Classify him and where does he pass?

[Kurdquistador]

so yes my results are closer to georgians because i have more caucasus and more north european .

a typical georgian result :

 

[Kurdquistador]

another typical georgian

 

[Kurdquistador]

This is not how it works my man. I want to see your DISTANCE to the Georgians

What is your DISTANCE to Georgians on DODECAD K12b results. I showed my DISTANCE

thats exactly how it workes my man

and how often do i need to tell you that the georgian reference on dodecad k12b is flawed ? no georgian gets georgian as their fit there

 

[Ben Dover]

Eurogenes k12b is a lot better than dodecad k12b in this regard. I mean even for georgians from the east 54 caucasus is kinda low. That 100% geo jew gets 50% caucasus on dodecad k12b

 

[Kurdquistador]

No it doesn't. My HIGHER Gedrosia pulls me away from the Semites and clusters me closer to the Caucasus, Iran (Lezgins, Ossetians etc.)

stop talking nonsense and accept things how they are

i have more caucasus than you . and georgians have higher caucasus

i have more north european than you . and georgians have more north european

but dont worry i will prove to you that i am closer even more in a second . i wonder what you will say then

 

[Kurdquistador]

Autosomal DNA Testing

this is my top 100 ethnicity list on dodecad k12b on vahaduo . they have georgian references . lets compare

Distance to:	ich
2.27169540	Kurd_Kurmanji
3.48544115	Dersim
3.62323060	Yazidi_Kurd
4.32026620	Turkmen_Iraq
4.98377367	Azerbaijani_Iran
5.15992248	Kurd_Sorani
5.30132059	Azerbaijani_Republic
5.74692091	Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.08165274	Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.44041924	Iranian_Lur
6.84485208	Kurd_Feyli
6.92590788	Turk_Southeast
7.36956579	Iranian_Central
8.18461361	Iranian_Zoroastrian
8.33520846	Udi_Azerbaijan
8.60672992	Iraqi_Baghdad
8.67554609	Iranian_Fars
8.82104302	Turk_East
9.98531422	Turk_Central_East
10.00785192	Mandean
10.56555725	Azeri_Jew
10.62356343	Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.19087128	Assyrian_North
11.37135436	Assyrian_South
11.41727638	Turk_South
11.76788851	Assyrian_West
11.79842786	Iranian_Kerman
12.15985197	Kurdish_Jew
12.19931965	Turk_Central_West
12.23489273	Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.41358530	Iranian_Khorasan
12.47900637	Armenian_East
12.68026025	Armenian_West
12.68493201	Arab_Iran
12.72590272	Iraqi_Jew
13.07157603	Iranian_Mazandaran
13.94962365	Lebanese_Muslim
14.62487607	Nusayri_Turkey
14.72996606	Turk_West_BlackSea
15.09530722	Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
15.13642957	Turk_Southwest
15.14096760	Syrian_Muslim
15.23674506	Iraqi_Arab
15.60663641	Turk_Ahiska
17.05297335	Greek_Cappadocia
17.21201325	Lebanese_Christian
17.47800046	Turk_Northwest
17.54691426	Turk_Cyprus
17.56293540	Turk_East_Black_Sea
17.69296188	Ingush
18.00094164	Kumyk
18.11860646	Adyghe
18.20035714	Greek_Pontus
18.46410030	Palestinian
18.82517995	Abazin
18.85113790	Kabardin
18.90608632	Hemshin
19.15605648	Circassian
19.22169087	Jordanian_Muslim
19.22220071	Karachay
19.40498390	Ossetian
19.41744834	Greek_Cypriot
19.63407243	Parsi_India
19.72556717	Palestinian_Christian
19.77222294	Laz
19.86278178	Lezgin
19.92219114	Chechen
20.06870449	Balkar
20.09644247	Syrian_SW_Christian
20.46721525	Greek_Kos
20.57497509	Greek_Rhodes
20.57781572	Ossetian_South
20.73989151	Jordanian_Christian
21.12992664	Tabasaran
21.13454282	Abkhazian
21.38707086	Greek_Crete
21.88286544	Turkmen_Iran
22.66416334	Greek_Fournoi
22.86816127	Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
22.96343180	Iranian_Bandari
23.13385182	Lak
23.25688930	Georgian_West
23.67828541	Greek_Izmir
23.96818725	Tajik_Herat
24.16916838	Avar
24.37275938	Greek_Icaria
24.46731289	Dargin_Kubachi
24.59271437	Greek_Lemnos
24.82944623	Italian_Jews
24.87588993	Italian_Calabria
24.94484115	Sephardic_Jews
24.96854021	Dargin_Kaitag
25.23462898	Italian_Basilicata
25.28785479	Moldovan_Jewish
25.80564861	Ashkenazi_Jews
25.88577409	Dargin
25.93246035	Italian_Sicily
26.38563624	Italian_Apulia
26.69169534	Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
26.77185649	Greek_Foca

