G25 models/plots etc for anyone

[Ben Dover]

This thread will rival or corroborate with eu-k12 threads.

The results shall come from the simulated eurogenes k36 coordinates in case there are no official G25 coordinates available or there is a lack of better alternatives.

 

[Ben Dover]

Source thread: https://www.anthroworldforum.com/in...-of-northern-west-asian-people.348/post-46220

Model and plot generated from Eurogenes k36 simulated coordinates.

Model:

Target: Laz from Hopa
Distance: 3.3138% / 0.03313823
47.0 Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
37.8 Mediterranean
8.2 Natufian
3.6 East_European_HG
3.4 Iran_Neolithic

Plot (top 25):

Distance to: Laz from Hopa
0.01199812 Ahiska
0.01467789 Georgian_Laz
0.01593556 Georgian_Kakh
0.01667778 Georgian_Kart
0.01818395 Georgian_Samtckhe
0.01944793 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.02127075 Georgian_Javakheti
0.02236905 Georgian_Ajar
0.02271127 Andian_A
0.02549258 Greek_Trabzon
0.02930477 Georgian_Lechkhumi
0.02948523 Turkish_Trabzon
0.03000381 Georgian_Imer
0.03078701 Georgian_West
0.03163251 Udi
0.03190651 Armenian_Parspatunik
0.03266613 Georgian_Guria
0.03285745 Armenian_Syunik
0.03366383 Georgian_Ratcha
0.03391706 Georgian_Meskheti
0.03414088 Armenian_Artsakh
0.03515107 Georgian_Megr
0.03536219 Abkhasian
0.03639441 Georgian_NorthEast
0.03743699 Armenian_Gesaria

 

[Ben Dover]

Source thread: https://www.anthroworldforum.com/index.php?threads/eurogenes-k12b-thread.279/post-37717

Model and plot generated from DNAGENICS coordinates.

Model:

Target: @Mesoman
Distance: 3.9916% / 0.03991643
36.2 Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
33.6 Mediterranean
15.8 Natufian
9.6 Iran_Neolithic
4.8 East_European_HG

Plot (Top 25):

Distance to: @Mesoman
0.02146713 Armenian_Syunik
0.02351583 Armenian_Artsakh
0.02563303 Armenian_Parspatunik
0.02625242 Armenian_Erzurum
0.02683727 Armenian_Gesaria
0.02766378 Armenian_Ararat
0.02956405 Georgian_Jew
0.03038508 Udi
0.03284863 Greek_Trabzon
0.03302738 Turkish_Trabzon
0.03377116 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.03386812 Georgian_Kart
0.03454086 Ahiska
0.03469455 Georgian_Meskheti
0.03472491 Turkish_East
0.03532211 Andian_A
0.03536513 Mountain_Jew
0.03565855 Armenian_Urfa
0.03599876 Assyrian
0.03617211 Georgian_Samtckhe
0.03680387 Georgian_Kakh
0.03692766 Armenian_Aintab
0.03755656 Mountain_Jew_o
0.03765006 Georgian_Laz
0.03920123 Armenian_Gurin

 

[Ben Dover]

Source thread:https://www.anthroworldforum.com/index.php?threads/kurdish-eurogenes-k12b-results.968/

Model and plot generated from Davidski's coordinates.

Model:

Target: @FUCKEEER
Distance: 3.6473% / 0.03647333
39.0 Mediterranean
29.0 Iran_Neolithic
12.2 Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
9.6 East_European_HG
9.0 Natufian
1.2 East_Eurasian

 

[Kurdquistador]

