which ethnicities do I look and which would i pass as ?

[Ben Dover]

thanks for posting . can you list ALL ethnicities that i look / pass please ?

I think you have a phenotype that only really passes in specific regions. From my perspective you pass best as a Kurd since that's what you are. After that as Iranian, Cyprus, Lebanon to an extent, Atypical Assyrian, Armenian more or less, SE Georgian but as atypical. In my rather unpopular opinion, you could pass as some sort of ancient Greek type.

 

[Kurdquistador]

I think you have a phenotype that only really passes in specific regions. From my perspective you pass best as a Kurd since that's what you are. After that as Iranian, Cyprus, Lebanon to an extent, Atypical Assyrian, Armenian more or less, SE Georgian but as atypical. In my rather unpopular opinion, you could pass as some sort of ancient Greek type.

bro dont you think you might be influenced by knowing what i am ? there is no way i would be atypical in armenia for example

 

[Ben Dover]

bro dont you think you might be influenced by knowing what i am ? there is no way i would be atypical in armenia for example

You are probably right, but I still stand with my opinion. Armenians are also diverse in looks in general. Hemshin Armenians for example are going to be closer in looks to Eastern Armenians than to Western Armenians. In a crowd of western armenians you would moderately pass, not really atypical, but not necessarily typical either. I also wrote a response to your latest comment on my thread.

 

[Kurdquistador]

You are probably right, but I still stand with my opinion. Armenians are also diverse in looks in general. Hemshin Armenians for example are going to be closer in looks to Eastern Armenians than to Western Armenians. In a crowd of western armenians you would moderately pass, not really atypical, but not necessarily typical either. I also wrote a response to your latest comment on my thread.

hmmm . i actually think armenia including eastern armenia is one of my best fits tbh lol . most armenians i asked told me i pass very easily . and armenian is one of the most frequent guesses i get

what about georgian ? i have looked into many pics and videos of georgians and have also seen many facebook profiles of them ( i sometimes look into profiles of ethnic groups on facebook to get even better in taxonomy ) and from what i can see i pass easily there too

 

[Ben Dover]

hmmm . i actually think armenia including eastern armenia is one of my best fits tbh lol . most armenians i asked told me i pass very easily . and armenian is one of the most frequent guesses i get

what about georgian ? i have looked into many pics and videos of georgians and have also seen many facebook profiles of them ( i sometimes look into profiles of ethnic groups on facebook to get even better in taxonomy ) and from what i can see i pass easily there too

When it comes to georgians, as I said before you can pass in SE Georgia but not as a typical one from my viewpoint. In the western part of the country tho it is going to be a little bit more difficult for you to pass there. They got a lot of pontid types there in addition to mtebid and a few of them can also be north pontid. I have seen very few of them passing in the balkan peninsula.

 

[Kurdquistador]

but as far as i have seen i pass quite well in adjara tbh . ...from the people i saw

also in meskhetia easily too

and likely also in shida kartli . kvemo kartli . and kakheti

 

[Ben Dover]

but as far as i have seen i pass quite well in adjara tbh . ...from the people i saw

also in meskhetia easily too

and likely also in shida kartli . kvemo kartli . and kakheti

I don't know about adjara but if you pass well in armenia then you can also pass well in meskhet-javakheti. They resemble eastern armenians a lot in looks and are genetically very close to them. Shida kartli, kvemo kartli and kakheti are also possibilities as i discussed earlier. kvemo kartli and khakheti, especially kvemo kartli has some towns with significant azeri population so in the entire georgia you would pass there the best.

