i have found one with almost 6% . that score is not normal
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classify our gypsies
- Thread starter Kurdquistador
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btw. might as well share this
most of my information i gathered on sites and videos that are in turkish language
here is a site that is in english language but the page doesnt exist anymore : http://www.domresearchcenter.com/news/turkey/marsh.html
but i saved some of it . it said :
"The Domari communities of eastern Turkey, like those elsewhere in the region, are one of the least known of all the Gypsy communities in the world. Largely absent from research carried out amongst Gypsy groups in the field of Romani Studies, the Dom of eastern Turkey have remained "hidden" from the view of the scholars and academics in the West since the letters of American missionaries in the late nineteenth century described in brief details their presence in these lands"
" In brief, the Dom of eastern Turkey are the most invisible of all the Gypsy groups."
According to ERRC's Turkey profile (2011-2012) , "the majority of Roma live in Western Anatolia, Thrace, in the Marmara region and the Aegean Sea region while the Dom and Lom groups mostly live in South Eastern and Eastern Turkey". Almost all the Roma in Turkey are Muslims.
most of my information i gathered on sites and videos that are in turkish language
here is a site that is in english language but the page doesnt exist anymore : http://www.domresearchcenter.com/news/turkey/marsh.html
but i saved some of it . it said :
"The Domari communities of eastern Turkey, like those elsewhere in the region, are one of the least known of all the Gypsy communities in the world. Largely absent from research carried out amongst Gypsy groups in the field of Romani Studies, the Dom of eastern Turkey have remained "hidden" from the view of the scholars and academics in the West since the letters of American missionaries in the late nineteenth century described in brief details their presence in these lands"
" In brief, the Dom of eastern Turkey are the most invisible of all the Gypsy groups."
According to ERRC's Turkey profile (2011-2012) , "the majority of Roma live in Western Anatolia, Thrace, in the Marmara region and the Aegean Sea region while the Dom and Lom groups mostly live in South Eastern and Eastern Turkey". Almost all the Roma in Turkey are Muslims.
ok so i would like to add something to the thread :
a few months ago i met a 3/4 kurdish + 1/4 gypsy guy on another site
i have a kit number of a person from iraq who is 1/4 indian (has an indian grandmother) and gets modelled as 80% kurdsh + 20% indian on calculators
and i have another gedmatch kit number of a person who is half kurdish half gypsy ! from turkey
let me first post his / her eurogenes k12b results and compare to mine
keep in mind this person is half gypsy and not even full
:
Western European 6.4 Pct
Siberian 2.26 Pct
East African 1.15 Pct
West Central Asian 15.84 Pct
South Asian 13.63 Pct
West African -
Caucasus 24.5 Pct
Finnish -
Mediterranean 15.52 Pct
Southwest Asian 9.3 Pct
North European 9.12 Pct
East Asian 2.27 Pct
compare with my results :
Western European 4.13 Pct
Siberian 1.63 Pct
East African -
West Central Asian 21.12 Pct
South Asian 1.53 Pct
West African 1.13 Pct
Caucasus 33.97 Pct
Finnish -
Mediterranean 17.98 Pct
Southwest Asian 14.11 Pct
North European 2.99 Pct
East Asian 1.37 Pct
also this is what this person gets as 2 population modelling in harappaworld and mdlp k16
mdlp k16 :
51.7% Roma (Gypsy) + 48.3% Kurd (Syria) @ 3.1
harappaworld (romanian b = gypsy reference) :
53.8% romanian-b (behar) + 46.2% kurd (harappa) @ 3.54
ok so to make a summary :
- there are a lot of gypsies in turkey
- there are a good amount of gypsies in kurdish regions . the numbers are highly underestimated . i have read into this and i can tell you our gypsies are one of the most unknown
- many of our gypsies larp as turkish or kurdish
- even though many kurds dont mix with them ...some kurds have assimilated them . and there are people who are kurdish + gypsy mixes . like the dude on another site i met a few days ago who is 3/4 kurdish and 1/4 gypsy . or the result i posted above of a person who is half kurdish half gypsy . and we shall not forget the kit number i have of the person who is not gypsy but 1/4 indian 3/4 iraqi ...so such people exist too in small amounts too. and i bet that many of such people who are mixed will just claim they are kurdish to people . iirc the 1/4 gypsy guy just claimed to be kurdish in his thread after people guessed him as ethnicites .
