Kurdish Eurogenes K12b results

[Kurdquistador]

you got to be fucking kidding me .....

yeah all of the kits like this that i have are russian mixed . gtfo bro

if they were russian mixed it would show in eurogenes k13 . but they get either georgian or abkhasian as first fit . and their results are normal georgian and show nothing russian . and many georgians get abkhasian as first fit btw. . .....in before you try to make something out of it

and i also saw abkhaz results and i think i even have some abkhaz kits will look ....and they score like west georgians

here this is a 100% CONFIRMED half Gurian half Kakheti ....so even half eastern Georgian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 55.58
2 Gedrosia 19.82
3 Southwest_Asian 9.53
4 North_European 9.31
5 Atlantic_Med 4.72
6 Northwest_African 0.57
7 Siberian 0.46


now what ?

"well we cant know if she has a russian grandfather " right ? lel

 

[FinalFlash]

you got to be fucking kidding me .....

yeah all of the kits like this that i have are russian mixed . gtfo bro

if they were russian mixed it would show in eurogenes k13 . but they get either georgian or abkhasian as first fit . and their results are normal georgian and show nothing russian . and many georgians get abkhasian as first fit btw. . .....in before you try to make something out of it

and i also saw abkhaz results and i think i even have some abkhaz kits will look ....and they score like west georgians

here this is a 100% CONFIRMED half Gurian half Kakheti ....so even half eastern Georgian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 55.58
2 Gedrosia 19.82
3 Southwest_Asian 9.53
4 North_European 9.31
5 Atlantic_Med 4.72
6 Northwest_African 0.57
7 Siberian 0.46


now what ?

"well we cant know if she has a russian grandfather " right ? lel

I'm not kidding you. Did you see my modeling for Abkhazians using Adygeis and NW Georgians as source populations. They're literally anywhere from 25-42% Adygeian-like compared to the Georgians lol. I just told you that if they score excess North European then they have to be Abkhazians or NE Georgians.

I don't care much for Gedmatch calculators btw. They're obviously outdated and suffer from calculator effect which skews results. Some components are masked or bleed into others so I think i'll avoid that nonsense, thanks. Not saying G25 is perfect either, it isn't; but it's the more reliable tool here. Also, the fact that most of those default population fits are terrible should be a dead giveaway as to how reliable they are and yet you're still using it. Try to capture their North Europeanness on G25, if you can. Then we'll talk

 

[Kurdquistador]

they are neither abkhaz nor NE georgians . i have a lot of georgian kits and many score that much north euro . it is ridiculous and annoying to claim they are abkhazian (who often score just like georgians to begin with) or NE-Georgians .

you just dont want to accept the truth . i dont know what else i can do . you want to see Svan results ? or will you say they are russians claiming to be svan . lol

G25 showing their north euronness .....didnt i tell you why ? CHG and Anatolia N already has such stuff in it and west georgians have the most CHG and other than that only ANF mostly . CHG itself has a shift towards WHG / EHG

it is not just coincidence that west georgians are from all of us other nwa the whitest and known to be lighter than eastern georgians .......

you dont trust gedmatch yeah yeah . and you used to love G25 but thats not good enough anymore either but now it is good again whenever it suits you

this discussion is finished . neither do i have the nerve to go on nor do i want the topic to go more off topic . i know it was me starting the CHG thing but i would like to also end it here

no more off topic please

 

[FinalFlash]

You're in denial that Gedmatch is outdated stuff. Don't know why you cling on to that nonsense. Move on to newer and more reliable tools and you'll see that your data is not correct.

 

[Kurdquistador]

You're in denial that Gedmatch is outdated stuff. Don't know why you cling on to that nonsense. Move on to newer and more reliable tools and you'll see that your data is not correct.

then Guti is right with what he says . he uses academic stuff and not gedmatch

you cant have it both ways ....

 

[Ben Dover]

Bruh

 

[FinalFlash]

then Guti is right with what he says . he uses academic stuff and not gedmatch

you cant have it both ways ....

