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Eurogenes K12b thread

ImHere

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Arab from Gaza city, Palestine (SNP: 153K):


Western European
2.91 Pct​
Siberian
0.17 Pct​
East African
14.07 Pct​
West Central Asian
6.75 Pct​
South Asian
2.69 Pct​
West African
3.46 Pct​
Caucasus
25.87 Pct​
Finnish
0.26 Pct​
Mediterranean
18.97 Pct​
Southwest Asian
21.16 Pct​
North European
3.3 Pct​
East Asian
0.37 Pct​







Arab from Palestine, (SNP: 160K):



Western European
0.5 Pct​
Siberian
0.56 Pct​
East African
8.31 Pct​
West Central Asian
12.34 Pct​
South Asian
0.71 Pct​
West African
0.22 Pct​
Caucasus
25.1 Pct​
Finnish
0.4 Pct​
Mediterranean
26.02 Pct​
Southwest Asian
25.85 Pct​
North European
-​
East Asian
-​
 

ImHere

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Arab from Tel Aviv, Israel(Palestine), (SNP: 161K):



Western European
2.17 Pct​
Siberian
-​
East African
7.67 Pct​
West Central Asian
8.85 Pct​
South Asian
-​
West African
3.42 Pct​
Caucasus
19.89 Pct​
Finnish
-​
Mediterranean
24.39 Pct​
Southwest Asian
32.63 Pct​
North European
-​
East Asian
0.96 Pct​







Arab from Qalqilyah, Palestine (SNP: 169K):



Western European
1.55 Pct​
Siberian
0.67 Pct​
East African
6.86 Pct​
West Central Asian
9.21 Pct​
South Asian
-​
West African
-​
Caucasus
27.38 Pct​
Finnish
-​
Mediterranean
27.42 Pct​
Southwest Asian
23.49 Pct​
North European
1.71 Pct​
East Asian
1.71 Pct​
 

ImHere

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Arab from Tulkarm, Palestine (SNP: 50K):



Western European
0.22 Pct​
Siberian
-​
East African
6.08 Pct​
West Central Asian
6.82 Pct​
South Asian
2.24 Pct​
West African
2.92 Pct​
Caucasus
27.23 Pct​
Finnish
-​
Mediterranean
26.77 Pct​
Southwest Asian
25.36 Pct​
North European
1.19 Pct​
East Asian
1.17 Pct​









Arab from Ramallah, Palestine (SNP: 161K):



Western European
4.99 Pct​
Siberian
0.46 Pct​
East African
8.26 Pct​
West Central Asian
10.76 Pct​
South Asian
-​
West African
-​
Caucasus
25.98 Pct​
Finnish
-​
Mediterranean
24.86 Pct​
Southwest Asian
22.53 Pct​
North European
0.8 Pct​
East Asian
1.34 Pct​
 

ImHere

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And thats pretty much all the palestinian samples i could post, which im confident about being from Palestine
 

ImHere

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10% african (east african + west african) seems to be nothing rare for palestinians
Keep in mind eurogenes k12b can increase the SSA for these palestinians up to 2% extra in comparison to HW and usually 1%-1,5% extra(HW is likely more accurate when it comes to SSA in levantines)
 

ImHere

Well-known member
Arab from Madinah, Ibb, Yemen (SNP: 169K):



Western European
-​
Siberian
-​
East African
14.7 Pct​
West Central Asian
3.41 Pct​
South Asian
-​
West African
-​
Caucasus
13 Pct​
Finnish
-​
Mediterranean
21.83 Pct​
Southwest Asian
46.57 Pct​
North European
-​
East Asian
0.48 Pct​







Arab from Sanaa, Yemen (SNP: 70K):


Western European
-​
Siberian
-​
East African
12.57 Pct​
West Central Asian
6.09 Pct​
South Asian
-​
West African
-​
Caucasus
15.21 Pct​
Finnish
-​
Mediterranean
18.25 Pct​
Southwest Asian
47.82 Pct​
North European
-​
East Asian
0.06 Pct​
 

ImHere

Well-known member
Yes vengeance, we get it. Its silly west asians are put into "MENA" basket, when "MENA's" are so different to each other, when you put yemenites and palestinians.