 

[Ben Dover]

Autosomal DNA Testing

this is my top 100 ethnicity list on dodecad k12b on vahaduo . they have georgian references . lets compare

Distance to:	ich
2.27169540	Kurd_Kurmanji
3.48544115	Dersim
3.62323060	Yazidi_Kurd
4.32026620	Turkmen_Iraq
4.98377367	Azerbaijani_Iran
5.15992248	Kurd_Sorani
5.30132059	Azerbaijani_Republic
5.74692091	Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.08165274	Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.44041924	Iranian_Lur
6.84485208	Kurd_Feyli
6.92590788	Turk_Southeast
7.36956579	Iranian_Central
8.18461361	Iranian_Zoroastrian
8.33520846	Udi_Azerbaijan
8.60672992	Iraqi_Baghdad
8.67554609	Iranian_Fars
8.82104302	Turk_East
9.98531422	Turk_Central_East
10.00785192	Mandean
10.56555725	Azeri_Jew
10.62356343	Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.19087128	Assyrian_North
11.37135436	Assyrian_South
11.41727638	Turk_South
11.76788851	Assyrian_West
11.79842786	Iranian_Kerman
12.15985197	Kurdish_Jew
12.19931965	Turk_Central_West
12.23489273	Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.41358530	Iranian_Khorasan
12.47900637	Armenian_East
12.68026025	Armenian_West
12.68493201	Arab_Iran
12.72590272	Iraqi_Jew
13.07157603	Iranian_Mazandaran
13.94962365	Lebanese_Muslim
14.62487607	Nusayri_Turkey
14.72996606	Turk_West_BlackSea
15.09530722	Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
15.13642957	Turk_Southwest
15.14096760	Syrian_Muslim
15.23674506	Iraqi_Arab
15.60663641	Turk_Ahiska
17.05297335	Greek_Cappadocia
17.21201325	Lebanese_Christian
17.47800046	Turk_Northwest
17.54691426	Turk_Cyprus
17.56293540	Turk_East_Black_Sea
17.69296188	Ingush
18.00094164	Kumyk
18.11860646	Adyghe
18.20035714	Greek_Pontus
18.46410030	Palestinian
18.82517995	Abazin
18.85113790	Kabardin
18.90608632	Hemshin
19.15605648	Circassian
19.22169087	Jordanian_Muslim
19.22220071	Karachay
19.40498390	Ossetian
19.41744834	Greek_Cypriot
19.63407243	Parsi_India
19.72556717	Palestinian_Christian
19.77222294	Laz
19.86278178	Lezgin
19.92219114	Chechen
20.06870449	Balkar
20.09644247	Syrian_SW_Christian
20.46721525	Greek_Kos
20.57497509	Greek_Rhodes
20.57781572	Ossetian_South
20.73989151	Jordanian_Christian
21.12992664	Tabasaran
21.13454282	Abkhazian
21.38707086	Greek_Crete
21.88286544	Turkmen_Iran
22.66416334	Greek_Fournoi
22.86816127	Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
22.96343180	Iranian_Bandari
23.13385182	Lak
23.25688930	Georgian_West
23.67828541	Greek_Izmir
23.96818725	Tajik_Herat
24.16916838	Avar
24.37275938	Greek_Icaria
24.46731289	Dargin_Kubachi
24.59271437	Greek_Lemnos
24.82944623	Italian_Jews
24.87588993	Italian_Calabria
24.94484115	Sephardic_Jews
24.96854021	Dargin_Kaitag
25.23462898	Italian_Basilicata
25.28785479	Moldovan_Jewish
25.80564861	Ashkenazi_Jews
25.88577409	Dargin
25.93246035	Italian_Sicily
26.38563624	Italian_Apulia
26.69169534	Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
26.77185649	Greek_Foca

