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classify these mongolians

Ezio1

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He looks very Jomon admixed, and I know it is his hairstyle that gives that away.
Just made his hair in that style, nothing exotic looking.
Looks like a Hokkaidoan who made his hair in that style, doesn't look anything like the curly hair which Australoid Melanesians have.
He looks very Jamon for sure, just a bit exotic for a Japanese, he kinda stands out.
Here is a reconstruction of a Jamon. Interesting people
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RobGorman

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He looks very Jamon for sure, just a bit exotic for a Japanese, he kinda stands out.
Here is a reconstruction of a Jamon. Interesting people
View attachment 5840
Yeah, and the Jomons are the hairiest out of all other Mongoloids, do to them having more percentage of Hybrid-Denisovan DNA than any other Mongoloids(but Australoids have the most Denisovan DNA).
Jomons genetically correlate with Tibetans, and Andamanese.
The Native Andamanese, who have black skin, and peppercorn hair, believe it, or not, are Mongoloids(Shown by their Skull Shape, and DNA), genetically closer to Tibetans, and Jomons, than they are to Negroid Africans.
 

RobGorman

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He looks very Jamon for sure, just a bit exotic for a Japanese, he kinda stands out.
Here is a reconstruction of a Jamon. Interesting people
View attachment 5840
The Jomons where much darker than Filipinos, and had wide broad nose, and thicker lips, more similar to Aboriginal-Australians, except they are Mongoloids, and not Australoids.
They didn't had the thick browridge like Australoids, of course.
Okinawan-Japanese in average, are 19% Jomon, and 81% Yayoi(The ancestors of the Japanese that originated from Central Asia to Siberia).
Hokkaidoans are 10% Jomon, and 90% Jomon(Ainus are a Northern Jomon tribe).
Yamato-Japanese(Ethnic Majority of Japan) barely has no Jomon heritage, just as Hokkaidoans, and Okinawans do, and reason why majority of Yamato-Japanese could barely grow any facial hair when getting older.
 

Ponto

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tuvans are turkic not mongolic
Well, people can language change. It happened in Turkey did it not. The Tuvans have those narrow, slit eyes of east Siberian people. But, Siberian or Mongolian or Tibetan, they are Mongoloid sub races.
 

Ponto

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The Jomons where much darker than Filipinos, and had wide broad nose, and thicker lips, more similar to Aboriginal-Australians, except they are Mongoloids, and not Australoids.
They didn't had the thick browridge like Australoids, of course.
Okinawan-Japanese in average, are 19% Jomon, and 81% Yayoi(The ancestors of the Japanese that originated from Central Asia to Siberia).
Hokkaidoans are 10% Jomon, and 90% Jomon(Ainus are a Northern Jomon tribe).
Yamato-Japanese(Ethnic Majority of Japan) barely has no Jomon heritage, just as Hokkaidoans, and Okinawans do, and reason why majority of Yamato-Japanese could barely grow any facial hair when getting older.
I don't know about the darker skin, and broader nose of the Ainu. They are hairy. A lot of Japanese Yamato women hardly have any pubic hair.
 

KARABOĞA

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Country
Turkey
Well, people can language change. It happened in Turkey did it not. The Tuvans have those narrow, slit eyes of east Siberian people. But, Siberian or Mongolian or Tibetan, they are Mongoloid sub races.
some parts like eastern black sea yes but in general no. they mixed not assimilate.
 

Ponto

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some parts like eastern black sea yes but in general no. they mixed not assimilate.
Apologies for going off topic. So are you saying the Seljuks and Osmanli Turks came into Anatolia when the Anatolian people were already Turkic speakers?
 

KARABOĞA

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Turkey
Apologies for going off topic. So are you saying the Seljuks and Osmanli Turks came into Anatolia when the Anatolian people were already Turkic speakers?
no they were greek speaker but you know that we’re not anatolian or pontic greek and genetically different from them.
 

KARABOĞA

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Turkey
no they were greek speaker but you know that we’re not anatolian or pontic greek and genetically different from them.
and seljuks mixed with them that's why modern turkish genetic profile is like greek anatolian + turkic oghuz
 

Ponto

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and seljuks mixed with them that's why modern turkish genetic profile is like greek anatolian + turkic oghuz
I am referring to language change not what they looked like either the Seljuks or the Anatolian residents.
Back to the discussion, that Jomon reconstruction has a wispy, Mongolian race beard. Wouldn't the Jomon have been hairy like the Ainu?
 

KARABOĞA

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Turkey
I am referring to language change not what they looked like either the Seljuks or the Anatolian residents.
Back to the discussion, that Jomon reconstruction has a wispy, Mongolian race beard. Wouldn't the Jomon have been hairy like the Ainu?
yes but idk how they mixed maybe they are turkified and assimilated or they disappeared cuz of mixed with turks or even something like raping but rape can't make such a big impact because according to genetic results, officially modern turks have a 50/50 mix.
 

KARABOĞA

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Turkey
yes but idk how they mixed maybe they are turkified and assimilated or they disappeared cuz of mixed with turks or even something like raping but rape can't make such a big impact because according to genetic results, officially modern turks have a 50/50 mix.
its similar case like latin americans
 

Ponto

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yes but idk how they mixed maybe they are turkified and assimilated or they disappeared cuz of mixed with turks or even something like raping but rape can't make such a big impact because according to genetic results, officially modern turks have a 50/50 mix.
I think rape gets over emphasized. In Latin American and North America, those slave women and native American women went quite willingly into those relationships. Why not? It is better to be a lighter skinned slave working in the house rather one slaving under high humidity and hot sun.
 
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