where can my celebrity crush winona ryder pass ?

[Ben Dover]

southwest asian is southwest asian . ashkenazis get around lets say 15% southwest asian on average on k12b . so i dont see how they are arabian like with such a score .

Again, just because ashkenazi jews get 15% SW asian doesn't mean that they aren't 1/2 SW asian. For example, armenians and maybe a few kurds can score 15% SW asian but are both of these populations as levantine as ashkenazi jews ancestry wise? No.

Those southern levantines were much more southern than modern day northern levantines and even southern levantines probably. Even modern day southern levantines such as samaritans are considerably more southern than northern levantine groups such as druze, lebanese and alawites.

 

[Kurdquistador]

Again, just because ashkenazi jews get 15% SW asian doesn't mean that they aren't 1/2 SW asian. For example, armenians and maybe a few kurds can score 15% SW asian but are both of these populations as levantine as ashkenazi jews ancestry wise? No.

Those southern levantines were much more southern than modern day northern levantines and even southern levantines probably. Even modern day southern levantines such as samaritans are considerably more southern than northern levantine groups such as druze, lebanese and alawites.

this doesnt make any sense


a) you say ashkenazi jews are heavily ancient levantine wise

b) they dont score (much) more southwest asian than kurds . which would mean that if they have a lot of levantine ancestry then those ancient levantines would have been LESS southwest asian than modern day levantines but then you say ...

c) that the southern levantines that ashkenazis have ancestry from were more southern than modern day levantines


lol

 

[Ben Dover]

this doesnt make any sense


a) you say ashkenazi jews are heavily ancient levantine wise

b) they dont score (much) more southwest asian than kurds . which would mean that if they have a lot of levantine ancestry then those ancient levantines would have been LESS southwest asian than modern day levantines but then you say ...

c) that the southern levantines that ashkenazis have ancestry from were more southern than modern day levantines


lol

You should pay attention to what I say before you write this garbage lad. Don't mean to be an asshole but still...

 

[Kurdquistador]

i answered you to exactly what you wrote . and it doesnt make sense

 

[Ben Dover]

i answered you to exactly what you wrote . and it doesnt make sense

You didn't read the comment carefully. Just because ashkenazi jews score slightly more SW asian than kurds on average doesn't mean that they are just slightly more SW asian than kurds. Do you actually think that your people are almost as much SW asian as ashkenazis?

I also said that half of their total ancestry is ancient southern levantine. Another half is a mix of southern, western and eastern european.

Southern levantine ancestors of ashkenazi jews had left southern levant/modern day israel territory for 2000 years or so. That's a long time. Various migrations waves from northern west asian contributed to levantine genepool as a whole after the ancestors of ashkenazis left the region and then interbred with europeans.

 

[Kurdquistador]

i understood what you said i am not stupid

but you say that they have more ancient levantine ancestry than us ......which is ok i will not argue with that .....but then you say that those ancient levantines were MORE SOUTHERN than modern ones ....yet that doesnt make any sense because if that was the case then it would show in calculators and they wouldnt score only a little more southwest asian than us but they would score something like lets say 25% or something

if ashkenazi jews have more ancient levantine ancestry than us then those ancient levantines must have been more NORTHERN and not southern

 

[Ben Dover]

i understood what you said i am not stupid

but you say that they have more ancient levantine ancestry than us ......which is ok i will not argue with that .....but then you say that those ancient levantines were MORE SOUTHERN than modern ones ....yet that doesnt make any sense because if that was the case then it would show in calculators and they wouldnt score only a little more southwest asian than us but they would score something like lets say 25% or something

if ashkenazi jews have more ancient levantine ancestry than us then those ancient levantines must have been more NORTHERN and not southern

Ancient southern levantines were no more northern than what modern day southern levantines. It is quite the opposite actually. I did explain why ancient southern levant was more southern. I guess you missed that part.

When you are saying thay they would score 25% SW asian it is nonsense because modern day northern levantines score 25% SW asian and they are still heavily SW asian ancestry wise. Why would ashkenazi jews who are only 1/2 ancient southern levantine score as much SW asian as 100% northern levantines?

If you take half yemenite jew and half dutch person for example they are going to cluster with ashkenazis because of their admixture. Yemenite jews are obviously more southern than even ancient southern levantines and dutch are obviously more northern than whatever european ancestry ashkenazis have in total but they balance each other, hence why this specimen clusters closest to ashkenazis

 

[Kurdquistador]

but as i showed you ashkenazis score only around 14-17% southwest asian . not much more than kurds . so are we kurds more levantine or ashkenazis less levantine than you say / think ? one of it it has to be

 

[Ben Dover]

but as i showed you ashkenazis score only around 14-17% southwest asian . not much more than kurds . so are we kurds more levantine or ashkenazis less levantine than you say / think ? one of it it has to be

Ashkenazis are more levantine than kurds of course.

