Thoughs on anthroforum agendas.

[Marshall Ted]

Have you'all noticed that on anthroforuns it's common to see trolls mocking at southern europeans for having some type of non-euro ancestry, but nobody talks about non-euro side of central/north europeans (specially ANE)?

Why nobody talks about Nganassan? ANE? West Asian/CHG (even in most times the former coming from Steppe) etc.?

Does this happen just because all europeans have those components (except Nganassan), and thus, so speak, "less alien" to europe? or because they're more ancient than non-euro components from Southern euros?

 

[Ben Dover]

South Europeans getting trolled? If anything Southern Europeans are trolling West Asians and talk nonsense to whitewash themselves and deny any overlap with West Asians, especially Northern West Asians.

 

[Marshall Ted]

South Europeans getting trolled?

Yes, and its a common phenomenon in many forums, specially TA.

Idk about West Asians.

 

[idklolimo]

The answer is very simple. because southern Europeans are the southernmost Europeans... so they are usually trolled from the north and south.

 

[Kurdquistador]

i dont understand the question . who is mocking south europeans ?

 

[Ponto]

South Europeans getting trolled? If anything Southern Europeans are trolling West Asians and talk nonsense to whitewash themselves and deny any overlap with West Asians, especially Northern West Asians.

South Europeans and Levantines were trolled up until they discovered West Asians. Probably why Italicrooters pick on other Southern Europeans, sort of the disabled picking on the disfigured. I think the trollers are people who are basically New World Europeans of mixed West, North and Central European ancestry.
The Finns have that Nganassan type ancestry, so do a lot of Russians. It must have been a disappointment to them that the Steppe herders turned out to be so unphotogenic.
Anyway Urbanuss you just have to have your say and accept that you cannot do anything about the trolls other than ban them.
And yes, South Europeans do merge with West Asians in their looks as they have plenty of Anatolian farmer ancestors, and a whole heap of late Bronze age and Iron age West Asian ancestors, but who gives a shit about that?

 

[Marshall Ted]

i dont understand the question . who is mocking south europeans ?

Here? nobody.

But e.g. in The Apricity there's always some troll (usually latino or south asian) mocking at Iberians or Italians.

 

[Marshall Ted]

And yes, South Europeans do merge with West Asians in their looks as they have plenty of Anatolian farmer ancestors, and a whole heap of late Bronze age and Iron age West Asian ancestors, but who gives a shit about that?

Probably nordicists.

 

[Marshall Ted]

@Jingle Bell The Baiano
@Ivorix

Whats your opinions about It?

 

[Jingle Bell The Baiano]

@Jingle Bell The Baiano
@Ivorix

Whats your opinions about It?

Its mainly nordicist or complexed latinos which cant accept theyselves who usually do that to fell better, like some posters from TA
Yeah its pretty impresive how everyone wants talk abt NA in Iberians or extra CHG and Iran N on Italians but nobody remenbers that bcs the high EHG in N. Euros makes also mixed with non-euro stuff
Its just bruh when someone said that ancient romans and celtiberians were blond and the modern ones are half MENA thats why the are dark haired and eyed and blah blah blah, its always the same history "Romans raped MENA and thats why italians are mongrels not close to nordic romans" or "Moor dominated iberia for 800 years and raped everyone that why iberians are half MENA" or " Greeks are Turks and Gypsy and dont resembles the Nordic ancient ones" and etc . . . i myself think thats its just sad bcs spread false informations which can make honesty new memebers think that its true.
Dont get me wrong, ik iberia and Italy have some MENA input but isnt not even close what to actual ppl thinks, and Nordicists and others trolls takes advantages from the ignorance of ppl to spread more their falses arguments
nobody its a pure european, no one its 100% WHG, even the ones which have most (Balts) still have sometimes residual Siberian/Finn Ugric DNA (N Haplogroup and residual Nganassan in g25) which dont makes they 100% Euro, but who cares? everyone native to europe its european and should be treated like one, dont matters if he score 6% Natufian or 7% Taforalt or 5% Han bruh, Iberia is EVROPA, Italy its EVROPA, Uk is EVROPA, Sweden is EVROPA, Russia is EVROPA and some trolls dont will make that change, i just hope to trolls chill and notice that call S. Euros MENA its just stupidity.

