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The Kurds . Kurdish People gallery thread

Kurdquistador

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Kurdish translator from Hakkari




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Kurdquistador

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i am looking into gypsy stuff and am doin more research right now

ibrahim tatlises mother is gypsy apperently according to this gypsy man who tells about dom gypsies in the video . ibrahim tatlises is known as "Kurdish" lol

the man on left is from malatya and i dont know if he is a Kurd or Turk . he interviews this gypsy man about doms .....the man is very knowledged and gives a lot of information about doms and he says ibrahim tatlises mother is a dom

so ibrahim tatlises is half arab half gypsy . so not Kurdish at all if we believe the man in tthe video and indo believe him

his father could be iraqi kurd instead of arab maybe ....i read some say that . but i doubt it . pretty much everywhere it is known that his father is arab . either way the fact that he gets labeled as Kurdish everywhere and even gets accepted as stereotypical Kurd by people is just a fucking joke .

my people are fucking dumbasses . you cant even be sure about peoples origins anymore ....ibrahim tatlises is the best example lel

he says it at 26:39 listen from 26:39 to 27:05 if you understand turkish

he also says that doms are almost everywhere in east / southeast Turkey . he says "Malatyada dom doludur" which means Malatya is full with doms . Malatya is my neighbor province




also i made a classify thread about these 3 Dom gypsies from Kurdish region today



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Kurdquistador

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the man in the video also says that doms are almost everywhere in east / southeast Turkey . he says "Malatyada dom doludur" which means Malatya is full with doms . Malatya is my neighbor province
but from what i understand my homeprovince Tunceli / Dersim has very little gypsies

ON TOPIC let me post 2 videos of Tunceli people . Tunceli is predominantly Alevi Zaza Kurdish and Alevi Kurmanji Kurdish . i myself am a mix of the 2 (but more Kurmanji) . so most if not all of the people in the videos are most likely one of the 2 or a mix

i should post Kurds from my province more often . because despite what subanimals like zoro claim .....most Kurds i post are NOT from my province Dersim / Tunceli . only some are . haters and trolls always say i post only Kurds from my province / region even though most Kurds i post are not from my region . just lol . but i will post more Kurds from my region in the future . the reason being that i hesitated to post Kurds from my province because of the false accusations of trolls so i didnt want to confirm them by posting Kurds from my region too much . subanimals
here are G25 coordinates (averaged) of my homeprovince from the G25 database . if anybody wants to play around with them :


"Alevi_Dersim",0.0993513,0.1136669,-0.0552211,-0.0360606,-0.0375452,-0.0054582,0.005405,-0.0049613,-0.0291884,-0.0109861,0.0008931,0.0002034,-0.0010087,-0.0023494,0.0028113,0.0058244,-0.0029149,0.0026062,0.002568,-0.0085666,-0.0016489,-0.0041601,0.0008274,-0.0016526,0.0037464


this is the model i made lately . Fuckerz / Mesoman replaced Kotias with Satsurblia . we use it like that now (but the fit is better with Kotias . and the CHG score will be 20 with Kotias instead of 16 Satsu)


Target: Alevi_Dersim
Distance: 3.5879% / 0.03587930
35.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
30.8 Iran_N
16.0 Satsurblia_CHG
9.6 East_European_HG
7.0 Arabian_HG_Simulated
0.8 East_Eurasian
0.4 AASI


so anyway ON TOPIC : videos of Tunceli / Dersim people

 
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Kurdquistador

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thanks bro

by the way i found more information about our gypsies

there are apperently (OTHER THAN ROMANI) ....8 MILLION Abdal and Dom gypsies in Turkey (central and east / southeast turkey mainly) apperently

 

Ben Dover

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All these millions of Gypsies are unnoticed and unknown because they for the most part assimilate themselves and/or present themselves as Kurdish and/or Turkish right?
 