 

[Kurdquistador]

Ashkenazis are more levantine than kurds of course.

and again ....(lol ;D ) they score not much more sw-asian than us .....if they were so much levantine then they would score more . or let me phrase it differently . if the southern levantines were more southern then they would score a lot more

 

[Ben Dover]

and again ....(lol ;D ) they score not much more sw-asian than us .....if they were so much levantine then they would score more

Ancient southern levantines were no more northern than what modern day southern levantines. It is quite the opposite actually. I did explain why ancient southern levant was more southern. I guess you missed that part.

When you are saying thay they would score 25% SW asian it is nonsense because modern day northern levantines score 25% SW asian and they are still heavily SW asian ancestry wise. Why would ashkenazi jews who are only 1/2 ancient southern levantine score as much SW asian as 100% northern levantines?

If you take half yemenite jew and half dutch person for example they are going to cluster with ashkenazis because of their admixture. Yemenite jews are obviously more southern than even ancient southern levantines and dutch are obviously more northern than whatever european ancestry ashkenazis have in total but they balance each other, hence why this specimen clusters closest to ashkenazis

Did you not read what I said here?

 

[Ben Dover]

Then tell me how much levantine do you think kurds are?

 

[Kurdquistador]

Then tell me how much levantine do you think kurds are?

i dont know

my point is that if the ancient levantines were more southern than modern ones ....and you say that ashkenazis have a lot of this ancient "southern" shifted version of levant .....then they should score much more sw-asian than us kurds who we agree on have less levant than ashkenazis

wtf

 

[Ben Dover]

i dont know

my point is that if the ancient levantines were more southern than modern ones ....and you say that ashkenazis have a lot of this ancient "southern" shifted version of levant .....then they should score much more sw-asian than us kurds who we agree on have less levant than ashkenazis

wtf

Read this comment my guy😃

Ancient southern levantines were no more northern than what modern day southern levantines. It is quite the opposite actually. I did explain why ancient southern levant was more southern. I guess you missed that part.

When you are saying thay they would score 25% SW asian it is nonsense because modern day northern levantines score 25% SW asian and they are still heavily SW asian ancestry wise. Why would ashkenazi jews who are only 1/2 ancient southern levantine score as much SW asian as 100% northern levantines?

If you take half yemenite jew and half dutch person for example they are going to cluster with ashkenazis because of their admixture. Yemenite jews are obviously more southern than even ancient southern levantines and dutch are obviously more northern than whatever european ancestry ashkenazis have in total but they balance each other, hence why this specimen clusters closest to ashkenazis

 

[Kurdquistador]

i read that .....ffs

you dont seem to understand how you are logically wrong at this point

 

[Ben Dover]

i read that .....ffs

you dont seem to understand how you are logically wrong at this point

How am I logically wrong? You don't understand my point and keep saying the same eurogenes k12b thing about which I have talked about in the comment I quoted 2 times already. You don't seem to get what I am saying, therefore this discussion is pointless. In a nutshell, Winona Ryder is quarter ancient southern levantine and that's the end of the story😃

 

[Kurdquistador]

person a) scores 15% north european , person b) scores 16% north european

mesoman: "person b has a lot more viking ancestry than person a . and those ancient vikings were a lot more northern even than modern north europeans"

vengeance : "but if those vikings were so much more northern than modern ones then person b would score a lot more north european and not only 1% more than person a who has less viking ancestry than person b"

mesoman : "no . because fuck logic"

vengeance : "wtf"

 

[Ben Dover]

person a) scores 15% north european , person b) scores 16% north european

mesoman: "person b has a lot more viking ancestry than person a . and those ancient vikings were a lot more northern even than modern north europeans"

vengeance : "but if those vikings were so much more northern than modern ones then person b would score a lot more north european and not only 1% more than person a who has less viking ancestry than person b"

mesoman : "no . because fuck logic"

vengeance : "wtf"

That's a bad summary but okay. You didn't get my point.

 

[Kurdquistador]

anyway . what does she look like to you ? where can this beautiful creature pass etc ?

 

[Ben Dover]

anyway . what does she look like to you ? where can this beautiful creature pass etc ?

I think she can pass well in western europe. Her best pass is France imo. She is unlike me who was told that I look french with some north african admixture😀