Yes, Kurds share same components with euros and are white. And people on anthroforums are silly and wrong. Yes, we know you posted 197929739279 pics of kurds to prove the people who says you cherrypicked. We get it
 

Ben Dover

Moderator
Staff member
Country
India
Well, you gotta have kit one one single. Then post it in "one-to-many" option and look for more samaritans(i bet there be lots of them on gedmatch)
It's too bad that I don't have a single Samaritan kit. If you have one then please post tell me about it and I will do the rest
 

Kurdquistador

Moderator
Staff member
Yes vengeance, we get it. Its silly west asians are put into "MENA" basket, when "MENA's" are so different to each other, when you put yemenites and palestinians.

Yes, Kurds share same components with euros and are white. And people on anthroforums are silly and wrong. Yes, we know you posted 197929739279 pics of kurds to prove the people who says you cherrypicked. We get it

?

i didnt say anything
 

ImHere

Well-known member
?

i didnt say anything
Sorry, but whenever there's some sort of ethnicity mentioned from south/east(like arabs with SSA, south asians, etc) you many times have to say how different kurds are, and how people are BS'tting on anthroforums.

I felt like you were going to say it here again, so i just said it in case
 

Kurdquistador

Moderator
Staff member
Sorry, but whenever there's some sort of ethnicity mentioned from south/east(like arabs with SSA, south asians, etc) you many times have to say how different kurds are, and how people are BS on anthroforums.

I felt like you were going to say it here again, so i just said it in case

nope . i wasnt going to
 

Nassbean

Well-known member
yes but only part
it would be good if someone puts the k12b results of these ancient southern levantines so we compare but at least some of this east african component might be ancient for some levantine groups :

A striking finding from our study is the consistent detection of 3–5% sub-Saharan African ancestry in the 8 diverse Jewish groups we studied, Ashkenazis (from northern Europe), Sephardis (from Italy, Turkey and Greece), and Mizrahis (from Syria, Iran and Iraq). This pattern has not been detected in previous analyses of mitochondrial DNA and Y chromosome data [7], and although it can be seen when re-examining published results of STRUCTURE-like analyses of autosomal data, it was not highlighted in those studies, or shown to unambiguously reflect sub-Saharan African admixture [15], [38]. We estimate that the average date of the mixture of 72 generations (∼2,000 years assuming 29 years per generation [30]) is older than that in Southern Europeans or other Levantines. The point estimates over all 8 populations are between 1,600–3,400 years ago, but with largely overlapping confidence intervals. It is intriguing that the Mizrahi Irani and Iraqi Jews—who are thought to descend at least in part from Jews who were exiled to Babylon about 2,600 years ago [39], [40]—share the signal of African admixture. (An important caveat is that there is significant heterogeneity in the dates of African mixture in various Jewish populations.) A parsimonious explanation for these observations is that they reflect a history in which many of the Jewish groups descend from a common ancestral population which was itself admixed with Africans, prior to the beginning of the Jewish diaspora that occurred in 8th to 6th century BC [41]. The dates that emerge from our ROLLOFF analysis in the non-Mizrahi Jews could also reflect events in the Greek and Roman periods, when there were large communities of Jews in North Africa, particularly Alexandria [34], [42]. We detect a similar African mixture proportion in the non-Jewish Druze (4.4±0.4%) although the date is more recent (54±7 generations; 44±7 after the bias correction). Algorithms such as PCA and STRUCTURE show that various Jewish populations cluster with Druze [15], which coupled with the similarity in mixture proportions, is consistent with descent from a common ancestral population. Importantly, the other Levantine populations (Bedouins and Palestinians) do not share this similarity in the African mixture pattern with Jews and Druze, making them distinct in their admixture history.

 

ImHere

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the east african component itself is part middle eastern/natufian
This is why it increases from HW to eurogones. I dont believe thats the case for HW east-african component, as somalis are 60% "E-african"+ w-african on HW, and are usually 60% SSA themselves on g25 and likely other dna tools
 
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