Guti would have to give out his sources and show me runs using qpAdm for me to take those as academic material.

In lieu of any pro tools, I stick to G25 for the time being as it's the best available tool for the layman.

I challenge you to try and capture on G25 what you do for K12b and then we'll talk

 

[Kurdquistador]

Guti would have to give out his sources and show me runs using qpAdm for me to take those as academic material.

In lieu of any pro tools, I stick to G25 for the time being as it's the best available tool for the layman.

I challenge you to try and capture on G25 what you do for K12b and then we'll talk

and i told you that CHG is already WHG / EHG shifted

if you seriously believe armenians are more yuro than georgians then you must be a fool . a cool fool who i like as a member but still a fool . we kurds are one of the most steppe population in west asia and i am not claiming we are more european than georgians unlike you

 

[FinalFlash]

and i told you that CHG is already WHG / EHG shifted

if you seriously believe armenians are more yuro than georgians then you must be a fool . a cool fool who i like as a member but still a fool . we kurds are one of the most steppe population in west asia and i am not claiming we are more european than georgians unlike you

Simple explanation: More steppe and EEF admix in Armenians makes then closer to the European cluster. Same reason why Turks are closer to Europeans, same reasons why some Levantines are as well. You continue to make the mistake of equating phenotype with genotype, yet I'm the foolish one?

Check any calculator your heart desires and you will see this for yourself. The genetic distance between the average Georgian to any European group is greater than that of the average Armenian to any European group.

 

[Kurdquistador]

Simple explanation: More steppe and EEF admix in Armenians makes then closer to the European cluster. Same reason why Turks are closer to Europeans, same reasons why some Levantines are as well. You continue to make the mistake of equating phenotype with genotype, yet I'm the foolish one?

Check any calculator your heart desires and you will see this for yourself. The genetic distance between the average Georgian to any European group is greater than that of the average Armenian to any European group.

yes you are the fool because first you tell me "gedmatch is outdated" and now you talk about such "clusters" . you got to be kidding me

levantines being closer to europeans than georgians is a joke

thats not how it works . according to your logic a 75 % english + 25 % sudanese is closer to europeans than georgians then ....

i already explained before why georgians could even arguably be CONSIDERED european . but please dig it out yourself because today i wont do it . maybe tomorrow

 

[Kurdquistador]

guys i am tired . i will close the thread for now because so much off topic

will open it in the next days again when i get new kurdish kits because that was the point of the thread to begin with . posting kurdish results

and you both think what you want . i dont care

 

[Kurdquistador]

Kurd from Cihanbeyli - Konya

i am talking to him per e mail and trying to find out more about him

 

[Ben Dover]

His actual Northern European component gets absorbed by Western European component

 

[Kurdquistador]

Kurd from Cihanbeyli - Konya

i am talking to him per e mail and trying to find out more about him

he said both of his parents are Kurdish and that he has no known other ethnicity admix

his results are typical kurdish anyway . but i just wanted to add it here

and he said that as far as he knows Kurds in Konya are originally from places like Malatya and Adiyaman

 

[Kurdquistador]

this kit is named "Zaza Dersimi"

so it seems it is a zaza from my homeprovince

eurogenes k13 population model

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance

1 54.9% Abhkasian + 45.1% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.94



EU test :

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurdish +50% Kurdish @ 6.015521


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurdish +25% Kurdish +25% Kurdish @ 6.015521

 

[Ben Dover]

What's the highest Caucasus score you've observed in Kurds from you home province?

 

[Kurdquistador]

havent seen above 38-39 as far as i can remember

 

[Ben Dover]

That's a decent amount

 

[Kurdquistador]

Alevi Kurd from Kahramanmaras province . but one grandgrandparent from Dersim

and as many he gets modelled like this :


on K13 for example

 

[Ben Dover]

Alevi Kurd from Kahramanmaras province . but one grandgrandparent from Dersim

and as many he gets modelled like this :


on K13 for example

Damn. How often do Kurds get 17% WCA