 

[Kurdquistador]

I don't know about adjara but if you pass well in armenia then you can also pass well in meskhet-javakheti. They resemble eastern armenians a lot in looks and are genetically very close to them. Shida kartli, kvemo kartli and kakheti are also possibilities as i discussed earlier. kvemo kartli and khakheti, especially kvemo kartli has some towns with significant azeri population so in the entire georgia you would pass there the best.

but i am talking about passing as ethnic georgian . not azeri . lol

by the way i can tell you 100% that i can pass as laz . i am from turkey and know how they look and i also asked a laz member on another forum he said i pass

 

[Ben Dover]

but i am talking about passing as ethnic georgian . not azeri . lol

by the way i can tell you 100% that i can pass as laz . i am from turkey and know how they look and i also asked a laz member on another forum he said i pass

if a laz person told you that then you pass among them.

didn't I tell you that you can pass among SE Georgians but not typically like at least in 2 posts? lmao

 

[Kurdquistador]

if a laz person told you that then you pass among them.

didn't I tell you that you can pass among SE Georgians but not typically like at least in 2 posts? lmao

yes lol i know

but to be honest i think i would pass even in places like imereti and svaneti and maybe tusheti as an atypical person . correct me if i am wrong

also what about georgian jew ? they are pretty close to me genetically . would i pass as one ?

 

[Ben Dover]

yes lol i know

but to be honest i think i would pass even in places like imereti and svaneti and maybe tusheti as an atypical person . correct me if i am wrong

also what about georgian jew ? they are pretty close to me genetically . would i pass as one ?

to get approval and precise answer about whether or not you pass as western georgians, I am not the guy who you can rely on. I think western georgians can provide you with a better answer about that question. Are georgian jews really that close to you? because I saw your g25 pop distances and they weren't that close to you. Georgian jews can be modeled as assyrians shifted towards anatolia and caucasus. What I am trying to say is that they are a bit northern shifted than assyrians as they tend to be closer to armenians, eastern balck sea people and georgians than assyrians are are to these populations. I think you could pass among georgian jews but if I had seen you in a georgian jewish crowd I would question your look. However, I have seen georgian jews who can very easily pass amongst kurds.

 

[Kurdquistador]

huh ? they are close to me

0.04108064 Georgian_Jew

0.04 is fairly close lol


"I have seen georgian jews who can very easily pass amongst kurds."

maaan bro . you are biased (without bad intention) because you know already what i am . it is also possible that you have a wrong idea about kurds in your head like many people . who we are what we look like etc. . you might want to check the kurdish threads here to imrpvove your knowledge

anyway ....one more thing i would like to ask you and i will do the same for you later too . can you list all ethnicities that i look / pass chronologically from the top being the best fit and the bottom the worst fit / atypical but still passable

 

[Ben Dover]

huh ? they are close to me

0.04108064 Georgian_Jew

0.04 is fairly close lol


"I have seen georgian jews who can very easily pass amongst kurds."

maaan bro . you are biased (without bad intention) because you know already what i am . it is also possible that you have a wrong idea about kurds in your head like many people . who we are what we look like etc. . you might want to check the kurdish threads here to imrpvove your knowledge

anyway ....one more thing i would like to ask you and i will do the same for you later too . can you list all ethnicities that i look / pass chronologically from the top being the best fit and the bottom the worst fit / atypical but still passable

I disagree that 0.041 is a fairly close distance but even if you were right and georgian jews were fairly close to you genetically, it doesn't make you pass as a typical georgian jew lmao. When I said that I would question your looks if I saw you in a crowd of georgian jews, I meant that you wouldn't look like a typical georgian jew. Other than that you can moderately pass as a georgian jew. I mean after all I think I have seen more pure blooded georgian jews than you have Also,what makes me biased? my previous comment or the fact that I hold the opinions you disagree with? After all we are talking about phenotypes which isn't always going to be one and only way. I know who kurds are and I somewhat know what kurds look like even though there is a diversity among different kurdish subgroups in different regions.

I gotta be honest with you. I don't view myself as being good at classifications and phenotypes, I am pretty sure you are more educated about that stuff than I am. Then again, I would like to hear your opinion about what pure georgian jews look like (don't include me because I am not a pure one).
And yeah I forgot to mention something. Even that 0.41 distance you get to georgian jews isn't really accurate because one of the individuals included in the average is probably a bukharan jew and that messes up the total average. Also, geo jewish average on g25 includes some kurdish/iranian and iraqi jewish like individuals so that also messes up the whole average.

