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ancient modelling from anthrogenica

Ben Dover

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Target: MS
Distance: 2.3882% / 0.02388246
36.8AnatolianFarmer
29.4CaucasianHunterGatherer
18.4IranianFarmer
12.8LevantineFarmer
2.6IndoEuropeanSteppePastoralist
 

Ben Dover

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India
Are these people Pontic Greeks?
Target: Theodora_scaled
Distance: 3.1827% / 0.03182747
48.8AnatolianFarmer
29.6CaucasianHunterGatherer
13.8IranianFarmer
7.8LevantineFarmer


Target: Ioannis_scaled
Distance: 3.8767% / 0.03876708
45.2AnatolianFarmer
29.2CaucasianHunterGatherer
15.2IranianFarmer
10.4LevantineFarmer
 

idklolimo

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btw. when I take Natufian (LevantineFarmer) out I get this and the distance is still decent


Target: Alaska
Distance: 3.2382% / 0.03238170
42.4AnatolianFarmer
39.6IranianFarmer
14.2IndoEuropeanSteppePastoralist
1.4Sinic
1.0Amerindian
0.8CaucasianHunterGatherer
0.6NorthSiberian
Target: ROFLMAO_SCALED
Distance: 4.0928% / 0.04092809
41.4 AnatolianFarmer
39.2 IranianFarmer
14.0 IndoEuropeanSteppePastoralist
3.8 CaucasianHunterGatherer
1.2 Iberomaurusian
0.4 Amerindian
 

Ben Dover

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I have played with this particular modeling for the past couple of days and it usually gives decent fits for majority of the individuals I have ran through. I might post some people's results here, the ones that are more peculiar to me than the others.
 

idklolimo

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yes but that is one of the things making it interesting imo

i would like to see Georgian results
Target: Georgian_Ajar:AJAR1
Distance: 3.1657% / 0.03165713
50.6 CaucasianHunterGatherer
33.0 AnatolianFarmer
10.6 IranianFarmer
5.6 LevantineFarmer
0.2 IndoEuropeanSteppePastoralist
 

idklolimo

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Target: Georgian_Imer:GEO38_georgian_imer
Distance: 2.3490% / 0.02348962
51.8 CaucasianHunterGatherer
36.8 AnatolianFarmer
11.4 IranianFarmer
 

Ben Dover

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I would much rather post the results of the individuals than the academic samples since the latter aren't representative for individual people. It doesn't paint a clear picture.
 

Ben Dover

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just so that everyone has an idea of what some of the neolithic/pre-neolithic populations consisted of here are some models from the same spreadsheet. The fits are bad but it does give a glimpse into what the neolithic populations could have been.


Target: CaucasianHunterGatherer:GEO_CHG:KK1
Distance: 13.7762% / 0.13776214
58.0IranianFarmer
31.2IndoEuropeanSteppePastoralist
10.8AnatolianFarmer


Target: AnatolianFarmer
Distance: 18.2149% / 0.18214878
62.6LevantineFarmer
22.6CaucasianHunterGatherer
11.4WestEuropeanHunterGatherer
3.4IndoEuropeanSteppePastoralist


Target: IranianFarmer
Distance: 13.9708% / 0.13970846
57.6CaucasianHunterGatherer
30.6Harappan
9.4LevantineFarmer
2.4Bantu


Target: LevantineFarmer
Distance: 13.5901% / 0.13590109
57.0AnatolianFarmer
35.2Iberomaurusian
7.8IranianFarmer


Target: IndoEuropeanSteppePastoralist
Distance: 5.7397% / 0.05739685
57.4EastEuropeanHunterGatherer
33.8CaucasianHunterGatherer
7.0AnatolianFarmer
1.8IranianFarmer


Target: Harappan:IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728
Distance: 13.6905% / 0.13690485
51.6Hoabinhian
45.0IranianFarmer
3.4WestSiberianHunterGatherer


Target: Iberomaurusian
Distance: 25.5447% / 0.25544696
68.0LevantineFarmer
24.8Bantu
5.0Nilotic
2.2Jomon
 

Ben Dover

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I suggest not to use Levant Neolithic in Neolithic modeling and instead use natufian because Levant neolithic itself is 1/2 natufian 1/2 neolithic anatolian like. Here are some Pre=Pottery Neolithic levant sample models.


Target: Levant_PPNC
Distance: 3.3819% / 0.03381877
55.0LevantineFarmer
45.0AnatolianFarmer


Target: Levant_PPNB_contam
Distance: 3.2310% / 0.03230964
54.0LevantineFarmer
44.8AnatolianFarmer
0.8IranianFarmer
0.4Melanesian


Target: Levant_PPNB
Distance: 2.8955% / 0.02895457
54.8LevantineFarmer
44.8AnatolianFarmer
0.4IranianFarmer
 

Ben Dover

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Target: ROFLMAO_SCALED
Distance: 3.2373% / 0.03237291
36.8 IranianFarmer
30.8 AnatolianFarmer
14.0 LevantineFarmer
10.6 IndoEuropeanSteppePastoralist
7.4 CaucasianHunterGatherer
0.4 Amerindian
Your result does look like that of other Kurds but your natufian seems to be above average. Although, i would assume that there can be a few yazidis or sorani kurds who might score up to 14% natufian so it's nothing crazy out of the oridnary.
 

idklolimo

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Your result does look like that of other Kurds but your natufian seems to be above average. Although, i would assume that there can be a few yazidis or sorani kurds who might score up to 14% natufian so it's nothing crazy out of the oridnary.
true...people like Guti can be very natufian
 

Kurdquistador

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I suggest not to use Levant Neolithic in Neolithic modeling and instead use natufian because Levant neolithic itself is 1/2 natufian 1/2 neolithic anatolian like. Here are some Pre=Pottery Neolithic levant sample models.

exactly . thats what i always say too .

many people use pops that eat up each other and think they know shit and try to make a point

on TA a croatian woman says that Kurds have zero Barcin N . can you believe it ? reality is that we are 35% barcin . me personally i have 40
 
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