Classify me and where do I pass?

[Ben Dover]

Ok. But most Georgia Jews I met had 'foreign' admix in them. Georgi the Jewish boy I was talking about, had blood from any ethnic group from Georgia in him, with exception of Kurdish and Azeri/Turkic.

The best friend of my father was a Georgian Jew. He was married with a Georgian women and his family was angry at him. My father helped him and he could live some time in my father’s other house. Later that Jew migrated into Tel Aviv, but he came back and lives now in Moscou. Also many Georgian Jews are now living in Antwerpen.

According to me you don't look Mediterranean. I never claimed that..

Maybe if you met those georgian jews somewhere outside of georgia or in israel. Again I can confirm it that almost no other georgian jew other than myself and some of my family members derive ancestry form a non georgian-jewish population.

 

[Kurdquistador]

Those Mediterranean_Farmers are actually Anatolians, hehe.

Mediterranean Semitic race is more or less Natufian + Anatolian + African + some CHG/Iran_Neo

why are you like this ? whats wrong with you . honestly tell me .

i said 1000 times already that when i say med i dont mean semitics

 

[Ben Dover]

just leaving this here :

Target: Georgian_Jew
Distance: 3.4386% / 0.03438594
39.4 Mediterranean_Farmers
23.8 Neolithic_Iranian
20.2 Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
14.2 Natufian_Hunter_Gatherer
2.4 Eastern_European_Hunter_Gatherers



kurdish result if you are interested to know :



Target: Kurdish
Distance: 2.9503% / 0.02950256
34.6 Mediterranean_Farmers
32.8 Neolithic_Iranian
17.6 Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
8.4 Natufian_Hunter_Gatherer
6.6 Eastern_European_Hunter_Gatherers

Even the result you represented here can be assigned to georgian jews because it looks very northern mesopotamian, south-eastern anatolian like and that's where goergian jews would plot probably. A bit north to Assyrians.

 

[Kurdquistador]

Even the result you represented here can be assigned to georgian jews because it looks very northern mesopotamian, south-eastern anatolian like and that's where goergian jews would plot probably. A bit north to Assyrians.

the point is that the mditerranean farmer is very strong in you and in me too . but levantines have more natufian than you and a lot more than me . only because they have more of the med farmer it doesnt mean that they have the monopole of "medness" .

and neither does med mean european either

Target: skidrow_scaled
Distance: 3.6478% / 0.03647771
39.2 Mediterranean_Farmers
33.2 Neolithic_Iranian
11.8 Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
7.6 Natufian_Hunter_Gatherer
5.8 Eastern_European_Hunter_Gatherers
2.4 Mongoloid

 

[Ben Dover]

the point is that the mditerranean farmer is very strong in you and in me too . but levantines have more natufian than you and a lot more than me . only because they have more of the med farmer it doesnt mean that they have the monopole of "medness" .

and neither does med mean european either

Target: skidrow_scaled
Distance: 3.6478% / 0.03647771
39.2 Mediterranean_Farmers
33.2 Neolithic_Iranian
11.8 Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
7.6 Natufian_Hunter_Gatherer
5.8 Eastern_European_Hunter_Gatherers
2.4 Mongoloid

that wasn't my personal result was it? That was a georgian jewish average result. Anyway, some georgian jews might score as much natufian as you tho. It is reasonable to think that way. In my case I would score a bit differently. Not only with less natufian but with more CHG and probably a bit more neolithic iranian. Goddamn I am tired of speculations. I gotta do a test in the near future.

 

[Ben Dover]

Nothing against you my man.


But I don't want to be associated with the Mediterranean Southern Europeans and the Levantine people. I don't like that.

My people are much more 'northern' people. I have at least twice more ANE ancestry in me than all those Mediterraneans, be it from Europe be it from the Levant.

Are you kurdish?

 

[Ben Dover]

Ezdi Kurd from Georgia

Do you think you are more "northern" shifted than georgian jews?

