Nassbean
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it's ok bro I know we already discussed about this before lol let's agree to disagree
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Kurdish festival in Diyarbakır Province . analyze them . lots of Kurds
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Nassbean
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he disappeared the forum doesn't have enough activity it's only maintained because of those idiotic latino members
KARABOĞA
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whats more european ancestor? just curious i don't know very knowledgeable about genetics and i know only can interpret dodecadk12b xd for dodecadk12b european admixture is something like atlantic med + north european and moroccans have 20-22 atlantic med as far as i know and barely north european and most turkish population is 20-50 north european + atlantic med. don't blame me as i said idk much about genetics. xd
Kurds are half Iran N and half Corsican like . (actually more like 53 corsican)
i explained it in the corsican iran n calculator by fuckeeer thread
i explained it in the corsican iran n calculator by fuckeeer thread
Nassbean
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It's mostly EEF, steppe and WHG especially for coastal north africans and their mtDNAs are also mostly european meanwhile people like turks or armenians are mostly defined by ANF, CHG, iran_N, natufian, etc
Gedmatch is confusing and use ambiguous labels and you get all kinds of different results depending on the calculator. Be careful I'm not saying NAs look more european imo turks look closer ofc (even though there are exceptions like kabyles for instance)
Barcin IS EEF and our barcin score is 35-40
and we only have a few percent natufian . turks even less
and lol at you not mentioning our steppe .....wtf
and north africans have ssa . not only a little
turks and georgians are the closest people to europeans in every aspect . followed by other NWA people . perios
Nassbean
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No EEF is drifted and has sometimes WHG ancestry and for north morocco or coastal algeria it easily reaches 40-50%
10-12% is not what I would call a "few percent" and your steppe is very low I score more than most turks/armenians on g25
also what does ssa have to do with this ? Many dominicans or puerto ricans have more european ancestry than any MENA yet also have substantial SSA ancestry.
yes barcin and the like has whg and thats what i am talking about . our EEF Sscore is 35-40
our steppe is more than 10 12 . more like 17 . on qpAdm even 17-22
ssa has to do with it because we NWA dont have it and are close to full west eurasian . NWA also look closer to europeans than north africans . ask people ....on TA there was a thread too if west asians or north africans look closer to europeans and west asia won by a long shot
Nassbean
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looks like the roma we have here he must be mixed
idklolimo
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an Armenian man posted this man on reddit. he said he could be pure Armenian because he was saying that there was no gypsy settlement in the place where this man was born or something.
Nassbean
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I made a mistake it's armenians who have very low steppe ancestry not turks and the point wasn't about look I'm talking only about ancestry.
Nassbean
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I honestly don't know he looks too exotic to be a fully armenian we need the opinion of one @FinalFlash
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whats turks steppe %? for western anatolia and other parts?
will check tomorrow
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Well, I hope you all have worked out who is White and who is not. It is best to stick to West Eurasian as pigmentation and who clusters with whom on PCA are not relevant.
I had a discussion about PCAs and Ashkenazi Jews. Europeanized Jews form their own cluster that parallels the Near East populations. A good PCA for Europeans matches their geographical location. With Near East populations it is similar, the Cypriots cluster near the north Levant. Back to our friends the Ashkenazi Jews, they cluster nowhere geographically, not in Italy, not with the Greeks they just cluster close to Italians and Greeks in the Mediterranean. What does that tell us? That they are a recent admixture population composed of the mixing of Levantine Jews and Southern Europeans of the Italian type with whom they physically approximate, at least the good looking ones. Now you can say they are European as they cluster close to Southern Europeans from the central south, and south east or not. It is up to you.
Anatolian Turks cluster near other West Asians, not with Europeans, there are outliers that cluster with Bulgarians. Mustapha Kemal was born in Europe, and probably would be one of those outliers. Is that important to being White or Brown or Middle Eastern? Not really.
I had a discussion about PCAs and Ashkenazi Jews. Europeanized Jews form their own cluster that parallels the Near East populations. A good PCA for Europeans matches their geographical location. With Near East populations it is similar, the Cypriots cluster near the north Levant. Back to our friends the Ashkenazi Jews, they cluster nowhere geographically, not in Italy, not with the Greeks they just cluster close to Italians and Greeks in the Mediterranean. What does that tell us? That they are a recent admixture population composed of the mixing of Levantine Jews and Southern Europeans of the Italian type with whom they physically approximate, at least the good looking ones. Now you can say they are European as they cluster close to Southern Europeans from the central south, and south east or not. It is up to you.
Anatolian Turks cluster near other West Asians, not with Europeans, there are outliers that cluster with Bulgarians. Mustapha Kemal was born in Europe, and probably would be one of those outliers. Is that important to being White or Brown or Middle Eastern? Not really.