and dont forget that we also have many arabs in east / southeast turkey . and there are also kurdish arab mixes . but to be fair many of them can pass as kurdish because the arabs in turkey are levantine like
- there are turks that hate kurds and many turks online say nonsense about kurds and misportray us . they also say in gypsy videos that they are kurds etc.
so everything that i said comes out as the truth in the end
so do you see a pattern now ?
do you understand now that we are misportrayed ? that people have a wrong idea of what kurds are and how we look like ?
pretty happy that what i say shows on the surface more and more .
a few months ago i met a 3/4 kurdish + 1/4 gypsy guy on another site
i have a kit number of a person from iraq who is 1/4 indian (has an indian grandmother) and gets modelled as 80% kurdsh + 20% indian on calculators
and i have another gedmatch kit number of a person who is half kurdish half gypsy ! from turkey
let me first post his / her eurogenes k12b results and compare to mine
keep in mind this person is half gypsy and not even full
:
Western European 6.4 Pct
Siberian 2.26 Pct
East African 1.15 Pct
West Central Asian 15.84 Pct
South Asian 13.63 Pct
West African -
Caucasus 24.5 Pct
Finnish -
Mediterranean 15.52 Pct
Southwest Asian 9.3 Pct
North European 9.12 Pct
East Asian 2.27 Pct
compare with my results :
Western European 4.13 Pct
Siberian 1.63 Pct
East African -
West Central Asian 21.12 Pct
South Asian 1.53 Pct
West African 1.13 Pct
Caucasus 33.97 Pct
Finnish -
Mediterranean 17.98 Pct
Southwest Asian 14.11 Pct
North European 2.99 Pct
East Asian 1.37 Pct
also this is what this person gets as 2 population modelling in harappaworld and mdlp k16
mdlp k16 :
51.7% Roma (Gypsy) + 48.3% Kurd (Syria) @ 3.1
harappaworld (romanian b = gypsy reference) :
53.8% romanian-b (behar) + 46.2% kurd (harappa) @ 3.54
ok so to make a summary :
- there are a lot of gypsies in turkey
- there are a good amount of gypsies in kurdish regions . the numbers are highly underestimated . i have read into this and i can tell you our gypsies are one of the most unknown
- many of our gypsies larp as turkish or kurdish
- even though many kurds dont mix with them ...some kurds have assimilated them . and there are people who are kurdish + gypsy mixes . like the dude on another site i met a few days ago who is 3/4 kurdish and 1/4 gypsy . or the result i posted above of a person who is half kurdish half gypsy . and we shall not forget the kit number i have of the person who is not gypsy but 1/4 indian 3/4 iraqi ...so such people exist too in small amounts too. and i bet that many of such people who are mixed will just claim they are kurdish to people . iirc the 1/4 gypsy guy just claimed to be kurdish in his thread after people guessed him as ethnicites .
and dont forget that we also have many arabs in east / southeast turkey . and there are also kurdish arab mixes . but to be fair many of them can pass as kurdish because the arabs in turkey are levantine like
- there are turks that hate kurds and many turks online say nonsense about kurds and misportray us . they also say in gypsy videos that they are kurds etc.
so everything that i said comes out as the truth in the end
so do you see a pattern now ?
do you understand now that we are misportrayed ? that people have a wrong idea of what kurds are and how we look like ?
pretty happy that what i say shows on the surface more and more .
and this is the eurogenes k12b result of the half ssa half "turkish" guy i was talking about in the kurdish gallery thread . who i saw / met on another site
his "turkish" side is obviously heavily mixed with gypsy . he scores 11.6% south asian on 23andme which is enough to make conclusions but his 9.85% south asian score in eurogenes k12b pretty much seals the deal
and remember he is half "turkish" . this means his father would get around 19% south asian .
he said that his father just says that they are turkish . they are from gaziantep . gaziantep is in southeastern turkey .