 

[Kurdquistador]

that wasn't my personal result was it? That was a georgian jewish average result or an individual georgian jew's result. It is more likely that it was georgian jewish average. Anyway, some georgian jews might score as much natufian as you tho. It is reasonable to think that way. In my case I would score a bit differently. Not only with less natufian but with more CHG and probably a bit more neolithic iranian. Goddamn I am tired of speculations. I gotta do a test in the near future.

well the georgian jew and kurdish results i posted are from the spreadsheet so they are averages

there are probably georgian jews scoring as little natufian as me but if we want to believe the average score i posted then that would mean that there will be as many georgian jews who will score 22 % natufian or so as much as there are ones that score as much as me . since that is what average means . of course it is debatable how good the reference is ....maybe there should be more georgian jews tested to make a conclusion

but all northern west asians are similar anyway . with a few percent differences in the specific populations

 

[Ben Dover]

well the georgian jew and kurdish results i posted are from the spreadsheet so they are averages

there are probably georgian jews scoring as little natufian as me but if we want to believe the average score i posted then that would mean that there will be as many georgian jews who will score 22 % natufian or so as much as there are ones that score as much as me . since that is what average means . of course it is debatable how good the reference is ....maybe there should be more georgian jews tested to make a conclusion

but all northern west asians are similar anyway . with a few percent differences in the specific populations

The georgian jewish average you represented was from g25 wasn't it?

 

[Kurdquistador]

Nothing against you my man.


But I don't want to be associated with the Mediterranean Southern Europeans and the Levantine people. I don't like that.

My people are much more 'northern' people. I have at least twice more ANE ancestry in me than all those Mediterraneans, be it from Europe, be it from the Levant.

we dont need to be associated with anybody . we are kurds . that is good enough for me . i have no desire to link us to anybody

i am only saying that we have a lot of mediterranean farmer ancestry . and many mediterranid and pontid phenotypes . this is all the truth

it has nothing to do with me trying to become saudi and try to make money with oil

 

[Ben Dover]

100%.

Unless that Georgian Jew is 50% Russian, hehe

Lad, if you are 100% ezidi kurdish than how could you claim that? If you are measuring northern shift by west-central asian component then it's completely silly. How much caucasus do you get btw. You could very well get lower caucasus than a 100% georgian jew

 

[Kurdquistador]

well he is not that wrong to be honest . because georgian jews score more natufian and less EHG than kurds

but i dont care about it . georgian jews from what i have seen online dont look more southern than us . and they are a northern west asian people to me

 

[Kurdquistador]

not only is that calc highly outdated ....but claiming we are more northern than most europeans is fucking nonsense haha

 

[Kurdquistador]

guti this is bullshit

 

[Ben Dover]

I am even more 'northern' shifted than the most Europeans. I am much more 'northern' shifted than people from SOuthern Europe and even people from the Western Europe. I have more 'ANE' ancestry in me than the most Europeans. Maybe some Baltic people have more ANE than I do and they could be a little bit 'northern' shifted than I am.

You can find my ANE results here: https://www.anthroworldforum.com/in...tion-in-the-upper-mesopotamia.730/#post-16659

If that's what you mean then I dunno

 

[Kurdquistador]

lol xD

 

[Ben Dover]

well he is not that wrong to be honest . because georgian jews score more natufian and less EHG than kurds

but i dont care about it . georgian jews from what i have seen online dont look more southern than us . and they are a northern west asian people to me

Let me tell you something. From my point of view a population group that is autosomally at the intersection of northern mesopotamia and anatolia such as geo jews are gonna score more natufian and levantine components since geographically they are still closer to northern levant than kurds from iranian plateau are.

Even some armenians probably score more more natufian than kurds. It doesn't really matter if the armenian is western, eastern or hemshini

 

[Kurdquistador]

Do you want evidence on PCA chart? CHG/Iran_ChL is more 'nosrthern' shifted than the European populations. Wanna bet?

northern in what sense ? what is on the top of the "north" there ? . polar bears ?

 

[Ben Dover]

northern in what sense ? what is on the top of the "north" there ? . polar bears ?

 

[Kurdquistador]

according to your logic japanese are more northern than germans