Nice results. Did you simply copy and paste your gedmatch dodecad k12b results into vahaduo k12b updated version or did you modify the results? I am interested

 

[Kurdquistador]

gutis distances

i am closer to georgians as i said . case closed

Distance to:	Guti
2.95201626	Yazidi_Kurd
3.53041074	Iranian_Lur
3.63012396	Kurd_Sorani
4.70329672	Kurd_Feyli
5.06401027	Kurd_Kurmanji
5.60359706	Iranian_Central
6.00605528	Iranian_Zoroastrian
6.02771101	Iranian_Fars
6.41081118	Dersim
6.69715611	Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.98079508	Turkmen_Iraq
8.21207647	Azerbaijani_Iran
8.85070054	Iranian_Kerman
9.15569768	Azerbaijani_Republic
9.54900518	Iranian_Mazandaran
10.40417705	Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.76568159	Iranian_Khorasan
11.32393924	Iraqi_Baghdad
11.68689865	Turk_Southeast
12.16897284	Udi_Azerbaijan
12.40476118	Mandean
12.71515238	Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.64338668	Turk_East
14.01905846	Azeri_Jew
14.09405194	Arab_Iran
14.74017639	Assyrian_North
14.96227590	Assyrian_South
15.00846095	Turk_Central_East
15.23900259	Kurdish_Jew
15.51739024	Assyrian_West
15.72944373	Iraqi_Jew
15.85441894	Turk_South
16.71940788	Armenian_West
16.78132295	Armenian_East
16.88725555	Turk_Central_West
16.89948520	Turk_Central_Black_Sea
16.93981700	Iraqi_Arab
17.00484049	Parsi_India
17.71379688	Lebanese_Muslim
18.18761392	Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
18.26625030	Syrian_Muslim
18.93359976	Nusayri_Turkey
18.96731135	Turk_Ahiska
19.25315299	Turk_Southwest
19.27636636	Turk_West_BlackSea
19.36854150	Iranian_Bandari
19.94766402	Ingush
20.23802115	Lezgin
20.51056557	Kumyk
21.16724829	Lebanese_Christian
21.28134629	Adyghe
21.37431870	Turk_Northwest
21.65432520	Palestinian
21.66458631	Turk_East_Black_Sea
21.88887389	Tajik_Herat
21.90743025	Chechen
21.91979243	Greek_Cappadocia
22.02441827	Tabasaran
22.16051895	Kabardin
22.19199856	Abazin
22.23235930	Greek_Pontus
22.24435659	Jordanian_Muslim
22.33119791	Karachay
22.37639605	Hemshin
22.41023427	Turk_Cyprus
22.51251652	Ossetian
22.51986456	Circassian
22.63108040	Turkmen_Iran
23.14929589	Balkar
23.17218160	Laz
23.32590191	Ossetian_South
23.50581205	Palestinian_Christian
23.71398743	Syrian_SW_Christian
23.92173698	Lak
23.92574555	Greek_Cypriot
23.97587329	Abkhazian
24.45046216	Jordanian_Christian
24.71783769	Avar
25.08227860	Greek_Kos
25.11865044	Dargin_Kubachi
25.20625319	Greek_Rhodes
25.60519479	Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
25.85998840	Dargin_Kaitag
25.92681623	Greek_Crete
25.93456959	Georgian_West
26.39987689	Dargin
26.59107745	Balochi
26.63426740	Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
26.83906109	Tajik_Mountain
27.14093771	Greek_Fournoi
27.23151483	Tajik_Lowland
28.15705595	Greek_Izmir
28.61877006	Greek_Lemnos
28.74895998	Pashtun_Kandahar
28.84737770	Italian_Jews
28.94563352	Italian_Basilicata
28.94838337	Italian_Calabria
29.02741635	Sephardic_Jews
29.09067548	Greek_Icaria
29.36512557	Turkmen_Turkmenistan

 

[Kurdquistador]

Nice results. Did you simply copy and paste your gedmatch dodecad k12b results into vahaduo k12b updated version or did you modify the results? I am interested

you run dodecad k12b on gedmatch . then you do NOT click on oracle but look at the scores how they are listed (with the pie next to it) , and in that order how it is listed you post it into the "target" on vahaduo .

