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i just made a G25 model based on this qpAdm model

Kurdquistador

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based on this qpAdm model : http://up.picr.de/45195993fi.jpg?rand=1676467377



but i have used Satsurblia CHG instead of Kotias . because Satsurblia is older . and there are barely any models with satsu . when you use satsurblia it also eats less WHG and Iran N it seems compared to Kotias


the distances wont be that good but thats normal because these populations are so ancient and because i used populations that dont eat each other up and make an overfit . many people make shit models where components eat up each other etc. and of course the fit will be "better" that way . and then they think their model is good . lol


coordinates :

Anatolian_Hunter_Gatherer:TUR_Pinarbasi_HG,0.114961,0.167562,0.03017,-0.08075,0.072629,-0.039881,-0.00047,0.000231,0.046836,0.083282,0.004222,0.007793,-0.02215,-0.011836,-0.041123,-0.003845,0.043027,0.00114,0.008799,-0.004252,-0.011729,0.006801,-0.006286,-0.010122,-0.007784
Iran_N:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
Satsurblia_CHG:Satsurblia_scaled,0.092197,0.101553,-0.093526,-0.000969,-0.092633,0.020917,0.030786,-0.001615,-0.139281,-0.085833,-0.002923,0.024278,-0.058424,0.009634,0.036373,-0.022938,0.044591,-0.008488,-0.027025,0.042896,0.04517,-0.009521,0.001849,-0.030245,-0.002515
WHG:Rochedane,0.118376,0.111708,0.178001,0.184111,0.150182,0.044623,0.010575,0.034383,0.090809,0.028064,-0.014615,-0.016186,0.013974,-0.002752,0.058767,0.069344,0.002738,0.014189,-0.015335,0.054151,0.101446,0.013231,-0.050778,-0.178579,0.019519
WHG:BEL_Loschbour:I0001,0.133173,0.106631,0.2 0176,0.192186,0.164338,0.055778,0.00611,0.036922,0 .096535,0.02278,-0.020786,-0.016186,0.024975,-0.007432,0.065824,0.063643,0.008084,0.006714,-0.013324,0.065281,0.120038,0.019166,-0.059405,-0.175687,0.022992
WHG:ITA_Villabruna:Villabruna,0.121791,0.1147 55,0.18592,0.184111,0.156337,0.060798,0.020211,0.0 35998,0.092445,0.018041,-0.016239,-0.016186,0.016947,-0.010046,0.054017,0.067356,0.000782,0.005448,-0.008422,0.053526,0.100073,0.010758,-0.048313,-0.163517,0.01928
WHG:Wales_Meso,0.1160995,0.1157705,0.187806,0.195416,0.1629535,0.0642845,0.0243235,0.030691,0.0915245,0.010023,-0.020055,-0.0059945,0.0049805,-0.0015825,0.061617,0.0646375,-0.001043,0.010135,-0.0043995,0.0596535,0.1056885,0.0183625,-0.047327,-0.175386,0.017783
WHG:England_Mesolithic,0.126344,0.110693,0.202891,0.197031,0.157876,0.055778,0.010575,0.03346,0.086514,0.016583,-0.017863,-0.01139,0.014866,-0.001651,0.061481,0.065499,0.002477,0.009882,-0.005531,0.06353,0.116295,0.019661,-0.055954,-0.179664,0.019399
WHG:ITA_Grotta_Continenza_Meso,0.1225497,0.1120467,0.2008793,0.2048907,0.1728527,0.0618207,0.0160593,0.0412293,0.108602,0.0271533,-0.0193243,-0.0143373,0.0162043,-0.0086703,0.0708007,0.069035,0.0002173,0.0120353,-0.0099303,0.0637807,0.118,0.0113347,-0.0608843,-0.1971763,0.021994
East_Eurasian:Oroqen,0.030732,-0.4370163,0.070899,-0.0414517,-0.04647,-0.0360697,0.0191143,0.0235373,0.007363,0.0142147,-0.0271187,-0.002148,-0.0017343,0.0002297,-0.0081887,-0.0124637,-0.0052153,0.005743,0.0106427,0.0093793,0.0111887,-0.014055,-0.0052997,0.0014057,0.0055483
East_Eurasian:Nivkh,0.0282028,-0.4409653,0.0715274,-0.0367143,-0.0564892,-0.0370303,0.0024806,0.0055381,0.0104534,0.0185678,-0.0328746,-8.32e-05,0.0010901,0.0016209,-0.0144769,-0.0086624,0.0020428,0.0107827,0.0244553,0.0153407,0.019549,-0.04604,-0.0183092,0.0089034,-0.0151814
Natufian:Levant_Natufian,0.01935,0.135065,-0.039221,-0.135984,0.026774,-0.076137,-0.019036,-0.024691,0.100626,-0.008018,0.02858,-0.019633,0.067343,0.001651,0.022801,0.02612,-0.0103,0.006714,-0.018101,0.041395,-0.004118,-0.003215,-0.014297,-0.011206,0.011975
South_Eurasian:AASI:S_AASI_Sim Av,-0.007017607,-0.247268894,-0.229976338,0.16563825,-0.035368871,0.064331863,-0.015188881,0.027727614,0.147380455,0.101064071,-0.004664075,-0.004333522,0.003228897,0.026031903,-0.047720864,-0.045200255,0.010093749,0.000906224,0.000245098,0.039040136,0.009429353,0.024010206,-0.003068505,0.015983546,-0.010868946