half French Coriscan + half Iran Seh Gabi Late Neolithic oracle

Distance to: corsican_sehgabiLN


0.03471641 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.03515209 Ezid
0.03532320 Kurdish
0.03624396 Iranian_Lor
0.03970765 Iranian_Fars
0.04132824 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.04181193 Iranian_Persian_Shiraz
0.04395791 Bukharian_Jew
0.04806240 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.05277846 Turkish_East
0.05309276 Azerbaijani
0.05422161 Udi
0.05479992 Tat_Dagestan_Nyugdi
0.05576482 Tat_Azerbaijan
0.05845495 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.05874995 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.06035406 Georgian_Jew
0.06060444 Assyrian
0.06077606 Armenian_Artsakh
0.06160471 Iranian_Jew
0.06186206 Armenian_Syunik
0.06255109 Turkish_Adana
0.06309462 Mountain_Jew
0.06504237 Georgian_Meskheti
0.06513627 Mountain_Jew_o
0.06532089 Turkish_Kayseri
0.06778480 Tat_Dagestan_Dzhalgan
0.06795601 Armenian_Gurin
0.06823605 Andian_A
0.06829142 Armenian_Ararat
0.06959666 Armenian_Parspatunik
0.06999045 Armenian_Gesaria
0.07006140 Armenian_Erzurum
0.07025041 Iraqi
0.07172445 Georgian_Kakh
0.07175788 Iranian_Bandari
0.07206266 Turkish_Central
0.07317684 Kurdish_Jew
0.07348202 Armenian_Aintab
0.07364025 Parsi_Pakistan
0.07392223 Syrian
0.07445422 Armenian_Urfa
0.07465266 Georgian_Samtckhe
0.07586532 Parsi_India
0.07642167 Iraqi_Jew
0.07669438 Georgian_Kart
0.07734798 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.07764638 Georgian_Khevs
0.07839494 Turkish_Trabzon
0.07841872 Georgian_Tush
0.07909289 Kumyk
0.07918627 EmiratiC
0.07962278 Georgian_Javakheti
0.07977158 Ahiska
0.08157766 Greek_Trabzon
0.08244504 Lebanese_Muslim
0.08286455 Greek_Cappadocia
0.08305140 Lebanese_Druze
0.08310168 Druze
0.08319285 Karata
0.08333219 Hinukh
0.08365789 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.08403404 Georgian_Laz
0.08470158 Georgian_NorthEast
0.08475748 Lezgin
0.08561882 Georgian_Lechkhumi
0.08653710 Tsez_A
0.08684295 Turkish_North
0.08703878 Syrian_Jew
0.08760552 Bagvalin_o
0.08803254 Georgian_Mtiuleti
0.08828459 Ingushian
0.08830228 Turkish_South
0.08920428 Tabasaran
0.08947572 Georgian_Ajar
0.08954730 Turkish_Southwest
0.08962093 Chechen
0.09054303 Adygei
0.09059087 Hunzib
0.09110968 Karaite_Egypt
0.09123722 Karachay
0.09124755 Abkhasian_Gudauta
0.09128648 Kabardin
0.09173055 Sephardic_Jew_o
0.09268145 Circassian
0.09276600 Bagvalin
0.09341064 Ossetian
0.09358765 Turkish_Aydin
0.09363541 Greek_Crete_Heraklion
0.09399884 Cherkes
0.09430197 Georgian_Imer
0.09431716 Abkhasian
0.09463912 Andian_B
0.09470920 Lak
0.09472558 Lebanese_Christian
0.09523186 Greek_Kos
0.09528772 North_Ossetian
0.09555514 Balkar
0.09557202 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.09571939 Greek_Dodecanese

 

[Kurdquistador]

this is corsica on the map

and this is where seh gabi is

 

[Ben Dover]

@FUCKEEER the bronze age model you posted yesterday.

Target: cs_scaled Distance: 2.8711% / 0.02871092
34.2	TUR_Med_Isparta_BA
30.2	IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
22.0	Levant_JOR_EBA
11.0	RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
2.6	East_Eurasian

Target: MS Distance: 3.7601% / 0.03760112
53.2	RUS_Maykop
22.2	Levant_JOR_EBA
16.6	TUR_Med_Isparta_BA
7.2	IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
0.4	East_Eurasian
0.4	RUS_Sintashta_MLBA

 

[Ben Dover]

@FUCKEEER how similar do you think rus_maykop sample would be to the undiscovered sample from georgia from the same period?

 

[Ben Dover]

@FUCKEEER 19% steppe + decent fit for Tunceli Kurdish average. Tomenable models are pretty decent and close to what qpAdm shows for Kurds.

Target: Kurdish_Zaza_Tunceli
Distance: 2.4804% / 0.02480372
34.0 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA
30.0 Zagros_Mountains_10KYA
19.2 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
10.2 Caucasus_10KYA
5.6 Levant_10KYA
0.8 East_Asia(north)_10KYA
0.2 Western_Siberia_10KYA

 

[Ben Dover]

so.. on average Tunceli Kurds have more steppe than NE Georgians such as khevsurs.

Target: Georgian_Khevsurian
Distance: 2.8035% / 0.02803516
38.2 Caucasus_10KYA
29.8 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA
18.6 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
9.8 Zagros_Mountains_10KYA
3.6 Levant_10KYA

 

[Kurdquistador]

@FUCKEEER 19% steppe + decent fit for Tunceli Kurdish average. Tomenable models are pretty decent and close to what qpAdm shows for Kurds.