 

[Ponto]

Certain groups of West Eurasians are accepted as more Caucasoid and White than others. And they do that by defining EHG, WHG and Anatolian farmers as true blue Whites, and those with CHG beyond that found in WSH, Iran farmers/pastoralist and Natufian/Levantine farmer ancestry as the colored folk. 23andMe does that in a way by showing Levantine farmer ancestry as Middle Eastern, and Iran farmer ancestry as West Asian, but for some reason they class Ashkenazi Jews as European.
It is normal for humans to discriminate against others who are different and to accept their group as the norm and superior and the others as aberrant and inferior. I have my opinions regarding how others see the EHG, Steppe herders even WHG. I see them as having their ancestral roots outside of Europe in humans who didn't look acceptably White.

 

[Ben Dover]

Yes, and its a common phenomenon in many forums, specially TA.

Idk about West Asians.

Southern Italians do get trolled on TA but I am not so sure about the entire Southern Europe.

West Asians are constantly getting trolled by both South Europeans and South Asians on forums

 

[Beowulf]

@Jingle Bell The Baiano
@Ivorix

Whats your opinions about It?

well me i joined these forums to learn new things if someone is trolling for example spaniards so i will ignore personally, i don't give a shit to them.

 

[idklolimo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypesSouthAsia/comments/10po0t3

She is Spanish/Iberian

 

[Kurdquistador]

https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypesSouthAsia/comments/10po0t3

She is Spanish/Iberian

^ she looks ZERO south asian . i told her this. that she does not . i was chatting with her some time ago and we placed each other . just lol

 

[Levantinesupremacist]

Remember that one Spanish guy on TA who only posted blonde Spaniards from the northeast region and children, who we all know tend to be lighter than the adults by default, and shits so hard on west Asians and always talks about Spaniards passing as British? He tried so hard to orientalize North Africans and west Asians. Even oddguidance did a poll asking if Spaniards pass better as Armenian or British and everyone said British. Also, why tf would anyone want to pass as British over Armenian anyways? Everyone knows that British people are known to be the ugliest people in Europe. U can’t tell me people like Marco acensio pass better as British than Armenian

 

[Levantinesupremacist]

To add to it, I feel what a lot of anthroforums fail at is to recognize that west Asia and south Europe has phenotypical diversity. Like with Spanish, you will find people who can pass as Maghreb better than Britain for example or some Spaniards can pass better as British and look nothing west Asian or North African. Forums like phenotypes try their hardest to white wash or dark wash south euros. Like I either see people posting Italians that look south Asian to people downvoting when some darker person is guessed as south euro, when they are actually south euro. Why can’t we just be in the middle?

 

[Marshall Ted]

Remember that one Spanish guy on TA who only posted blonde Spaniards from the northeast region and children, who we all know tend to be lighter than the adults by default, and shits so hard on west Asians and always talks about Spaniards passing as British? He tried so hard to orientalize North Africans and west Asians. Even oddguidance did a poll asking if Spaniards pass better as Armenian or British and everyone said British. Also, why tf would anyone want to pass as British over Armenian anyways? Everyone knows that British people are known to be the ugliest people in Europe. U can’t tell me people like Marco acensio pass better as British than Armenian

OddGuidance = Sikeliot reddit sock

Sikeliot is just a retard, idk why u treat his posts on TA as a dogma, and yes, its better to pass as British than armenians for two reasons:

- British are europeans
- Armenians are ugly

Of course a SW european pass much better as British rather than Armenian for obvious reasons, Marco Asensio is atypical.

 

[Marshall Ted]

To add to it, I feel what a lot of anthroforums fail at is to recognize that west Asia and south Europe has phenotypical diversity. Like with Spanish, you will find people who can pass as Maghreb better than Britain for example or some Spaniards can pass better as British and look nothing west Asian or North African. Forums like phenotypes try their hardest to white wash or dark wash south euros. Like I either see people posting Italians that look south Asian to people downvoting when some darker person is guessed as south euro, when they are actually south euro. Why can’t we just be in the middle?

The question is, how many Spaniards can pass as British compared to ones who pass in maghreb?

 

[idklolimo]

@FinalFlash