Bulgarian - Kurdish - Punjabi Eurogenes K12b results compare

[Kurdquistador]

maybe intermediate i am not sure tbh

 

[Ben Dover]

maybe intermediate i am not sure tbh

Geographically they inhabit an intermediate zone between SW and Northern West Asia but genetically they are shifted more towards SW Asia than Northern West Asia. They are equidistant and slightly even closer to certain Saudis than to borderline Northern West Asians such as Georgian Jews. As a result, I think they are SW Asian but phenotypically they are closer to Northern West Asians and I guess that Samaritan guy about whom I made that passification thread proves it in a sense

 

[Kurdquistador]

Georgian Jews are not borderline . they are proper NWA

 

[Ben Dover]

Georgian Jews are not borderline . they are proper NWA

I beg to differ, however the fact that Samaritans are a bit closer to certain Saudis and Bedouins than to Georgian Jews doesn't help their case to be Northern West Asians. I don't consider them to be one of us

 

[ImHere]

my point is rather that the south asian component and the mediterranean component are the big game changers and the main reason why south asians are different from us northern west asians and europeans

and northern west asians and europeans are both caucasian race and have big overlap

To be fair, kurds do share more "recent" ancestry(at least more so compared to euros) with nw south asians like punjabis(central asian aryans, makes around 30-40% of ancestry in kurds and punjabis) than with euros. Your pre-islamic religions are closer to the other's too.

But im not arguing kurds resembling or clustering closer to punjabis than to euros though

 

[Kurdquistador]

To be fair, kurds do share more "recent" ancestry(at least more so compared to euros) with nw south asians like punjabis(central asian aryans, makes around 30-40% of ancestry in kurds and punjabis) than with euros. Your pre-islamic religions are closer to the other's too.

But im not arguing kurds resembling or clustering closer to punjabis than to euros though

what are you talking about

cant you just take it for as what it is instead of trying to shit on it . it almost seems as if you want us to be curry or some shit lel

and always trying to cockblock when it comes to similarity with balkans and south europe

 

[ImHere]

what are you talking about

cant you just take it for as what it is instead of trying to shit on it . it almost seems as if you want us to be curry or some shit lel

I think we already talked about this before?

Central asian aryan ancestry. I already mentioned that to you before.

A good portion of kurdish admix consists of these ancestors. You got around 25-35% of that, since you often get 15-20% steppe(but i cut it down the numbers, since i forgot you also got "steppe" like admix from non-central asian sources), similiar to punjabis. Why do you think kurds get the most "iran N" of people in both Iraq and Turkey? Why do you think you peoples are considered "aryans", and pre-islamic religions of iranics, like zoroastrianism, shares similiarities with indic religions?

The iran N question, its obvious: Significant amount of "BMAC" ancestry, which came with steppe.
Kurds do share some shared admix with south euros, less so with balkanians, but the amount you share isnt really compareable with punjabis if we go like 2000 years back.


Either way i didnt "shit" on what you said. I literally just said you werent racially closer to punjabis than to euros(and rather the opposite), just that you share more ancestry with them(same can be said aboust spanish, when compared to south americans and russians) than with euros

I didnt try to "currify" kurds either.
Its just you who thinks people do that, when they mention any connection between nw south asians and kurds, which exists. Sorry if you dont like it, but thats how it is.

 

[Kurdquistador]

i rather think you dont understand what i am saying

i wil explain tomorrow again 😍

 

[ImHere]

"and always trying to cockblock when it comes to similarity with balkans and south europe"

How is this cockblocking? I cant do for kurds shares steppe and BMAC ancestry with punjabis, while they share less ancestry with south euros, specially bulgarians within the last 2000 years. I didnt say kurds are now much more similiar to punjabis than to bulgarians?

 

[Kurdquistador]

we are nott punjab

 

[ImHere]

i rather think you dont understand what i am saying

i wil explain tomorrow again 😍

I understood what you said. All i just did was bring up the fact that kurds and punjabis share more ancestry with each other within 2000 years, compared to euros.