so this is one more proof on my side that we have a considerable amount of gypsies in eastern turkey . i told you so guys ....
i am on phone . will edit this post later and / or will add another post
his "turkish" side is obviously heavily mixed with gypsy . he scores 11.6% south asian on 23andme which is enough to make conclusions but his 9.85% south asian score in eurogenes k12b pretty much seals the deal
and remember he is half "turkish" . this means his father would get around 19% south asian .
he said that his father just says that they are turkish . they are from gaziantep . gaziantep is in southeastern turkey .
so this is one more proof on my side that we have a considerable amount of gypsies in eastern turkey . i told you so guys ....
i am on phone . will edit this post later and / or will add another post
| Population | |
| Western European | 1.87 Pct |
| Siberian | 0.25 Pct |
| East African | 3.33 Pct |
| West Central Asian | 9.46 Pct |
| South Asian | 9.85 Pct |
| West African | 45.96 Pct |
| Caucasus | 12.45 Pct |
| Finnish | - |
| Mediterranean | 5.26 Pct |
| Southwest Asian | 5.44 Pct |
| North European | 1.9 Pct |
| East Asian | 4.22 Pct |
- Country
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They look like a mix of Caucasoid, Mongoloid, & Australoid.
by the way i have more kit numbers of gypsy mixed people from turkey . and also full gypsies . but i wont even bother posting them anymore
there are even more gypsies and mixed people in turkey than i even thought it seems
there are even more gypsies and mixed people in turkey than i even thought it seems
on youtube i got insulted in kurdish language by a guy for saying that this gypsy man from mardin is gypsy . he is very obviously a gypsy and also plays the gypsy instrument
another guy also jumped on me
so stating the obvious that gypsies are not kurds but gypsies is offensive now . i told you guys . i told you
another guy also jumped on me
so stating the obvious that gypsies are not kurds but gypsies is offensive now . i told you guys . i told you
i only have gypsy kits from iraq and balkans
ok i will post them later
by the way click through this video . they are kurds . except the man who plays the gypsy instrument .....compare the other people with him . he looks clearly different . however he is one of the less obvious gypsy looking gypsies . but his dark skin and undertones in his skin as well as his gold teeth and of course the instrument give it away
by the way click through this video . they are kurds . except the man who plays the gypsy instrument .....compare the other people with him . he looks clearly different . however he is one of the less obvious gypsy looking gypsies . but his dark skin and undertones in his skin as well as his gold teeth and of course the instrument give it away
right now again on youtube i am arguing with a kurdish (zaza ) guy . he got offended that i said that this obvious gypsy man who looks gypsy and plays the gypsy instrument
is not Kurdish .
him and several other Kurds jumped on me for stating the fact that these people are not Kurdish . and they said that the dom are kurdish as fuck
and they give the reasoning that these people speak kurdish so well and have taken the kurdish culture etc. . one even didnt give only such reasons but straight up thinks they are kurdish ethnically . what a joke
and you still question me ? you still question the fact that some Kurds have assimilated them ?
i have done research and there are MANY gypsies in eastern turkey . tiglat lately said that i am making it up . just lol . it is the truth .
our people are donkeys . period . if our people are this stupid then they deserve becoming mixed and lose their racial heritage
is not Kurdish .
him and several other Kurds jumped on me for stating the fact that these people are not Kurdish . and they said that the dom are kurdish as fuck
and they give the reasoning that these people speak kurdish so well and have taken the kurdish culture etc. . one even didnt give only such reasons but straight up thinks they are kurdish ethnically . what a joke
and you still question me ? you still question the fact that some Kurds have assimilated them ?
i have done research and there are MANY gypsies in eastern turkey . tiglat lately said that i am making it up . just lol . it is the truth .
our people are donkeys . period . if our people are this stupid then they deserve becoming mixed and lose their racial heritage
read also my last post above
i already said that they do....stop acting as if i am a liar . i am reporting you truth
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Ezio1
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I saw some Gypsies in Spain that look like some of them, that looked pure Gypsy with no European visible in their face. A few May be Indian or Pakistan immigrants, those that work in stores because some looked very Tamil, lol.
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