckhe
0.06478491 Greek_Trabzon
0.06686535 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.06980894 Georgian_Javakheti
0.07104518 Georgian_Khevsur
0.07124178 Georgian_Laz
0.07133990 Georgian_Tusheti
0.07291736 Georgian_NorthEast
0.07662824 Georgian_Lechkhumi
0.07939598 Greek_Dodecanese
0.07969253 Georgian_Mtiuleti
0.07970136 Georgian_Ajar
0.08110363 Greek_Kos
0.08392273 Abkhasian
0.08409389 Greek_Crete
0.08615819 Georgian_Imereti
0.08627487 Abkhasian_Gudauta
0.08675142 Georgian_Ratcha
0.08808387 Georgian_West
0.08854714 Georgian_Guria
0.09080139 Georgian_Svaneti
0.09086083 Georgian_Megrelia
0.09397319 Greek_Deep_Mani
0.09737441 Greek_Izmir
0.09811882 Greek_South_Tsakonia
0.10164307 Greek_North_Tsakonia
0.10432892 Greek_East_Taygetos
0.10435451 Greek_Laconia
0.10636615 Greek_Elis
0.10720005 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10791984 Greek_Argolis
0.10795190 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.10818087 Greek_Corinthia
0.10831046 Greek_Messenia
0.10846310 Greek_Arcadia
0.10890629 Greek_Achaea
0.11309719 Greek_Thessaly
0.11337695 Greek_Macedonia
0.11556726 Greek_Central_Macedonia
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I had no idea. Thanks for posting this bro. I am also waiting for some new armenian averages to be released
 
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i ran them all in a model . i included myself and also Romanian because of reasons (we talked about the Georgian Romanian overlap in another thread for example)


Target: Romanian
Distance: 4.0215% / 0.04021475
54.8 Barcin_N
17.2 EHG
14.8 SHG
12.4 CHG
0.8 Iran_N


Target: Abkhasian_Gudauta
Distance: 2.8428% / 0.02842801
57.6 CHG
30.6 Barcin_N
6.0 Natufian
3.8 EHG
1.8 Iran_N
0.2 Mongoloid



Target: Abkhasian
Distance: 2.5742% / 0.02574157
59.0 CHG
31.0 Barcin_N
5.8 Natufian
2.4 EHG
1.8 Mongoloid


Target: vengeance_the_Boss
Distance: 4.1007% / 0.04100675
39.0 Barcin_N
34.6 Iran_N
11.0 CHG
7.4 Natufian
5.8 EHG
2.2 Mongoloid



Target: Georgian_West
Distance: 2.6902% / 0.02690160
58.6 CHG
34.0 Barcin_N
5.0 Natufian
2.4 Iran_N



Target: Georgian_Tusheti
Distance: 3.2620% / 0.03261964
45.2 CHG
34.8 Barcin_N
9.4 EHG
9.2 Iran_N
1.4 Natufian



Target: Georgian_Svaneti
Distance: 2.6311% / 0.02631053
61.8 CHG
30.2 Barcin_N
4.2 Natufian
2.2 EHG
1.4 Mongoloid
0.2 Iran_N



Target: Georgian_Samtckhe
Distance: 2.9474% / 0.02947364
40.4 Barcin_N
40.0 CHG
14.2 Iran_N
5.4 Natufian



Target: Georgian_Ratcha
Distance: 3.2859% / 0.03285909
57.6 CHG
31.8 Barcin_N
7.0 Natufian
3.6 Iran_N



Target: Georgian_NorthEast
Distance: 3.7310% / 0.03731007
49.4 CHG
32.0 Barcin_N
6.6 EHG
6.4 Iran_N
5.6 Natufian



Target: Georgian_Mtiuleti
Distance: 3.9157% / 0.03915744
50.8 CHG
35.8 Barcin_N
7.4 Iran_N
4.4 EHG
1.2 Natufian
0.4 AASI



Target: Georgian_Meskheti
Distance: 3.5404% / 0.03540393
44.6 Barcin_N
26.6 CHG
21.8 Iran_N
6.0 Natufian
1.0 EHG



Target: Georgian_Megrelia
Distance: 2.6466% / 0.02646647
61.8 CHG
32.2 Barcin_N
5.4 Natufian
0.6 Iran_N



Target: Georgian_Lechkhumi
Distance: 2.8224% / 0.02822410
53.0 CHG
32.8 Barcin_N
7.4 Natufian
5.6 Iran_N
0.8 Mongoloid
0.4 AASI



Target: Georgian_Laz
Distance: 3.0000% / 0.02999974
44.6 CHG
41.0 Barcin_N
9.0 Iran_N
5.4 Natufian



Target: Georgian_Khevsur
Distance: 3.4805% / 0.03480521
45.8 CHG
32.4 Barcin_N
9.6 Iran_N
9.0 EHG
3.2 Natufian



Target: Georgian_Kartli
Distance: 3.3785% / 0.03378493
44.6 CHG
36.2 Barcin_N
10.6 Iran_N
5.6 Natufian
3.0 EHG



Target: Georgian_Kakheti
Distance: 2.7750% / 0.02774989
42.4 CHG
37.0 Barcin_N
13.0 Iran_N
5.8 Natufian
1.8 EHG



Target: Georgian_Jew
Distance: 3.5940% / 0.03593981
39.6 Barcin_N
24.8 Iran_N
19.6 CHG
13.8 Natufian
2.2 EHG



Target: Georgian_Javakheti
Distance: 3.1506% / 0.03150608
44.2 CHG
38.6 Barcin_N
12.8 Iran_N
4.4 Natufian



Target: Georgian_Imereti
Distance: 2.9142% / 0.02914186
57.2 CHG
34.2 Barcin_N
4.8 Natufian
3.8 Iran_N



Target: Georgian_Guria
Distance: 2.9949% / 0.02994944
58.6 CHG
32.6 Barcin_N
7.4 Natufian
1.4 Iran_N



Target: Georgian_Ajar
Distance: 3.0050% / 0.03005005
52.0 CHG
36.4 Barcin_N
6.2 Iran_N
5.4 Natufian
 
Ben Dover

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Why do Rachan and Gurian samples get the highest natufian scores? Also, georgian_meskheti isn't an ethnic georgian population. They are mushkis.
 
Kurdquistador

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by the way

Kurds are basically Georgian Highlander + Levantine Christian + some extra Iran N

Target: Kurdish
Distance: 1.4866% / 0.01486574 | R4P
41.8 Georgian_Tusheti
40.0 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
16.8 extra_Iran_N
1.4 Mongoloid
 
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