were the proto turks mongoloid or caucasian ?

[Kurdquistador]

i am not anti turkish and as i said before my sister is married to a turk and i love him and i also see turks as my compatriots

BUT turks often talk bullshit online . but regardless of that i am interested to know if proto turks were mongoloid or caucasian because many anatolian turks seem delusional to me thinking they are strongly turkic and many of them even think they are more similar to people like yakuts than they are to kurds LOL xD

Anatolian turks are around 10-11% mongoloid on average . they are a mix of native anatolian + oghuz invaders but those oghuz were already at least half caucasian . but if the proto turks were predominantly mongoloid then this means the turkicness of people like anatolian turks , azerbaijanis etc is heavily diluted due to the turks mixing with caucasoid peoples on their way to the west

 

[idklolimo]

Their origin Mongoloid race

 

[Kurdquistador]

Their origin Mongoloid race

are you sure ?

what is your source ?

 

[Kurdquistador]

my guess was that the proto turks were almost half half . half mongoloid half caucasian . maybe even 60-65% caucasian

if they were actually predominantly mongoloid then anatloian turks and azerbaijanis etc. dont have a lot of proto turkic ancestry actually . i mean they do have some and it is an important difference to their neighbor ethnicities . but it is way too diluted to justify the idiotic stuff turks say online acting like they are turkic AS FUCK and that the ones thinking they are closer to mongolians than to kurds ....wtf ? fucking idiotic

 

[Turkic Warrior]

i am not anti turkish and as i said before my sister is married to a turk and i love him and i also see turks as my compatriots

BUT turks often talk bullshit online . but regardless of that i am interested to know if proto turks were mongoloid or caucasian because many anatolian turks seem delusional to me thinking they are strongly turkic and many of them even think they are more similar to people like yakuts than they are to kurds LOL xD

Anatolian turks are around 10-11% mongoloid on average . they are a mix of native anatolian + oghuz invaders but those oghuz were already at least half caucasian . but if the proto turks were predominantly mongoloid then this means the turkicness of people like anatolian turks , azerbaijanis etc is heavily diluted due to the turks mixing with caucasoid peoples on their way to the west

Well early and medieval Turkic peoples were a mix of peoples and had both west and east eurasian dna azerbaijanis have around 12% mongoloid admixture and mongoloid in anatolian turks can reach as far as 20% in some regions of Turkey and yeah lol some Turkish people on the internet are insane and talk a lot of deluded shit LOL

 

[Kurdquistador]

Well early and medieval Turkic peoples were a mix of peoples and had both west and east eurasian dna azerbaijanis have around 12% mongoloid admixture and mongoloid in anatolian turks can reach as far as 20% in some regions of Turkey and yeah lol some Turkish people on the internet are insane and talk a lot of deluded shit LOL

azerbaijanis are more like 6% or so east eurasian if i am not wrong . some can be higher but where do you have it from that 12% is average

20% in türkiye is not typical though . only some regions can have indidivuals that high like bolu , giresun and some others . and yörüks . average seems more 10 - 11% or so

yes medieval turkics were a mix of west and east eurasian but i mean the proto turks how much did they have . isnt the birthplace of turks somewhere in the altai region ? it seems proto turkics were mostly mongoloid but i am not sure .

turkicness in the anatolian turk and azerbaijani case is basically a journey from altai area to anatolia getting diluted more and more until not a lot of the proto turkic remains

i also wonder about people like the gagauz . are they just turkified balkan people or something ?

i just ran them on G25 and they score no east eurasian at all

Target: Gagauz_(n=9)
Distance: 3.6878% / 0.03687847
54.6 Northwest_Anatolia_Neolithic_Ilipinar_Bursa
25.2 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer
14.2 CHG_Kotias_Georgia
3.6 Zagros_Neolithic
2.4 WHG

 

[Turkic Warrior]

azerbaijanis are more like 6% or so east eurasian if i am not wrong . some can be higher but where do you have it from that 12% is average

20% in türkiye is not typical though . only some regions can have indidivuals that high like bolu , giresun and some others . and yörüks . average seems more 10 - 11% or so

yes medieval turkics were a mix of west and east eurasian but i mean the proto turks how much did they have . isnt the birthplace of turks somewhere in the altai region ? it seems proto turkics were mostly mongoloid but i am not sure .

turkicness in the anatolian turk and azerbaijani case is basically a journey from altai area to anatolia getting diluted more and more until not a lot of the proto turkic remains

i also wonder about people like the gagauz . are they just turkified balkan people or something ?

i just ran them on G25 and they score no east eurasian at all

Target: Gagauz_(n=9)
Distance: 3.6878% / 0.03687847
54.6 Northwest_Anatolia_Neolithic_Ilipinar_Bursa
25.2 East_European_Hunter_Gatherer
14.2 CHG_Kotias_Georgia
3.6 Zagros_Neolithic
2.4 WHG

I dont like this notion that just because they have almost 0 Turkic East Asian DNA they are not real Turkic or just Turkified balkan,armenian,greek,iranian,dinosaur please dont repeat what anti-turkic trolls and propagandists say and yes the proto turks were mongoloids but they fucked a lot of their neighbors already who were iranic,mongolic,yenisseian,uralic and sino tibetan and tocharian and indo aryan back than lol

 

[Kurdquistador]

I dont like this notion that just because they have almost 0 Turkic East Asian DNA they are not real Turkic or just Turkified balkan,armenian,greek,iranian,dinosaur please dont repeat what anti-turkic trolls and propagandists say and yes the proto turks were mongoloids but they fucked a lot of their neighbors already who were iranic,mongolic,yenisseian,uralic and sino tibetan and tocharian and indo aryan back than lol

but i am only saying the truth here . think about it . if proto turks were predominantly mongoloid then many of nowdays turkics in the western part of the turkic world have only little proto turkic ancestry and some even have none at all

 

[Turkic Warrior]

but i am only saying the truth here . think about it . if proto turks were predominantly mongoloid then many of nowdays turkics in the western part of the turkic world have only little proto turkic ancestry and some even have none at all

right yes althought Turkic is more about culture and language and identity today

 

[Kurdquistador]

right yes althought Turkic is more about culture and language and identity today

some Kurds have a little Turkish admix i think especially Alevi Kurds . but still predominantly Kurdish of course .

and anatolian turks are turkish of course . even if they have not that much proto turkic ancestry . they still have enough to be that identity

 

[Turkic Warrior]

some Kurds have a little Turkish admix i think especially Alevi Kurds . but still predominantly Kurdish of course .

and anatolian turks are turkish of course . even if they have not that much proto turkic ancestry . they still have enough to be that identity

yes exactly there is a lot of Turkophobia on the internet its disgustng people see azerbaijanis and turks as subhumans the most vile of the things alive in this planet on the shithole of the internet

 

[idklolimo]

my guess was that the proto turks were almost half half . half mongoloid half caucasian . maybe even 60-65% caucasian

The important thing here is the language. The language seems to be mostly of East Asian origin.