Kurdquistador

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All these millions of Gypsies are unnoticed and unknown because they for the most part assimilate themselves and/or present themselves as Kurdish and/or Turkish right?

it depends

they are often known to be gypsy and say they get often discriminated by Kurds

but many also larp yes

it is a mess really and i cant get this shit in order anymore

amazing though that even i didnt know about our gypsies until 3-4 years ago . just lol
 

Ben Dover

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But then again you also have Kurds, like the ones who were fighting you in the comments section on Youtube about that Gypsy dude with the instrument being Kurdish etc. It goes both ways, it is true that some pretend to be Kurdish/Turkish but the majority have to be larpers because there is no way that 1/10 of country's population is so unknown
 

Kurdquistador

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But then again you also have Kurds, like the ones who were fighting you in the comments section on Youtube about that Gypsy dude with the instrument being Kurdish etc. It goes both ways, it is true that some pretend to be Kurdish/Turkish but the majority have to be larpers because there is no way that 1/10 of country's population is so unknown

those Kurdish guys are hilarious . they dont only say that those gypsies are Kurds because of their ignorance about our gypsies . ...no ....they say that DOMS ARE KURDS n shiet :D lmfao

i also read comments from Kurds and Turks in the gypsy videos i am watching now and many speak like they would love the gpysies to mix with us etc

i am against hurting these people . and many of them the way they talk in the videos seem very nice . but i dont want them in Turkey . and even if i say ok for them to be in Turkey because of sympathy and since they are human beings of course .....i would be only okay with them if they dont mix with kurds and turks and if such a mix happens that the person doesnt claim to be Kurdish or Turkish only

like on reddit there is a guy i talked to who is 3/4 Kurdish and 1/4 gypsy but he only says he is Kurdish in his threads

i am sure that there are some people who have a Kurdish father and gypsy mother (who often can speak kurdish btw) they will just say they are Kurds and be in Kurdish rallies and festivals etc.
 

Ben Dover

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To be fair those 1/2 Gypsy-Kurds are still Kurdish enough to claim that they are Kurdish but it's about Gypsies being so different from Kurds phenotypically that when mixed people as such don't give the full info about their ancestry they mislead people whenever they make classification threads with the title classify and pass me (I am Kurdish). Anyway, they can live in Turkey and if Kurds consent to mixing with them then who are you to tell them not to do so but the larping shit is annoying, I get you on that because they are just too damn different from Kurds and Turks
 

Kurdquistador

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To be fair those 1/2 Gypsy-Kurds are still Kurdish enough to claim that they are Kurdish but it's about Gypsies being so different from Kurds phenotypically that when mixed people as such don't give the full info about their ancestry they mislead people whenever they make classification threads with the title classify and pass me (I am Kurdish). Anyway, they can live in Turkey and if Kurds consent to mixing with them then who are you to tell them not to do so but the larping shit is annoying, I get you on that because they are just too damn different from Kurds and Turks

someone who is half or even a quarter or even fucking 1/8 gypsy is not a Kurd anymore but a gypsy mixed Kurd

who i am ? i am the anthro boss of kurds hehehe
 

Ben Dover

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someone who is half or even a quarter or even fucking 1/8 gypsy is not a Kurd anymore but a gypsy mixed Kurd

who i am ? i am the anthro boss of kurds hehehe
but bro.. Kurds are very different from Dom gypsies sure but 1/2 is still a significant contribution to one's ancestry. They could say that they are mixed between Dom and Kurdish but they could also say (in some instances) that they are Kurdish or Dom Gypsy. But knowing that even purebred Dom Gypsies are larpers I am sure they will say that they are just Kurdish in all instances. btw, it would be funny if mixed Gypsy-Kurdish people are unaware that one of their parents may be non-Kurdish cuz of larping n shiet
 

Kurdquistador

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but bro.. Kurds are very different from Dom gypsies sure but 1/2 is still a significant contribution to one's ancestry. They could say that they are mixed between Dom and Kurdish but they could also say (in some instances) that they are Kurdish or Dom Gypsy. But knowing that even purebred Dom Gypsies are larpers I am sure they will say that they are just Kurdish in all instances. btw, it would be funny if mixed Gypsy-Kurdish people are unaware that one of their parents may be non-Kurdish cuz of larping n shiet

they should say both . that they are Kurdish and gypsy . but i dont find it good when they say only Kurdish . they should say both

but anyway we agree mostly

i will post some more Kurds soon
 
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