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Are gypsitalians descended from Afro-Levantine and Jewish slaves ?

Turkic Warrior

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Like during the Roman Empire the romans imported millions and billions of Afro Levantine and Jewish slaves from the levant how much the Afro Levantine slaves and Jews had on gypsitalian genetics ? Discuss
 

Ponto

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A lot of those people were economic immigrants more than slaves. What use would Afro Levantines, and Jews be? Hewers of wood and drawers of water, the children of Ham, the Jews would be too busy arguing, ritually bathing, extracting denarii from the gullible and finding food to eat. Actually most of the economic immigrants were Greek speakers, people who were from Anatolia, and North African colonies, some from the Levant. They weren't exactly Jews or Black Africans or wholly Greek, they just spoke Greek.
Imperial Rome was a population sink, people went there to make money but they usually died without increasing the population, so more immigrants were needed, and they died, and more immigrants, a cycle of death. Rome wasn't a healthy place to live then, probably not today either, insulae regularly burned down, the cloaca dumped sewage into the Tiber, food had to be imported from Egypt.
Those populations from foreign lands didn't do much to increase the Roman and Italian population. Juvenal wrote that the Tiber was polluted by the Orestes, but he was a bigot. My view is that most of the non Italian population that went to Italy came from Anatolia and West Asia mostly during the late Bronze age into the Iron age, and they weren't Black Africans, Levantines or Jews. And what happened to the deported Muslims that were kept in a concentration camp in Lucera?
Look Italians are assholes, a bunch of cazzi and facce da culo, but it's their culture, not their genetics.
 

Turkic Warrior

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A lot of those people were economic immigrants more than slaves. What use would Afro Levantines, and Jews be? Hewers of wood and drawers of water, the children of Ham, the Jews would be too busy arguing, ritually bathing, extracting denarii from the gullible and finding food to eat. Actually most of the economic immigrants were Greek speakers, people who were from Anatolia, and North African colonies, some from the Levant. They weren't exactly Jews or Black Africans or wholly Greek, they just spoke Greek.
Imperial Rome was a population sink, people went there to make money but they usually died without increasing the population, so more immigrants were needed, and they died, and more immigrants, a cycle of death. Rome wasn't a healthy place to live then, probably not today either, insulae regularly burned down, the cloaca dumped sewage into the Tiber, food had to be imported from Egypt.
Those populations from foreign lands didn't do much to increase the Roman and Italian population. Juvenal wrote that the Tiber was polluted by the Orestes, but he was a bigot. My view is that most of the non Italian population that went to Italy came from Anatolia and West Asia mostly during the late Bronze age into the Iron age, and they weren't Black Africans, Levantines or Jews. And what happened to the deported Muslims that were kept in a concentration camp in Lucera?
Look Italians are assholes, a bunch of cazzi and facce da culo, but it's their culture, not their genetics.
Italians have affinity with Jews especially the southern ones so a lot of Jews immigrated to Italy especially to the south
 

Ben Dover

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Yes, Southern Italians have affinity with people of color. However, on the online forums, they are desperate to be included in the white people category.
 

Ponto

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European Jews are of Italian ancestry. It would be weird if they didn't have a high affinity to Southern Italians. Some Italians, north, center and south, might be desperate to be included in the Pasty category, but most just care about their stomachs, and their genitals. Anyway a wog is a wog. I don't agree with the immigration to the South, the South is economically dead, and has been for centuries. Economic immigrants go where they can make money.
 
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