Same can sort of be said for spanish when it comes to south euros and russians, though rather within 1000 years. It doesnt mean they arent racially closer to russians than to example mexicans?

 

[Kurdquistador]

I understood what you said. All i just did was bring up the fact that kurds and punjabis share more ancestry with each other within 2000 years, compared to euros.


Same can sort of be said for spanish when it comes to south euros and russians, though rather within 1000 years. It doesnt mean they arent racially closer to russians than to example mexicans?

good example even if not perfect

an english person shares more ancestry with a half english half black person but he is very different from him racially and is dimensions more like an ukrainian than like the mulatto

 

[ImHere]

good example even if not perfect

an english person shares more ancestry with a half english half black person but he is very different from him racially and is dimensions more like an ukrainian than like the mulatto

Did i say otherwise?

We just said the same thing. For kurds and punjabis, they share central asian aryan ancestry, which is more admix than kurds shares with south euros(not sure about cypriots though?), but theyre racially closer to euros

 

[Kurdquistador]

but wait a minute

south euros have high barcin which we also have high , and they have high steppe and we have decent steppe .

 

[ImHere]

but wait a minute

south euros have high barcin which we also have high , and they have high steppe and we have decent steppe .

Here's the thing:

You both get your steppe and anatolian N from different sources. Specially the steppe.
Most of your steppe(80-90%?) came with central asian aryans. This is why youre "iranics" now.
The steppe you got is closer to the steppe ancestors of punjabis than to any of the euros.


Your barcin N is from different source to the ones of south euros too, as you can compare iran C with euros today. Your barcin N is also largely lower compared to south euros. Not exact the same.

If we were to compare kurds with assyrians and even afghans however, youre by far closer to assyrians ancestrially than to afghans, as most of your ancestry came from locals of west asia + little steppe too that probably was found in west asia already.

 

[Kurdquistador]

but it doesnt matter where it comes from . it is what it is tbh

 

[ImHere]

but it doesnt matter where it comes from . it is what it is tbh

You can say what it is, but it really doesnt change the fact that you share more ancestry with punjabis from the last 2000 years than with bulgarians(and most other south euros)?


But that fact also doesnt change that kurds do indeed resemble bulgarians way more than punjabis

 

[Kurdquistador]

we have less Barcin than south euros but not much less . levant N is more than half barcin itself

Target: Kurdish
Distance: 2.4430% / 0.02442987
32.4 Iran_N
22.2 Anatolia_N
19.0 Levant_N
14.0 Steppe
12.0 CHG
0.4 Mongoloid



with natufian instead of levant n

Target: Kurdish
Distance: 2.7758% / 0.02775776
33.6 Iran_N
33.4 Anatolia_N
12.4 Steppe
12.0 CHG
8.4 Natufians
0.2 Mongoloid





Target: Bulgarian
Distance: 3.1664% / 0.03166428
49.0 Anatolia_N
42.0 Steppe
5.0 WHG
3.2 Levant_N
0.6 AASI
0.2 Iran_N



Target: Punjabi_Jatt
Distance: 2.3650% / 0.02365048
37.0 Iran_N
30.6 Steppe
21.6 AASI
7.6 Anatolia_N
1.6 Mongoloid
1.6 WHG

 

[ImHere]

Well, apparently you do get 2/3 of the barcin N compared to bulgarians, and a better fit(like 0-1) might change the components 3-4%(which fits close to 3 can do), but i guess not much less.

Either way you got your anatolian N from different source when compared to south euros, though except cypriots perhaps.

 

[Kurdquistador]

Well, apparently you do get 2/3 of the barcin N compared to bulgarians, and a better fit(like 0-1) might change the components 3-4%(which fits close to 3 can do), but i guess not much less.

Either way you got your anatolian N from different source when compared to south euros, though except cypriots perhaps.

how so if it is barcin related wtf

it is the same when you go back far enough lol