Target: Kurdish_Zaza_Tunceli
Distance: 2.4804% / 0.02480372
34.0 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA
30.0 Zagros_Mountains_10KYA
19.2 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
10.2 Caucasus_10KYA
5.6 Levant_10KYA
0.8 East_Asia(north)_10KYA
0.2 Western_Siberia_10KYA

so.. on average Tunceli Kurds have more steppe than NE Georgians such as khevsurs.

Target: Georgian_Khevsurian
Distance: 2.8035% / 0.02803516
38.2 Caucasus_10KYA
29.8 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA
18.6 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
9.8 Zagros_Mountains_10KYA
3.6 Levant_10KYA

on qpAdm onyx modelled Kurds and we are 17 to 22% Steppe

but on this G25 model the Steppe is also including Steppe Caucasus which has muh Iranic in it or something thats why the score is so high . otherwise yamnaya steppe score for Kurds is around 16%

 

[Ben Dover]

on qpAdm onyx modelled Kurds and we are 17 to 22% Steppe

He only modeled 3 academic individual samples. There will be more diversity than that in steppe and overall scores.

but on this G25 model the Steppe is also including Steppe Caucasus which has muh Iranic in it or something thats why the score is so high . otherwise yamnaya steppe score for Kurds is around 16%

I removed all those north caucasian steppe averages and made the model with samara therefore that's not the issue here. This is the way to go if you ask me and the modelings are quite realistic.

 

[Kurdquistador]

He only modeled 3 academic individual samples. There will be more diversity than that in steppe and overall scores.

I removed all those north caucasian steppe averages and made the model with samara therefore that's not the issue here. This is the way to go if you ask me and the modelings are quite realistic.

ah ok nice bro

model me also please :


fuckeeeeer_scaled,0.091058,0.108662,-0.05242,-0.045866,-0.0397,-0.003626,-0.001645,-0.004615,-0.025361,-0.005103,0.001299,-0.004046,0.006095,0.000138,0.004614,0.010342,-0.002477,0.006208,0.015084,-0.011506,-0.003743,-0.003957,0.00419,0.002771,-0.005389

 

[Ben Dover]

ah ok nice bro

model me also please :


fuckeeeeer_scaled,0.091058,0.108662,-0.05242,-0.045866,-0.0397,-0.003626,-0.001645,-0.004615,-0.025361,-0.005103,0.001299,-0.004046,0.006095,0.000138,0.004614,0.010342,-0.002477,0.006208,0.015084,-0.011506,-0.003743,-0.003957,0.00419,0.002771,-0.005389

You have already modeled yourself the exact same way bro. You even posted the modeling in your tomenable thread and you got 16% steppe which sets you on par with adygei in terms of steppe score.

 

[Kurdquistador]

please still run me and post my results here because i dont have them in mind anymore

 

[Ben Dover]

Target: fuckeeeeer_scaled
Distance: 3.4999% / 0.03499946

35.8 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA
34.8 Zagros_Mountains_10KYA
16.0 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
6.4 Levant_10KYA
4.8 Caucasus_10KYA
2.0 East_Asia(north)_10KYA
0.2 South_America(east)_10KYA

 

[Beowulf]

model me pls:
ivorixG25,0.105421,0.145682,0.036388,0.006642,0.037825,-0.001262,-0.001466,0.001163,0.025309,0.022581,-0.004665,0.001705,-0.001046,-0.014251,0.016069,-0.008946,-0.021369,0.00407,0.001474,-0.000102,-0.001223,-0.006309,0.005714,-0.007435,-0.00754

 

[Ben Dover]

model me pls:
ivorixG25,0.105421,0.145682,0.036388,0.006642,0.037825,-0.001262,-0.001466,0.001163,0.025309,0.022581,-0.004665,0.001705,-0.001046,-0.014251,0.016069,-0.008946,-0.021369,0.00407,0.001474,-0.000102,-0.001223,-0.006309,0.005714,-0.007435,-0.00754

Target: ivorixG25
Distance: 4.4404% / 0.04440385
49.4 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA
33.4 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
10.6 Western_Europe_10KYA
6.2 Northwest_Africa_10KYA
0.4 Central_Europe_10KYA

 

[Ben Dover]

@Ivorix the fit isnt amazing but it still isnt worse than some of the the other modelings I've seen of yours.

 

[Beowulf]

thanks a lot