 

[Ben Dover]

you run dodecad k12b on gedmatch . then you do NOT click on oracle but look at the scores how they are listed (with the pie next to it) , and in that order how it is listed you post it into the "target" on vahaduo .

Yeah my question was if you need to convert old dodecad k12b results into new ones. I guess not.

 

[Kurdquistador]

My DISTANCE to the Assyrians. I am more shifted toward Iran and much closer to the othern Iranic groups

14.74017639	Assyrian_North
14.96227590	Assyrian_South

Your DISTANCE to the Assyrians. You are more shifted toward Anatolia and therefire CLOSER to the Semitic Assyrians.

11.19087128	Assyrian_North
11.37135436	Assyrian_South

yes because assyrians have more caucasus and more atlantic med than you . and i have those more than you too

while your southwest asian score and mine are the same mega failo . sorry dude

 

[Kurdquistador]

you and me have the same southwest asian score . i am closer to assyrians because i have more caucasus and more atlantic med . assyrians have more caucasus and more atlantic med

if i had more southwest asian than you then you would make sense . but what you are saying right now does NOT make sense

and assyrians were not the point to begin with . i said that my scores are closer to georgians than yours because i have more caucasus and more north european . georgians have enen more caucasus and score even more north european

i can show you much more georgian results if you want

and gedrosia is totally irrelevant here . especially since georgians score LESS gedrosia than both of us . but only a little less than me . so if anything then the gedrosia thing works AGAINST YOU in this matter since georgians have less of it

 

[Ben Dover]

I have seen it you are closer to the Georgians. I don't need more evidence. Like Georgians, you have more Caucaso-Anatolian ancestry than I do. Case solved.

But I don't care about Georgians mate. Like I want to be a Georgian or something, lol. I am an Ezdi Kurd and not a Georgian to begin with. I just want not to be associated with the Semites. To be honest I don't like Semites at all, that's all. Just like I don't like Turks. You were implying that I was closer to the Semites/Assyrians because you were closer to the Georgians. That didn't make any sense to me. How could I, as a 'pure' Kurd, would be closer to the Semites and Armenians than the 'Anatolian' Kurds? And your suggestions were wrong big time. I am not closer to the Semitic Assyrians and Armenians than you are. And I have absolutely nothing to do with the Semitic Druze. They are like ALIENS to me.

So, yeah, you are closer to Georgians and Armenians. But you are also closer to the Semitic people, like the Assyrians.
I am closer to other Iranic people who are part of the same Western Iranic population like me, my parents, my grandparents. I am a Kurd, a Guto-Median, and not a Georgian or an Armenian. My history is related to the ancient Kurds, Gutians/Medes and not to Armenians or Georgians.

my original Aryan/Guto-Median 'Gedrosia' ancestry is still very high in me. That's why it didn't make any sense to me when you were implying that I was closer to the ASSyrians than you are. You are by far closer to the Semitic Assyrians.

And no, the Western Iranic people (including the Ezdi Kurds, Gilakis etc.) have nothing to with the Semitic Assyrians. We belong to very different species. Semites are not one of us and never will be.

Western Iranic people are native Northern West Asians, Assyrians are not. Assyrians are Semitic people and therefore SOUTHERN West Asian people. Nevertheless they are still Western Asian though. And not African or something, lol.

Dude why do you hate assyrians and semitic speaking people in general? Why do you want to disassociate yourself from them as much as possible?

 

[Ben Dover]

I have 0 connection to the Semites. I have a very different ancestry from them. My DNA is mostly Irn_ChL + Trialeti. And both components have nothing to do with the Semites.

