showing one more example / reason why many iranians look different from us Kurds using G25

[Kurdquistador]

please check the thread that i link below out where i have used Eurogenes K12b to show why Iranians often look different from Kurds . Kurds score close to zero south asian while a good amount of Iranians has above 5% south asian and even above 10% sometimes . and Iranians also score less mediterranean than Kurds too . these 2 reasons make big differences and a decent amount of Iranians also look south asian shifted . Kurds do NOT look like that as you should already know since you saw the 10000000 Kurds i have posted including DNA tested faces

here is the thread :

explaining one major reason why Iranians/Persians often look different from us Kurds using Eurogenes K12b

PART 1 ok so ... i already talked about this often before in other threads but i would like to dedicate a thread on it first let me start like this : as you know there is an anthromyth that Iranians and Kurds look very alike and that we are basically the same . this is NOT true . dont get me...

www.anthroworldforum.com

now in this thread i want to show you something on G25 . something that is "hidden" . the Zagrosian / Iran_N often hides the south asian admix of Iranians . that is not because Iran_N has south asian in it (it has only little) but for some reason G25 doesnt pick it up .

therefore i am using a model where i use only CHG (Kotias) and do not use Zagros_N . look at the AASI scores . i am using NorthWest AASI . and i will also use onge with the same model too . look at the AASI and onge scores . Kurds have as usual very little of it . only 2.8% AASI and 3.2% onge as you can see . while a good amount of Persians (even north Persians) have above 5% of both . look especially at the persian shiraz individual who has 9.2 AASI and 14.4 Onge ! wtf . sure the fits are not that good but it shows hidden south aisan affinity of certain Iranians

thats why Kurds dont look south asian but a good amount of Iranians do look south asian shifted . many Iranians do not but there are also many who really do . we Kurds do not because our south asians scores are close to zero . on Eurogenes K12b , Dodecad K12b and Harappaworld our average south asian score is around 2.2 % while a good amount of Iranians has above 5% and even around 10-14% not rarely . south and east Iranians have around 10-14% very often but even a good amount of north Iranians have around 7-8% and even up to 14% sometimes !

and as you see here in this model on G25 our south asian score is only around 3% too . thats the main reason why Kurds dont look south asian while a decent amount of Iranians do look south asian shifted . because above 5% will show on a good amount of people phenotypically (the higher the score the more likely it will affect phenotype) while below 5% will not except maybe very rarely on some atypical people here and there


anyway here are the results . first with AASI then with Onge :


Target: Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
Distance: 5.8794% / 0.05879426
43.0 CHG_Georgia_Kotias.SG
27.2 Northwest_Anatolia_Neolithic_Ilipinar_Bursa
18.4 Natufian
8.0 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer
2.8 AASI
0.6 Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG


Target: Persian_(n=1)
Distance: 6.3732% / 0.06373166
40.0 CHG_Georgia_Kotias.SG
25.4 Natufian
20.0 Northwest_Anatolia_Neolithic_Ilipinar_Bursa
8.0 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer
6.6 AASI


Target: Persian_Khorasan_(n=12)
Distance: 6.2970% / 0.06297022
44.0 CHG_Georgia_Kotias.SG
18.8 Natufian
15.6 Northwest_Anatolia_Neolithic_Ilipinar_Bursa
11.6 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer
7.6 AASI
2.4 Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG



Target: Iranian_Persian_Shiraz:SHII94
Distance: 5.6614% / 0.05661354
41.2 CHG_Georgia_Kotias.SG
20.8 Natufian
18.6 Northwest_Anatolia_Neolithic_Ilipinar_Bursa
9.2 AASI
8.0 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer
2.2 Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG





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Target: Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
Distance: 5.9982% / 0.05998246
43.0 CHG_Georgia_Kotias.SG
27.8 Northwest_Anatolia_Neolithic_Ilipinar_Bursa
17.4 Natufian
8.2 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer
3.2 Onge_(n=19)
0.4 Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG



Target: Persian_(n=1)
Distance: 6.8956% / 0.06895613
40.0 CHG_Georgia_Kotias.SG
22.6 Natufian
21.6 Northwest_Anatolia_Neolithic_Ilipinar_Bursa
8.2 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer
7.6 Onge_(n=19)


Target: Persian_Khorasan_(n=12)
Distance: 6.7125% / 0.06712537
43.2 CHG_Georgia_Kotias.SG
18.0 Northwest_Anatolia_Neolithic_Ilipinar_Bursa
14.8 Natufian
12.4 Onge_(n=19)
11.6 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer


Target: Iranian_Persian_Shiraz:SHII94
Distance: 6.3478% / 0.06347793
40.2 CHG_Georgia_Kotias.SG
21.6 Northwest_Anatolia_Neolithic_Ilipinar_Bursa
15.8 Natufian
14.4 Onge_(n=19)
8.0 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer

 

[Kurdquistador]

here i used great andamanese coordinates from the eurogenes database . it is probably from 100 years ago

look at the shirazi sample how much andamanese it scores . and look how little we Kurds score . the difference is massive . Kurds have very very little south asian in them . almost nothing . and we have more Barcin as you see too . that is why Kurds dont look south asian but a decent amount of Iranians do . and many Iranians look different from Kurds either way regardless if they look south asian shifted or not

and again : Zagros N / Iran_N is NOT south asian or very exotic or whatever . and it is NOT the reason why there are Iranians who look south asian shifted


Target: Iranian_Persian_Shiraz:SHII94
Distance: 6.1212% / 0.06121174
40.2 CHG_Georgia_Kotias.SG
22.0 Barcin_N
15.4 Natufian
14.8 Indian_GreatAndaman_100BP.SG
7.6 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer



Target: Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
Distance: 5.6906% / 0.05690565
42.6 CHG_Georgia_Kotias.SG
28.4 Barcin_N
17.2 Natufian
8.0 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer
3.2 Indian_GreatAndaman_100BP.SG
0.6 East_Eurasian



the shirazi even scores several percent andamanese when Zagros N is included in the model . and we Kurds score NONE

and these models also prove that Zagros_N / Iran_N is not south asian like . it is actual south asian admix (s.indian , onge / andamanese , AASI etc. depending on calc / tool ) that makes certain Iranians look south asian shifted




Target: Iranian_Persian_Shiraz:SHII94
Distance: 3.3224% / 0.03322398
35.8 Zagros_N
28.6 Northwest_Anatolia_Neolithic_Ilipinar_Bursa
11.4 CHG_Georgia_Kotias.SG
10.8 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer
7.0 Indian_GreatAndaman_100BP.SG
4.2 Natufian
2.2 East_Eurasian



Target: Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
Distance: 3.0956% / 0.03095624
35.4 Northwest_Anatolia_Neolithic_Ilipinar_Bursa
32.2 Zagros_N
15.8 CHG_Georgia_Kotias.SG
10.2 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer
5.4 Natufian
1.0 East_Eurasian