off topic chat thread

[KARABOĞA]

even i have ağrı in this sources ağrı is kurdish majority city in east but they don't mixed with local my grandpa born in ağrı

 

[Ben Dover]

ok you're basically armenian

according to pca plots yea but in models i actually differ from armenians quite a bit.

 

[KARABOĞA]

lol

Distance to: average
0.02170763 Ahiska
0.02525817 Georgian_Kartli
0.02783683 Georgian_Kakheti
0.03008985 Udi
0.03025130 Turkish_East
0.03357480 Abkhasian
0.03407225 Georgian_Tusheti
0.03437196 Georgian_Laz
0.03624249 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.03658887 Georgian_Khevsur
0.03716229 Georgian_Adjar
0.03835522 Greek_Trabzon
0.03937634 Adygei
0.04050317 Turkish_Trabzon
0.04050582 Armenian
0.04087832 Ossetian
0.04135781 Turkish_Kayseri
0.04183215 Georgian_Meskheti
0.04190468 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.04234563 Georgian_Imereti
0.04281904 Dersim
0.04343847 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.04377670 Georgian_Megrelia
0.04485715 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.04586700 Ingushian
0.04629704 Georgian_Svan
0.04662402 Azerbaijani
0.04683422 Armenian_Erzurum
0.04704210 Turkish_Adana
0.04803321 Kumyk

 

[Ben Dover]

@KARABOĞA aight

 

[Ben Dover]

lol

Distance to: average
0.02170763 Ahiska
0.02525817 Georgian_Kartli
0.02783683 Georgian_Kakheti
0.03008985 Udi
0.03025130 Turkish_East
0.03357480 Abkhasian
0.03407225 Georgian_Tusheti
0.03437196 Georgian_Laz
0.03624249 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.03658887 Georgian_Khevsur
0.03716229 Georgian_Adjar
0.03835522 Greek_Trabzon
0.03937634 Adygei
0.04050317 Turkish_Trabzon
0.04050582 Armenian
0.04087832 Ossetian
0.04135781 Turkish_Kayseri
0.04183215 Georgian_Meskheti
0.04190468 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.04234563 Georgian_Imereti
0.04281904 Dersim
0.04343847 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.04377670 Georgian_Megrelia
0.04485715 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.04586700 Ingushian
0.04629704 Georgian_Svan
0.04662402 Azerbaijani
0.04683422 Armenian_Erzurum
0.04704210 Turkish_Adana
0.04803321 Kumyk

i made a fusion of G25 coordinates with the the populations that correspond to your ancestry.

 

[Ben Dover]

anyway your plot will most likely deviate from that one.

 

[KARABOĞA]

i’m curious how much mongoloid i have to this probably it’s like 2-4% lol

 

[Nassbean]

according to pca plots yea but in models i actually differ from armenians quite a bit.

what's the difference ? Steppe ?

 

[KARABOĞA]

i’m curious how much mongoloid i have to this probably it’s like 2-4% lol

i’m the living example of phenotype doesn’t always equal to genotype

 

[Ben Dover]

what's the difference ? Steppe ?

there is some difference in steppe albeit not too much. I also have more CHG than the armenian averages and steppe is 30-40% CHG so my steppe score is also masked in my CHG score. Also, thereare medium to big differences in ANF, Natufian and Iran_N scores.

 

[Ben Dover]

i’m the living example of phenotype doesn’t always equal to genotype

the same also applies to me.

 

[Nassbean]

i’m the living example of phenotype doesn’t always equal to genotype

I don't believe this it's like those hungarians with clear asian leaning phenotypes who end up being fully euro ...yeah what a coincidence that's exactly where many central asian tribes settled lol

 

[Nassbean]

there is some difference in steppe albeit not too much. I also have more CHG than the armenian averages and steppe is 30-40% CHG so my steppe score is also masked in my CHG score. Also, thereare medium to big differences in ANF, Natufian and Iran_N scores.

have you compared yourself with all the new armenian samples ? I'm sure there must be some armenians who are similar to you but you're basically armenian. I get higher distances with people from my own country lol

 

[KARABOĞA]

I don't believe this it's like those hungarians with clear asian leaning phenotypes who end up being fully euro ...yeah what a coincidence that's exactly where many central asian tribes settled lol

i think genetics works a bit different i mean hungarians who have asiatic eyes are fully euro but after all they have mongoloid ancestor in the past even they doesn’t have mongoloid admixture. i think this ancestor can effect your phenotype maybe my situation is similar.

 

[Ben Dover]

have you compared yourself with all the new armenian samples ? I'm sure there must be some armenians who are similar to you but you're basically armenian. I get higher distances with people from my own country lol

well the plot wasn't generated from Davidski coordinates but from DNAGENICS coordinates and the distances with OG coordinates may be a lil bit further but i doubt that dnagenics and davidski coordinates are that different from each other that it will significantly affect the plot. iirc i compared myself to all the armenian samples.

 

[KARABOĞA]

for example chris from apricity his genetic results are barely mongoloid

 

[Nassbean]

i think genetics works a bit different i mean hungarians who have asiatic eyes are fully euro but after all they have mongoloid ancestor in the past even they doesn’t have mongoloid admixture. i think this ancestor can effect your phenotype maybe my situation is similar.

with what kind of model do you only get 2-4% ?

 

[KARABOĞA]

with what kind of model do you only get 2-4% ?

i havent tested yet but for example for k12b according to my known ancestors it's something like 2-4%

 

[Nassbean]

well the plot wasn't generated from Davidski coordinates but from DNAGENICS coordinates and the distances with OG coordinates may be a lil bit further but i doubt that dnagenics and davidski coordinates are that different from each other that it will significantly affect the plot. iirc i compared myself to all the armenian samples.

do you feel anything for armenia/armenians or you just care about being an ethnic jew ? Some years ago I used to think I was a full blown arab then it completely changed after some readings and dna results lol

 

[Nassbean]

i havent tested yet but for example for k12b according to my known ancestors it's something like 2-4%

can you post the k12b results pls ? There are maybe other better calculators to detect this