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Semitic(East mediterranean+southwest asia)

idklolimo

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There are historical figures such as Tomris hatun and Alper tunga in history and these people are Turkish/Scythian. What do you think?
 

idklolimo

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The main reason for the collapse of the Assyrian empire is the Scythian and Cimmerian attacks. The Scythians taught the Medes to fight.
 

Guti

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I think the Proto Turks were still living in North China at that time. is it correct?
Altai is a true original homeland of proto-Turkic people. Turkic language is from the Altai. It is really a magnificent place full of mountains, lakes and natural resources. Much better than Anatolia
 

Guti

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The main reason for the collapse of the Assyrian empire is the Scythian and Cimmerian attacks. The Scythians taught the Medes to fight.
Not really. The Medes destroyed the Scythians in Kurdistan and killed all their leaders. Scythians were pussies compared to the Medes and were defeated by the Medes.
 

Guti

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My name is persian but I am not persian. Is not it?
You are NOT elite. I am talking about the names of the military leaders and elites, not the foot soldiers and cannon fodder. The names of elite leaders of Scythians and Cimmerians were Iranic and not Turkic.

Modern times are different from ancient times. My name is of a Georgian variation and I am a Kurd.

True heirs and the modern day Scythians are EASTERN Iranic speaking Ossetians. They derived from a Scythians Alanian tribe. And Ossetians as Northern West Asian people are closely related to the Kurds

Watch this and you will learn a lot from this video.

 

Guti

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Modern true descendants of the Scythians/Alanians are 100% 'North Western Asian' Eastern Iranic Ossetians.
 

idklolimo

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Most Turkish historians consider them Turks. Scythians and Huns are close to each other in the latest DNA analysis. Turkish gene was found in some Cimmerians.
 

idklolimo

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You are NOT elite. I am talking about the names of the military leaders and elites, not the foot soldiers and cannon fodder. The names of elite leaders of Scythians and Cimmerians were Iranic and not Turkic.

Modern times are different from ancient times. My name is of a Georgian variation and I am a Kurd.

True heirs and the modern day Scythians are EASTERN Iranic speaking Ossetians. They derived from a Scythians Alanian tribe. And Ossetians as Northern West Asian people are closely related to the Kurds

Watch this and you will learn a lot from this video.

Very false video.... Scythians Turks.DOT
 

Guti

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Russians have also Turkic/Tatar DNA. Doesn't make Russians full Tatars/Turks.


Like I said earlier, the original homeland of the Eastern Iranians such as Scythians was in BMAC (South Central Asia). Later on Scythians moved to the northern Steppes and mixed with other people. Such as Slavic and Turkic people. They were like DAESH of the Steppes and were very diverse. Most of their leaders had Iranic names.

When they terrorized the Steppes, the terrorized the steppes like the multi-ethnic DAESH in Syria and Iraq.

But Scythians are originally from BAMC. It is where their EASTERN Iranic language is from. Turkic language is from the Altai region and not from BMAC at all.

At their final phase when Scythians were almost complete defeated and wiped out by the Slavic people (proto-Russians) in the Steppes, Scythians retreated in Ossetia and found their small Scythian kingdom called Alania. Ossetians are true descendants of the last kingdom of the Scythians.
 
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Guti

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Very false video.... Scythians Turks.DOT
Maybe terrorist foot soldiers/cannon fodder of the Eastern Iranic elite were Turkic, very possible. But the Scythians leaders/rulers had EASTERN Iranic names.

Some minor DNA doesn't say much. Putin has also Tatar/Turkic DNA. Is he considered to be a Turk or a Slavic Russian.


Ossetians speak a Scythian (EASTERN Iranic) language, they are their true heirs and true descendants of the Scythians.


Ossetians speak Scythian, Turks speak Turkic. Who do you think is more 'Scythian', LMAO!?!
 

idklolimo

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Russians have some mongoloid genes, but that doesn't make them Turks, that's true. But just because the Scythians speak Iranian, I don't see them as Persians. They are Turkish to me. Western historians are liars and dishonest. I trust Turkish historians.
 

Guti

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Russians have some mongoloid genes, but that doesn't make them Turks, that's true. But just because the Scythians speak Iranian, I don't see them as Persians. They are Turkish to me. Western historians are liars and dishonest. I trust Turkish historians.
Scythians spoke an EASTERN Iranic language, while Persians spoke a WESTERN Iranic language. They were different from each other.

Turks speak an Altaic/Tukic language. Proto-Scythians and proto-Turks had nothing in common with each other. Maybe later on there was some admixture between both in the Steppes, but EASTERN Iranic language evolved from BMAC and not in the Altai mountains.

I don't deny that some ancient Turks might have mixed with some Eastern Iranic Scythians. But ancient Turks were not EASTERN Iranic in origin at all. They were Turkic, while Scythians were Eastern Iranic in origin.
 

idklolimo

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Scythians spoke an EASTERN Iranic language, while Persians spoke a WESTERN Iranic language. They were different from each other.

Turks speak an Altaic/Tukic language. Proto-Scythians and proto-Turks had nothing in common with each other. Maybe later on there was some admixture, but EASTERN Iranic language evolved from BMAC and not in the Altai mountains.

I don't deny that some ancient Turks might have mixed with some Eastern Iranic Scythians. But ancient Turks were not EASTERN Iranic in origin at all. They were Turkic, while Scythians were Eastern Iranic in origin.
Ok
 

Guti

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I am not a demagogue. You can believe in whatever you want. I am just telling you what I know. I don't claim I have been in the ancient Scythia and have seen everything with my own eyes. I am just repeating what other people wrote, that's all. You should make your own conclusions. I don't like to impose my ideas to other people.

If you want to believe that Scythians were Turks, mate, you have my blessing!

Modern Turks are mixed with some Arabs from Levant. Does that make Turks Semitic Levantine people? Of course not. Same with the ancient Turks who were a little bit mixed with the EASTERN Iranic Scythians. But that didn't make those ancient Turks EASTERN Iranics either.

But in the academic circles EASTERN Iranic Ossetians who speak a Scythian dialect have been considered the true heirs/descendants of the Scythians. Just like modern Persians are seen as descendant of the Achaemenid Persians (of Middle Persian dialect).
 
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