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There is no such thing as an Aryan race!

Kurdquistador

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i think there is . guti explained it well . we northwestern iranics are aryans

but i am ok if it doesnt exist too . thats fine with me .

because you have a lot of currycels on places like anthrogenica who act as if they are aryanz . it is ridiculous :D


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Ben Dover

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Aryan race isn't any different from semitic race.. certainly it doesn't exist since it is mostly related to the language group
 

ImHere

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He's right actually
There isnt anymore. But the first people who claimed to be aryans used to lived in around northern Russia. Earliest R1a sample found in Moscow.



Some reconstruction of from the same place(not likely the same person) of aryan culture(based on a statue.....better to focus on the statue):



But these people arent like modern europeans. They were nomadic and spread around east. Today aryan isnt racial at this point, though all aryans have ancestry from these nomads(wether very little to half of their ancestry being from these nomads)
 

ImHere

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i think there is . guti explained it well . we northwestern iranics are aryans

but i am ok if it doesnt exist too . thats fine with me .

because you have a lot of currycels on places like anthrogenica who act as if they are aryanz . it is ridiculous :D


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If theyre indo-aryans, they kind of are?
 

Ben Dover

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It's almost equivalent to steppe people. It depends on your definition of the race.
 

Ben Dover

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Ossetians are mostly CHG and their steppe isn't much more significant than that of other North Caucasians.
 

ImHere

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Just because a small part of their ancestry comes from Scythians doesn't really make them that
It does, if it came from their paternal ancestors, and they identify themselves with the aryan heritage.

Aryan, as you said yourself, aryan isnt a genetical group(though ALL actual aryans descends from these nomads), like semetic.
 

Ben Dover

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It does, if it came from their paternal ancestors, and they identify themselves with the aryan heritage.

Aryan, as you said yourself, aryan isnt a genetical group(though ALL actual aryans descends from these nomads), like semetic.
How does it matter if it's paternal or maternal ancestry and 5-10% in sheer volume.. This low amount of ancestry isn't enough to call yourself or consider yourself a part of that ethnicity
 

ImHere

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How does it matter if it's paternal or maternal ancestry and 5-10% in sheer volume.. This low amount of ancestry isn't enough to call yourself or consider yourself a part of that ethnicity
So aryans, like the persians, were wrong to call themselves aryans???


You put too much importance into admixture/%'s. It doesnt work like that. Being aryan just means being descendants of them. Its a cultural title, not an ethnicity, though all aryans share some aryan ancestry(cant be aryan with no aryan ancestry). It isnt like claiming to be ethnic german, and only being 1/4 german. Again, aryan isnt an ethnicity, but all aryans today shares some ancestry from nomad aryans.
 

Ben Dover

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So aryans, like the persians, were wrong to call themselves aryans???


You put too much importance into admixture/%'s. It doesnt work like that. Being aryan just means being descendants of them. Its a cultural title, not an ethnicity, though all aryans share some aryan ancestry(cant be aryan with no aryan ancestry). It isnt like claiming to be ethnic german, and only being 1/4 german. Again, aryan isnt an ethnicity, but all aryans today shares some ancestry from nomad aryans.
It's wiser to pay attention to the actual amount of ancestry rather than the culture inherited. Religion or culture for the most part shouldn't be an attribute that determines the ethnicity.

As for your German example, someone who is 1/4 German and claims to be ethnically German is more logical than a German claiming that he/she is Aryan in an ethnical sense and derives the ancestry from those Aryan nomads in single digits and uses the culture excuse for that. That 1/4 German person is also descended from Germans with much higher total German ancestry, especially if he/she was born in Germany.
 

Ben Dover

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To sum it up, the identification of the person's ethnicity shouldn't happen based on religion, culture or if they are descendants of the population from which they get small amounts of their total DNA
 
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