werent you the one who said yourself that kurds first arrived to turkey 1000 years ago
its literally from your comments i got this from, but i probably misread it
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its literally from your comments i got this from, but i probably misread it
KARABOĞA
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Weren't the Kurds further south back then? Because as far as I know some Kurdish migrates and mixing make Eastern Anatolia has some genetically distance from the Western Anatolia. (also for sure some turkmens migrate to west anatolia)
there is a myth that many turks say that kurds were brought by selim a few hundred years ago . but it is not true . we are native . not as widely spread as we are today in the regions but we have been in east turkey since a billion years lol
there is a map if i am not wrong from almost thousand years ago even showing this . will try to find it
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Did your ancestors live in south India 1000 years ago?
well i found only one from 1355
i have read some pieces of shits say that Kurds came to Anatolia in like 1500 1600 or even 1700 iirc . what kind of bullshit
we are even older than what this map says
look here : . Corduene = Kurds
Sophene also Kurds if i am not wrong . Dersim area where i am from
this map is ancient ....more than 1000 years ago
i have read some pieces of shits say that Kurds came to Anatolia in like 1500 1600 or even 1700 iirc . what kind of bullshit
we are even older than what this map says
look here : . Corduene = Kurds
Sophene also Kurds if i am not wrong . Dersim area where i am from
this map is ancient ....more than 1000 years ago
no that is not correct . according to that map we arent even native to zagros mountains which is total bullshit lol
by the way that applies to Lurs i think . Lorestan . not Kurdistan
Alexander the Great time map . "Karduchi" . look at it
you can click on the pic to zoom
also Sophene is also Kurdish if i am not wrong . we Dersim area people
there is no need to discuss ....we are native to east/southeast turkey . haters gonna hate
you can click on the pic to zoom
also Sophene is also Kurdish if i am not wrong . we Dersim area people
there is no need to discuss ....we are native to east/southeast turkey . haters gonna hate
yes of course . only maps AGAINST what i say can be made . even better if it is kurd haters doing it ?
what else do i have to do to show we are native . even if i made a time travelling machine and brought you there and showed you kurds there you would say "your machine is biased"
just accept the stuff i am showing and dont try to shit in it
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it's from 1070, i know kurds lives with turks in seljuk empire i don't think except red parts there are kurds in other areas in 1070 so kurds lives in slightly more southern and eastern than current IMO. i don't know there are any kurdish people in byzantine empire.
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it's seljuk empire map btw i don't mean kurds lives in all red area
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I don't remember any information in any source about Kurds after Seljuks entering Anatolia, but there is information about Kurds before the Seljuk empire entered Anatolia. (that there are Kurds in the Seljuk lands) It just makes more sense to me, but as I said, I don't have much knowledge and I haven't done any research.
CORDUENE (GORDION) - Where does the name Kurd come from?
The word kurti is from sumerian and means: "kur" means mountain/hill and "ti" means from. So it means the people from the mountains/hills. This word kurti is the oldest known word which describes the kurds from 3000 BC.
In 1923, English Orientalist Sir Godfrey Rolles Driver published a scientific research article "The Name Kurd and Its Philological Connexions". Driver, who was also an Assyriologist had tried to find who was the Qurti who had lived around the lake Van and with whom Assyrian warrior Tiglath-Pileser "I had fought" in ~1050 BC.
Driver also tried to find the connection between Qurti and "the land of Karda" [Kardaka] text which was written on a Sumerian clay-tablet, of the third millennium B.C. Sumerians called the area around Lake Van a land of Karda. Driver examined the philological variations of Karda in different languages, such as Cordueni, Gordyeni, Kordyoui, Karduchi, Kardueni, Qardu, Kardaye, Qardawaye. He realized that all these names were actually the conversions of "Karda" in different languages. Also, he managed to connect all these names to the same area, Lake Van in contemporary Kurdistan.
Sumerian called it the land of "Karda" (3000 BC)
Tiglath-Pileser I had fought against "Qurti" from the same area (1050 BC)
Greek historian Xenophon called people who lived around Lake Van a "Karduchi" people. He called the area a Corduene (400 BC)
Artakhshir, the founder of the Persian Sassanid dynasty fought against the "Madrig the King of Kurdan" in same area (226 AD)
Driver reaches a conclusion that the term Kurd wasn't used differently by different nations and roots of modern Kurds can be found from the ancient Corduene region. He also said that the root of ancient Kurds are very likely in the land of Kardas.
The word kurti is from sumerian and means: "kur" means mountain/hill and "ti" means from. So it means the people from the mountains/hills. This word kurti is the oldest known word which describes the kurds from 3000 BC.
In 1923, English Orientalist Sir Godfrey Rolles Driver published a scientific research article "The Name Kurd and Its Philological Connexions". Driver, who was also an Assyriologist had tried to find who was the Qurti who had lived around the lake Van and with whom Assyrian warrior Tiglath-Pileser "I had fought" in ~1050 BC.
Driver also tried to find the connection between Qurti and "the land of Karda" [Kardaka] text which was written on a Sumerian clay-tablet, of the third millennium B.C. Sumerians called the area around Lake Van a land of Karda. Driver examined the philological variations of Karda in different languages, such as Cordueni, Gordyeni, Kordyoui, Karduchi, Kardueni, Qardu, Kardaye, Qardawaye. He realized that all these names were actually the conversions of "Karda" in different languages. Also, he managed to connect all these names to the same area, Lake Van in contemporary Kurdistan.
Sumerian called it the land of "Karda" (3000 BC)
Tiglath-Pileser I had fought against "Qurti" from the same area (1050 BC)
Greek historian Xenophon called people who lived around Lake Van a "Karduchi" people. He called the area a Corduene (400 BC)
Artakhshir, the founder of the Persian Sassanid dynasty fought against the "Madrig the King of Kurdan" in same area (226 AD)
Driver reaches a conclusion that the term Kurd wasn't used differently by different nations and roots of modern Kurds can be found from the ancient Corduene region. He also said that the root of ancient Kurds are very likely in the land of Kardas.
so we are natives to the lands we live in . period
i hope this nonsense has an end now
i hope this nonsense has an end now