by the way i have nothing against Turks who dont have anything against Kurds
my sister is married to a Turkish guy and i love them and most of his family
my sister is married to a Turkish guy and i love them and most of his family
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I don't care much about euros and their distances to each other but those distances are there as an illustration to how different people and ethnicities are to each other based on their meso-neo genetic profiles. The distances are the manifestations of those subtle or not so subtle auDNA differences etc
If you dont give a shit about distances then what makes you conclude that east georgians and Kurds are fairly similar to each other. The similarity or polarity of em both would be shown by the distances which in turn represent the differences observed in the HG/Farmer results for both
but G25 exeggerates differences . for example take CHG and Iran N . you and me and many other NWA our Iran N is mostly like Iran LN which is a lot more similar to CHG than what G25 shows . Georgians are far from most populations due to G25 exeggerating the difference of CHG and Iran N
the analogy with Latvians and Irish is pretty good trust me . they are at a distance of 10.3 to each other which is ridiculous . i have to admit on gedmatch it is not much better in their case but it is better in our case with Kurds vs east Geos for example especially in Eurogenes K13 for example (but also other calcs)
i think this raises a good question for us because we should maybe determine calcs which do not overestimate differences between ethnicities . that would be fun to find out
the distance between Kurdish average in the spreadsheet and east Georgians is around 8-9 on Eurogenes K13 . which is not close however in the list Kurdish is in the top 5 even top 3 fits often
let us find out which calculators are good for distances and dont exeggerate differences
let us find out which calculators are good for distances and dont exeggerate differences
today i have seen a person like so often use Kurdish very wrong and pass as girl as Kurdish even though she doesnt pass
he said this :
" Are you Moroccan, Kurdish, Afghan, or Pakistani? I think you could pass in any of those countries."
lol wtf . first of all Kurds dont look like Afghans (in general i mean) and especially not like Pakistanis and moroccans . but additional to that this girl doesnt look Kurdish at all
now i wondered how would this person place me ? an actual Kurdish guy . a typical Kurdish guy
this is how he placed me :
why do people think of Kurds so wrongly ? why do they imagine Kurds as something that we are not ? well i actually know why but at this point it is becoming really comical . like damn i know many people are not familiar with us but come on . we are from northern west asia how the fuck do people even imagine us to look like a gypsy or punjabi - iraqi arab mix with some armenian influence . thats genuienly how people imagine Kurds no joke
they place non passing people as Kurdish then place actual Kurds as Balkan and Turkish etc.
hilarious
he said this :
" Are you Moroccan, Kurdish, Afghan, or Pakistani? I think you could pass in any of those countries."
lol wtf . first of all Kurds dont look like Afghans (in general i mean) and especially not like Pakistanis and moroccans . but additional to that this girl doesnt look Kurdish at all
now i wondered how would this person place me ? an actual Kurdish guy . a typical Kurdish guy
this is how he placed me :
why do people think of Kurds so wrongly ? why do they imagine Kurds as something that we are not ? well i actually know why but at this point it is becoming really comical . like damn i know many people are not familiar with us but come on . we are from northern west asia how the fuck do people even imagine us to look like a gypsy or punjabi - iraqi arab mix with some armenian influence . thats genuienly how people imagine Kurds no joke
they place non passing people as Kurdish then place actual Kurds as Balkan and Turkish etc.
hilarious
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@Corduene would he pass as kurdish and as northern west asian in general
Anatolian Neolithic Farmer
44.4%
Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer
26.2%
Zagros Neolithic Farmer
9.0%
Natufian Hunter-Gatherer
9.0%
European Hunter-Gatherer
6.0%
Yellow River Neolithic Farmer
2.4%
Baikal Hunter-Gatherer
2.2%
Amur River Hunter-Gatherer
0.8%
Anatolian Neolithic Farmer
44.4%
Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer
26.2%
Zagros Neolithic Farmer
9.0%
Natufian Hunter-Gatherer
9.0%
European Hunter-Gatherer
6.0%
Yellow River Neolithic Farmer
2.4%
Baikal Hunter-Gatherer
2.2%
Amur River Hunter-Gatherer
0.8%
yes imo
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thought he was a turkey arab before i saw his modeling. knowing what an average kurd and turk looks like doesn't he look a bit woggy to pass well among these ethnicities. at least i think that he is a bit woggy..
well there is some notth african vibe about him
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do you have a theory as to why some people who are genetically normal northern west asian sometimes exhibit maghrebi vibes phenotypically?
no idea
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@Corduene someone's reply from reddit in defence of iron age/bronze age models on g25 while criticizing neo-meso models. what are your thoughts etc
"It sucks ass if it’s not used correctly yeah. You have to be careful choosing the sources and few ones as well. Otherwise you end up with a mess and different models that give good fits. It can actually be the most accurate in iron age. In neolithic, it’s just not made to catch the drift properly, hence not to be trusted that much, at least for many pops, depending on region and country. It will of course seem more consistent in the neolithic than in bronze age but that’s only because the neolithic sources are all distant to each other according to it. G25 shows 0% Steppe for many west asian pops that otherwise are shown to have some minor but significant amount on qpAdm."
"It sucks ass if it’s not used correctly yeah. You have to be careful choosing the sources and few ones as well. Otherwise you end up with a mess and different models that give good fits. It can actually be the most accurate in iron age. In neolithic, it’s just not made to catch the drift properly, hence not to be trusted that much, at least for many pops, depending on region and country. It will of course seem more consistent in the neolithic than in bronze age but that’s only because the neolithic sources are all distant to each other according to it. G25 shows 0% Steppe for many west asian pops that otherwise are shown to have some minor but significant amount on qpAdm."
nonsense . that the neolithic mesolithic pops are distant to each other is EXACTLY one of the main reasons why it is better than bronze age , iron age
these idiots dont even realize that the bronze age pops are descended from neolithic / mesolithic people so actual heritage you want to see will be in packages and will not be visible . all you get is a "muh good fitz of 1.9 n shiet" which doesnt say anything
according to that Georgians (lets take them since the example is good) are mostly maykop and thats it . fuck CHG fuck EEF right ? becauze bronze ages sayings they maykop with 1.7 fits n shiet
man i hate people so much