I am who I am and I would never want to be something else. Especially not Turkic or Semitic. My people lost too much blood to stay who they are, and we will fight for our unique identity as long as we do exist till the very end

I consider Semites as civilization destroyers, just like Turks. Just like Turks, Semites love destruction. Turks and Semites are all the same for me

I think in the private chat we both agreed on you having some levantine ancestry. Literally every kurd has some levantine in them at least in single digits and you are not an exception.

Semitic speaking people began the first civilizations. If it wasn't for them who knows where the humanity would stand nowadays...

 

[Ben Dover]

My Levantine ancestry is not from the Semites. My Levantine ancestry is mostly from the Irn_ChL people. So, it is from the Guto-Medes. When ancient Irn_ChL people picked up that ancestry the Semitic Assyrians and Arabs didn't exist at all.

Irn_ChL Ubaidians from Zagros were the mothers and fathers of all civilizations on this planet

This makes no sense. They would have picked it up from some kind of proto-semitic speaking population if not necessarily from modern day arabs or semitic speaking people

 

[Ben Dover]

Not from the Zagros but from south-central mesopotamia

 

[Kurdquistador]

I have seen it you are closer to the Georgians. I don't need more evidence. Like Georgians, you have more Caucaso-Anatolian ancestry than I do. Case solved.

But I don't care about Georgians mate. Like I want to be a Georgian or something, lol. I am an Ezdi Kurd and not a Georgian to begin with. I just want not to be associated with the Semites. To be honest I don't like Semites at all, that's all. Just like I don't like Turks. You were implying that I was closer to the Semites/Assyrians because you were closer to the Georgians. That didn't make any sense to me. How could I, as a 'pure' Kurd, would be closer to the Semites and Armenians than the 'Anatolian' Kurds? And your suggestions were wrong big time. I am not closer to the Semitic Assyrians and Armenians than you are. And I have absolutely nothing to do with the Semitic Druze. They are like ALIENS to me.

So, yeah, you are closer to Georgians and Armenians. But you are also closer to the Semitic people, like the Assyrians.
I am closer to other Iranic people who are part of the same Western Iranic population like me, my parents, my grandparents. I am a Kurd, a Guto-Median, and not a Georgian or an Armenian. My history is related to the ancient Kurds, Gutians/Medes and not to Armenians or Georgians.

my original Aryan/Guto-Median 'Gedrosia' ancestry is still very high in me. That's why it didn't make any sense to me when you were implying that I was closer to the ASSyrians than you are. You are by far closer to the Semitic Assyrians.

And no, the Western Iranic people (including the Ezdi Kurds, Gilakis etc.) have nothing to with the Semitic Assyrians. We belong to very different species. Semites are not one of us and never will be.

Western Iranic people are native Northern West Asians, Assyrians are not. Assyrians are Semitic people and therefore SOUTHERN West Asian people. Nevertheless they are still Western Asian though. And not African or something, lol.

i didnt make any claim about you and assyrians .

i said that we kurds are closER to assyrians and druze than to georgians and that is true

but i didnt say anything about you in particular being close to assyrians

you were just halucinating like often . are you schizophrenic ? serious question

Mesoman you tell me . wtf is wong with this guy . where the fuck did i say that he is close to assyrians

 

[Ben Dover]

i didnt make any claim about you and assyrians .

i said that we kurds are closER to assyrians and druze than to georgians and that is true

but i didnt say anything about you in particular being close to assyrians

you were just halucinating like often . are you schizophrenic ? serious question

Mesoman you tell me . wtf is wong with this guy . where the fuck did i say that he is close to assyrians

Honestly, I can't recall you saying that. I do remember that you generalized it about Kurds tho. I mean the fact that Kurds are closer to Assyrians than to Georgians.

 

[Kurdquistador]

yes i said that kurds are CLOSER to assyrians and druze than to georgians

i didnt say that guti is close to assyrians . or even that kurds are CLOSE to assyrians either

 

[Ben Dover]

Skidrow please check the conversations. I sent you a message there earlier.