classify /state the main types among us in this kurdish set

[Kurdquistador]

people give me a lot of hate because i say that persians look different from kurds . but they do

because even many of the iranians that dont look like the people from the basketball match still look different from us .

i am surprised by the fact that iranians dont have a big overlap with us too .

interestingly IMO persians more often overlap with lebanese than with us . i even mistook the owner of the kiosk here next to me who is iranian as lebanese . but iranians in general have their own distinctive iranian look much of the time . basically an iranian version of the northern west asian sphere

and yes there are some iranians who look south asian-oid . you will not find people like them among us in turkey etc. .

i guess it makes sense since iran is bordering pakistan etc. . and there seems to have been geneflow which we kurds and other people of northern western asia have been isolated from

 

[Guti]

Maybe you can't pass as a Persian, but I can pass as a Persian. I don't think I would stand out in Teheran.

 

[Kurdquistador]

Maybe you can't pass as a Persian, but I can pass as a Persian.

weird response

it is not that we cant pass as persian . it is rather that many persians cant pass as kurds

anybody who claims that persians like these can pass as kurds is lying to himself and is just going by conformistic train jumping to please other idiots who base their opinion solely ignorantly on the fact that we are iranic speakers . period

 

[Guti]

How do you know tat those who can't pass as Kurds are Persians? Maybe they are Turkmen, Azery or even Gypsies. Maybe they are mixed with all of them. In Iran live many ethnic groups and only 50% of them are real Persians. And how many of them are really unmixed with the other groups?

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I think that the real unmixed Persian from West Iran would pass in Kurdistan.

 

[Kurdquistador]

because there were too many "odd" looking (i dont mean it in an offensive way) people in the team . and in general there are many iranians who look off

and even many of the iranians who dont look like that (i know many iranians in real life) dont look kurdish either and have their own specific iranian look .

 

[Guti]

Those people in your 2 pictures don't look Persian. Those have most likely Gypsy/Turkic ancestry. 25% of Iran has Turkic/Azeri as their native language.

I think this is what you get when you mix Azeris/Turcoman with Gypsies..

 

[Kurdquistador]

there are too many iranians that look like them .

you are talking so much nonsense sometimes . in eastern turkey we have WAY more gypsies than iran does (and no i will not discuss this again . it is a fact) while being geographically a lot smaller than iran . yet when i state the fact that there are many gypsies in eastern turkey that larp as kurds and that some kurds mixed with them and that many people in these anthroforums wrongly have a look in mind that approxes our gypsies when they think of kurds . you go on full batshit mode and say i am wrong . yet persians "can not look like this " because of gypsies even though gypsies in iran are WAY less in number than turkey and iran is a much larger landmass


dude stop it . and dont respond . i have no time and no nerves to discuss with you because you are creating your own world in your head and dont accept anything that doesnt fit your concepts

there are a decent amount of persians who will score elevated south asian on calcs like dodecad k12b , eurogenes k12b . some score 10% there . such a score is ridiculously high for any west asian population . southern and eastern iranians get even more . and that will show on the face and color of a decent chunk of persians too ....like in these men

i am not saying that these men are typical . not at all . however the fact of the matter is that there are many "odd" looking persians like them and they look nothing like us . and even persians who look "normal" northern west asian often dont look kurdish because they have their own distinctively iranian look most of the time

 

[Kurdquistador]

by the way i will post the whole team photos soon

and the player above that i posted the pic of is from isfahan according to an iranian forum buddy . i asked him what his ethnicity is . i am waiting

but here is another pic of him :

i will post the others soon

 

[Kurdquistador]

^ so the guy is apperently PERSIAN from shiraz . my iranian buddy made research

so guti there you go

however he also said that he is atypical . which i also say from the beginning . however there are enough persians that look like that

will post more paralympic sportspeople from iran soon ...

 

[Kurdquistador]

so here are some iranians that i picked out from the paralympics because they are the most "odd" looking ones . there were some more but these are the most exotic

look at the kurds in the OP and then look at these iranians (most likely mostly persians) and if you believe they look similar i recommend you to go to an eye specialist

and of course :

 

[ImHere]

people give me a lot of hate because i say that persians look different from kurds . but they do

because even many of the iranians that dont look like the people from the basketball match still look different from us .

i am surprised by the fact that iranians dont have a big overlap with us too .

interestingly IMO persians more often overlap with lebanese than with us . i even mistook the owner of the kiosk here next to me who is iranian as lebanese . but iranians in general have their own distinctive iranian look much of the time . basically an iranian version of the northern west asian sphere

and yes there are some iranians who look south asian-oid . you will not find people like them among us in turkey etc. .

i guess it makes sense since iran is bordering pakistan etc. . and there seems to have been geneflow which we kurds and other people of northern western asia have been isolated from

To be fair, you can. I have some examples myself, but theyre MUCH MUCH MUCH lower in % in comparison to the ones of iranians. Likely around 10000+ at most(talking about the ones without gypsie ancestry).

