My g25 results (Moroccan)

[Nassbean]

 

[Nassbean]

Can I link mine? I don't want to hijack the thread.

sure

 

[Nassbean]

Target: onyx_scaled
Distance: 2.5911% / 0.02591113
38.0 TUR_Barcin_N
27.2 Yamnaya_BGR
13.2 GEO_CHG
8.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
6.8 Levant_PPNC
6.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Caucasus

Why two yamnaya sources ? And looking at these results I suppose you're from west asia ...Are you kurd or iranian ?

 

[Nassbean]

Yes, I am half Greek, half Pontic Greek, so I have Iranic genetics 20%-25%ish, as the breakdown shows, that's why I am very interested in them.

As for the Yamnaya references, I put them all (I skipped the low res one) and let the runner pick the ones it wants to get the good fit, funnily enough it picks the 2 most relevant ones to my known ancestry.

Interesting I wasn't expecting greeks to score this much ME ancestry tbh and what's interesting is that I score more anatolian ancestry. Did you compare yourself to some ancient greek samples (minoan, myceneans for example) I just want to know if this yamnaya ancestry has been inflated by slavic migrations

 

[Kurdquistador]

Interesting I wasn't expecting greeks to score this much ME ancestry tbh and what's interesting is that I score more anatolian ancestry. Did you compare yourself to some ancient greek samples (minoan, myceneans for example) I just want to know if this yamnaya ancestry has been inflated by slavic migrations

whats "ME ancestry" ?

and you cant score more anatolian than him thats not possible

 

[Nassbean]

whats "ME ancestry" ?

and you cant score more anatolian than him thats not possible

this :

13.2 GEO_CHG
8.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
6.8 Levant_PPNC

and based on his results yes I have more but we should try the same model to be sure

 

[Kurdquistador]

CHG is not middle eastern

even Ganj Dareh I would not call proper middle eastern since it is related to CHG

but anyway show me your anatolia score then

 

[Kurdquistador]

I am also not far from the Ostrogoth Crimea sample

 

[Nassbean]

CHG is not middle eastern

even Ganj Dareh I would not call proper middle eastern since it is related to CHG

but anyway show me your anatolia score then

I already posted my results just check the first post and yes CHG is ME it peaks among modern-day west asians

 

[Nassbean]

Actually, I am the meeting point of two Greek outliers, I am from Bulgarian Thrace paternally and Trabzon maternally, so I am not the average Greek person, in terms of genetic components (I am talking about the mainland). The reason I score so much Iranic/CHG is because Pontic Greeks can be modelled roughly as Hellenized Colchians, ie 80% Georgian Laz + 20% Greek Crete.

The ancient sample I am the closest to in the G25 list, is the Scytho-Greek from Crimea 320ACD, the so called "Ostrogoth" sample.

Ah ok I see thanks I didn't know for pontic greeks

 

[Kurdquistador]

I already posted my results just check the first post and yes CHG is ME it peaks among modern-day west asians

my bad . it is actually normal that you score more barcin n . because it has a lot of west med in it

no CHG is not middle eastern because it is from georgia and peaks in georgians . there is no such thing as "middle eastern" to begin with but if there is then georgia doesnt qualify

btw. your ssa score is more than what your modelling shows . the iberomaurisian for example has ssa in it . the same applies for other pops as well

can you give me your coordinates I would like to model you

 

[Nassbean]

my bad . it is actually normal that you score more barcin n . because it has a lot of west med in it

no CHG is not middle eastern because it is from georgia and peaks in georgians . there is no such thing as "middle eastern" to begin with but if there is then georgia doesnt qualify

btw. your ssa score is more than what your modelling shows . the iberomaurisian for example has ssa in it . the same applies for other pops as well

can you give me your coordinates I would like to model you

Well what I meant is that this component isn't european for sure and I made a whole thread about the problem of ANA and how it should be interpretated ( https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?21478-Questions-about-SSA-ANA-admixture-among-north-africans) Based on what people say you can't put modern SSA (west african admixture) in the same bag as ANA and call it "SSA"

I will send you my coordinates by pm

 

[Kurdquistador]

CHG is more european than "middle eastern" . as I said it is from georgia and peaks in georgians . also if I am not wrong a decent chunk of europeans have chg too . so calling it middle eastern is nonsense

bro dont get hung up on terms . it is negroid thats what matters

I will try to make good models for you thanks for sending me

 

[Kurdquistador]

whats up with the algerian berber sample ?

the fit is not THAT good but it still shows something

you dont get modelled like this btw

Target: Berber_Algeria Distance: 5.3585% / 0.05358496
42.6	Yoruba
27.8	Yemenite_Mahra
19.6	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
10.0	Dinka

 

[Nassbean]

CHG is more european than "middle eastern" . as I said it is from georgia and peaks in georgians . also if I am not wrong a decent chunk of europeans have chg too . so calling it middle eastern is nonsense

bro dont get hung up on terms . it is negroid thats what matters

I will try to make good models for you thanks for sending me

hahaha bro come on even levantines score more CHG than any european and georgians are not europeans they are well inside the west asian cluster close to populations like armenians, kurds, turks, abkhasians, etc

As for ANA We don't have any craniometric data about them so negroid or not we don't know

 

[Nassbean]

whats up with the algerian berber sample ?

the fit is not THAT good but it still shows something

you dont get modelled like this btw

Target: Berber_Algeria Distance: 5.3585% / 0.05358496
42.6	Yoruba
27.8	Yemenite_Mahra
19.6	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
10.0	Dinka

that's a sample from southern algeria (timimoun) people there are basically black people (descendents of west african slaves). Use the berber_chen sample

 

[Kurdquistador]

hahaha bro come on even levantines score more CHG than any european and georgians are not europeans they are well inside the west asian cluster close to populations like armenians, kurds, turks, abkhasians, etc

As for ANA We don't have any craniometric data about them so negroid or not we don't know

I dont see how levantines scoring chg makes what I said any less true . georgians are borderline european . they are mostly a mix of CHG and Anatolia N . both can be found in europeans especially Anatolia N . and I also go by eurogenes k12b which is a great calc on gedmatch . georgians score around 80% of the components there that also many europeans score . I am 57% or so .

while we are at it can you post your eurogenes k12b results ?

there you will also see your real ssa score

 

[Nassbean]

I dont see how levantines scoring chg makes what I said any less true . georgians are borderline european . they are mostly a mix of CHG and Anatolia N . both can be found in europeans especially Anatolia N . and I also go by eurogenes k12b which is a great calc on gedmatch . georgians score around 80% of the components there that also many europeans score . I am 57% or so .

while we are at it can you post your eurogenes k12b results ?

there you will also see your real ssa score

How can it be "european" if it peaks among non-europeans ? And genetically I'm more european than georgians but it doesn't mean I'm "borderline" european. Here an example :




and we both know gedmatch isn't accurate especially for north africans but ok here my k12b results :

 

[Nassbean]

That's my K12b component list:

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And sorry, guys, I don't mean to sound dismissive, but who cares about what's European or not. I'd rather be Scythian-Alanic rather than European.

interesting but that's dodecad he asked for eurogenes k12b

 

[Nassbean]

I don't have that one, is there one that is similar?

the one you posted is similar I'm not aware of another one