Here is the list from best to worst based on my observation.
1. kurdish
2.bukharan jews(again, not because they are close to you but they bear close resemblance to kurds in looks.)
3.eastern turks
4.iranian
5.armenian (republic)
6.georgian jews
7.assyrians
8.cypriots
9.eastern georgians
10.eastern black sea people
11.lebanese
12.north-west georgians(svans, mingrelians)

It is probably a shitty list but whatever I think I was as fair as possible in my mind.

 

[Kurdquistador]

Here is the list from best to worst based on my observation.
1. kurdish
2.bukharan jews(again, not because they are close to you but they bear close resemblance to kurds in looks.)
3.eastern turks
4.iranian
5.armenian (republic)
6.georgian jews
7.assyrians
8.cypriots
9.eastern georgians
10.eastern black sea people
11.lebanese
12.north-west georgians(svans, mingrelians)

It is probably a shitty list but whatever I think I was as fair as possible in my mind.

ok thanks . i dont need to know more . so it seems i can only pass as another ethnicity when they are kurdish looking or have kurdish looking people . lol . which is nonsense of course . but hey you did your best

also no way iran before armenia and cyprus

but anyway . thank you . i will make a list for you tomorrow

 

[Ben Dover]

ok thanks . i dont need to know more . so it seems i can only pass as another ethnicity when they are kurdish looking or have kurdish looking people . lol . which is nonsense of course . but hey you did your best

also no way iran before armenia and cyprus

but anyway . thank you . i will make a list for you tomorrow

okay then you are welcome.

 

[Kurdquistador]

by the way this is roughly how i would place myself . before someone screams because of the italian and balkan placings .....i am only going by what people (including people from those places) told me and what i get guessed by people and what i myself see etc. . . it is on the bottom so the owd police will probably pardon me


best fits : kurdish , anatolian turkish , armenian , cypriot , azerbaijani , north / northwest iranian



decent fits but not the first options : laz, north syrian , georgian (mostly south and east) , lebanese , assyrian , bukharan jew , caucasus jew , pontic greek



okay fits but already on the atypical side : greek islands , jordanian , caucasoid tajik , coastal tunisian , northern egyptian , palestinian , sephardic jew , iraqi, ossetian



pass only as an atypical person . only a very small minority of the population will look like me : maltese , sicilian , calabrian , bulgarian , romanian , dagestani , ashkenazi , saudi

 

[Ben Dover]

by the way this is roughly how i would place myself . before someone screams because of the italian and balkan placings .....i am only going by what people (including people from those places) told me and what i get guessed by people and what i myself see etc. . . it is on the bottom so the owd police will probably pardon me


best fits : kurdish , anatolian turkish , armenian , cypriot , azerbaijani , north / northwest iranian



decent fits but not the first options : laz, north syrian , georgian (mostly south and east) , lebanese , assyrian , bukharan jew , caucasus jew , pontic greek



okay fits but already on the atypical side : greek islands , jordanian , caucasoid tajik , coastal tunisian , northern egyptian , palestinian , sephardic jew , iraqi, ossetian



pass only as an atypical person . only a very small minority of the population will look like me : maltese , sicilian , calabrian , bulgarian , romanian , dagestani , ashkenazi , saudi

Can you see the private chat? I got a question over there about which your answer would be interesting.

 

[Kurdquistador]

i am still overweight right now . i have to lose the weight and i am planning to buy a digital cam

my cams are shit . bad quality , and i look different in real life / mirror :

i also have tired eyes on the pic btw. . i will take some new ones soon

-edit-

 

[Kurdquistador]

with less tired eyes

but still fat and shitty cam

lol ok thats it .....i will not take any pics before i lose the weight . and i will get a good cam


by the way in my opinion i look quite jewish lol

 

[Ben Dover]

with less tired eyes

but still fat and shitty cam

lol ok thats it .....i will not take any pics before i lose the weight . and i will get a good cam


by the way in my opinion i look quite jewish lol

you mean ashkenazi?