Also, yeah, levantines do look a lot like iranians. Seen some examples myself

 

[ImHere]

Those people in your 2 pictures don't look Persian. Those have most likely Gypsy/Turkic ancestry. 25% of Iran has Turkic/Azeri as their native language.

I think this is what you get when you mix Azeris/Turcoman with Gypsies..

They dont need either of that ancestry to look like that. Seen some examples myself(even posted some).

A good amount of iranians can pass east, even ones from more west in iran

 

[ImHere]

so here are some iranians that i picked out from the paralympics because they are the most "odd" looking ones . there were some more but these are the most exotic

look at the kurds in the OP and then look at these iranians (most likely mostly persians) and if you believe they look similar i recommend you to go to an eye specialist

and of course :

They can either pass as pakistanis/nw south asians, balochis and such. Not that everyone of them passes as both balochi and pakistani(rather either). Some passes as north africans.

Anyways, these types can be found everywhere. Even in north iran, like these persian guys(theyre not even that hard to find, though not super common. And its Tabriz we're talking about):

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[Kurdquistador]

To be fair, you can. I have some examples myself, but theyre MUCH MUCH MUCH lower in % in comparison to the ones of iranians. Likely around 10000+ at most(talking about the ones without gypsie ancestry).

Also, yeah, levantines do look a lot like iranians. Seen some examples myself

no bro . such people do not exist in us . if you see anybody from turkey looking like these : then they are gypsies and not ethnic kurds or turks or laz or circassian etc

i would say it if it existed . no problem . i would embrace it . but such kurds do not exist .

 

[ImHere]

no bro . such people do not exist in us . if you see anybody from turkey looking like these : then they are gypsies and not ethnic kurds or turks or laz or circassian etc

i would say it if it existed . no problem . i would embrace it . but such kurds do not exist .

Honestly, they do:



Im 100% this eregli turk has no gypsie ancestry and such, because i seen his DNA results.

But i DO agree with you they almost dont exist at all(they make maybe at max 0.001% of Turkey, which is barely existing). His type is VERY VERY extremely uncommon. Its honestly far easier to find a south asian passing person from north west iran than from Turkey. That i agree with you on.




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Just for fun, i edited his pic to see what he looks like without his giant mustache:

 

[Kurdquistador]

but he doesnt look like the 2 men i posted above . he is not typical yes but he is still not that much out of the "norm" as them

but this is also a problem .....it depends on who is the observer . to me that turk doesnt look like those iranians . i remember i guessed him as iraqi ....not pakistani or indian etc

so some of the people from turkey you are talking about are probably not even THAT exotic in general but to you they are

however i can attest you that there are no kurds looking this this AT ALL :

 

[ImHere]

but he doesnt look like the 2 men i posted above . he is not typical yes but he is still not that much out of the "norm" as them

but this is also a problem .....it depends on who is the observer . to me that turk doesnt look like those iranians . i remember i guessed him as iraqi ....not pakistani or indian etc

so some of the people from turkey you are talking about are probably not even THAT exotic in general but to you they are

however i can attest you that there are no kurds looking this this AT ALL :

The other did guess pakistani/indian. You probably did that because you werent too sure.

Honestly, the guy can fit in easily as nw south asian, even if he doesnt look like the men(who fits more east even of Pakistan), considering his jaw(being almost wider than forehead), forehead, nose, eyes and ears as well(+ lips too). Only thing thats different is the lighter skin colour.

Anyways, doesnt matter. Youre right. You cant find turks looking like those men you posted. Specially the bottom guy

 

[Kurdquistador]

no i saw that he is probably not south asian . i thought iraq iran and iirc maybe turkmenistan

and yes there are no turks AND kurds like them

doesnt matter in the end . i am only interested in taxonomy and i always want the truth to come out no matter how trivia the topic is . otherwise it is not important and its not as if these men are not human or some shit lol

i am just saying that many iranians do not look kurdish at all

 

[Kurdquistador]

@Merd

maybe you want to classify our people ?

it seems nobody wants to . lol

 

[Flik]

For me, most pass in Europe.

There are DInaro-Meds, Alpine-Meds, Meds-CM, East-Meds, two Pontids and even some who look West Med and other types.
The more West Asian looking ones look Med/Armenoid and two men who look Iranid influenced.