ancient modelling from anthrogenica

[Ben Dover]

but EHG is WhG + ANE if i am not wrong

Saying that CHG has EHG shift already means that it has WHG shift to a degree but it seems that CHG has a direct influence from EHG and an indirect influence from WHG through EHG but EHG is more prominent nonetheless. Regardless, we are both right

 

[Kurdquistador]

Saying that CHG has EHG shift already means that it has WHG shift to a degree but it seems that CHG has a direct influence from EHG and an indirect influence from WHG through EHG but EHG is more prominent nonetheless. Regardless, we are both right

but CHG combined with EHG to form steppe so i dont understand how CHG is supposed to be influenced by EHG

i think it has actuall no effect from EHG nor ANF . neither does Iran N have AASi . and is not directly affected by Natufian

it is rather that they have some shifts towards a direction relative to each other

for example :


WHG -----------------------------------------------------------------CHG ------Iran N

 

[idklolimo]

but CHG combined with EHG to form steppe so i dont understand how CHG is supposed to be influenced by EHG

i think it has actuall no effect from EHG nor ANF . neither does Iran N have AASi . and is not directly affected by Natufian

it is rather that they have some shifts towards a direction relative to each other

for example :


WHG -----------------------------------------------------------------CHG ------Iran N

Iran Neolithic has onge %10.9

 

[Ben Dover]

but CHG combined with EHG to form steppe so i dont understand how CHG is supposed to be influenced by EHG

i think it has actuall no effect from EHG nor ANF . neither does Iran N have AASi . and is not directly affected by Natufian

it is rather that they have some shifts towards a direction relative to each other

for example :


WHG -----------------------------------------------------------------CHG ------Iran N

I'll model CHG later by using solely EHG and then it might become apparent in which direction CHG is shifted, because in this spreadsheet there is also WHG given but until I manually selected iran_N and WHG, CHG didn't get modled by WHG. It also may be that CHG and Iran_N aren't directly EHG/WHG and Natufian admixed but we'll see that later

 

[Kurdquistador]

Iran Neolithic has onge %10.9View attachment 5238

so be it . but how is that supposed to have happened . Iran N is west iran and AASI was far away and seemed untouched before contact with IraN N and Steppe peoples

 

[idklolimo]

so be it . but how is that supposed to have happened . Iran N is west iran and AASI was far away and seemed untouched before contact with IraN N and Steppe peoples

If the Iran neo afro balochis is very high, it is very likely that the Iranian neolithic homeland is balochistan. balochistan is not far from hindustan lol

 

[Kurdquistador]

If the Iran neo afro balochis is very high, it is very likely that the Iranian neolithic homeland is balochistan. balochistan is not far from hindustan lol

but it is not

Iran N is west Iran

 

[Kurdquistador]

by the way what i have always found odd is that Iran N on gedmatch scores very different from us Kurds etc. . it doesnt make sense that we have 34% or so Iran N if we go by gedmatch

 

[idklolimo]

Basal eurasian

 

[Ben Dover]

View attachment 5240
Basal eurasian

This reconstruction makes sense tbh

 

[Kurdquistador]

i dont think so lol

by the way i have (i guess simulated) basal eurasian coordinates

here :

Basal_Eurasian,0.075,0.375,-0.46085,-0.85,-0.205,-0.41,-0.11175,-0.1551,0.1948,-0.035,0.1534,-0.055,0.2264,0.0495,-0.1036,-0.08,-0.03945,0.0095,0,0.0185,-0.185,0.0495,0.1187,0.395,-0.0595

 

[Ben Dover]

i dont think so lol

by the way i have (i guess simulated) basal eurasian coordinates

here :

Basal_Eurasian,0.075,0.375,-0.46085,-0.85,-0.205,-0.41,-0.11175,-0.1551,0.1948,-0.035,0.1534,-0.055,0.2264,0.0495,-0.1036,-0.08,-0.03945,0.0095,0,0.0185,-0.185,0.0495,0.1187,0.395,-0.0595

Why do you not think so. Basal Eurasians basically directly descend from human migrants out of Africa.. also, none of the gene mutations were present in them for light features also because of the climate that basal eurasians endured

 

[Ben Dover]

how did you simulate basal eurasian coordinates

 

[Kurdquistador]

how did you simulate basal eurasian coordinates

i didnt do it . i have it from someone on AG

 

[Ben Dover]

model of natufian if you include your simulated basal eurasian coordinates. The fit is really good tho

Target: LevantineFarmer:Levant_Natufian_EpiP Distance: 1.7190% / 0.01719007
45.4	WestEuropeanHunterGatherer
24.4	Basal_Eurasian
12.0	Iberomaurusian
4.6	AnatolianFarmer
3.8	IranianFarmer
3.6	Sinic
1.8	Bantu
1.8	PygmaicForager
1.2	Nilotic
1.0	Austronesian
0.4	SouthEastAsianNeolithic

 

[Kurdquistador]

wtf

 

[Ben Dover]

we need 15-25K year old populations to model Neolithic populations but unfortunately we don't have any accessible on g25

 

[Kurdquistador]

we should read into qpAdm . it is the right tool anyway . but i am too lazy for that lol

 

[Ben Dover]

WTF?

Target: Basal_Eurasian Distance: 110.8454% / 1.10845364
100.0	LevantineFarmer

 

[Ben Dover]

we should read into qpAdm . it is the right tool anyway . but i am too lazy for that lol

Rather there should be someone here who already knows how to use qpAdm