South_Eurasian: Papuan,-0.0459844,-0.2410866,-0.2637584,0.3092414,0.2069308,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.0070152,-0.041273,-0.0119546,-0.018902,0.000869,0.0013974,-0.00311,0.0001628,-0.0003186,-0.0021906,-0.0018498,-0.001081,-0.0015256,0.0023458,0.0018052,0.0012324,0.0018314,0.0016048
South_Eurasian:Australian,-0.0421145,-0.235095,-0.213639,0.234499,0.1384875,-0.3402465,-0.0031725,0.0074995,-0.0082835,0.00082,-0.006171,0.001199,0.0008175,-0.002684,-0.0035285,-0.000133,0.0100395,0.002027,-0.0023885,0.0060655,0.003556,-0.000371,-0.0033895,0.0012655,-0.0045505
South_Eurasian:Koinanbe,-0.043253,-0.243727,-0.261345,0.308466,0.21204,-0.508975,0.00094,0.004615,-0.041314,-0.014943,-0.019811,0.000749,0.000595,-0.000688,-0.000407,-0.000796,-0.006519,-0.003674,-0.000126,0.002751,0.001872,0.001484,0.004437,-0.000964,0.00012
South_Eurasian:Kosipe,-0.043253,-0.242712,-0.255688,0.297807,0.205885,-0.491405,0.002585,0.004846,-0.03845,-0.012392,-0.01429,0.002997,0.00223,-0.005505,-0.00095,0.00305,-0.002868,0.001647,0.001131,-0.002501,0.002745,0.001237,0.001725,-0.004579,0.00491
East_European_HG:RUS_Samara_HG,0.119514,0.048745,0.113513,0.206398,-0.008001,0.054384,-0.013161,-0.023537,-0.01309,-0.090936,0.01429,-0.018883,0.026164,-0.03647,0.020629,0.012994,-0.005867,-0.000507,-0.00729,0.009004,-0.011854,0.025102,0.009737,-0.02651,-0.009101
Taforalt:TAF010,-0.193499,0.083273,-0.03017,-0.088502,0.034776,-0.055499,-0.076378,0.019384,0.163619,0.008565,0.02111,-0.030573,0.07879,-0.046104,0.077496,-0.046141,-0.00665,-0.069805,-0.144176,0.036518,-0.042924,-0.129217,0.07629,-0.015303,0.018322
Sub_Saharan_African: Dinka,-0.577083,0.0507765,-0.0003773,-0.0075098,-0.0053855,-0.0016735,-0.0176848,0.0204222,0.081145,-0.0969495,-0.02107,0.022742,-0.0383172,-0.0011698,0.0101452,-0.021347,0.0186125,-0.0094382,0.0241968,-0.0241678,0.002402,0.003308,0.001479,0.0009038,0.0096995
Sub_Saharan_African:Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0.0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561,0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Sub_Saharan_African:Kongo,-0.628304,0.064994,0.020365,0.017442,-0.000615,0.016176,-0.016451,0.020076,-0.033746,0.020228,0.008607,-0.003147,-0.001933,0.001514,-0.006786,0.00769,-0.009648,0.00114,0.001257,0.003502,-0.002496,-0.000989,0.001109,-0.001084,-0.006826
 
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Kurdquistador

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post your results . this is my result :

45195994yo.jpg



 

Ben Dover

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One correction: kotias is older than satsurblia. Satsurblia is more mesolithic in time and kotias is eneolithic
 

Ben Dover

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No, one specimen from kotias was 13900 years old and one from satsurblia was around 9000 years old. I am pretty sure about that
 

Kurdquistador

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No, one specimen from kotias was 13900 years old and one from satsurblia was around 9000 years old. I am pretty sure about that

but look above what i just posted . it says satsurblia is older . i think you are confusing them for each other
 

Ben Dover

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This calc underestimates ehg/whg but overestimates natufian but it also makes sense because anatolia_n has a little natufian shift and whg shift compared to pinarbarsi
 

Ben Dover

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but look above what i just posted . it says satsurblia is older . i think you are confusing them for each other
I am not. But those are other specimens that were found in those two caves but the earliest chg specimen was found in kotias klde i am sure about that
 

Kurdquistador

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I am not. But those are other specimens that were found in those two caves but the earliest chg specimen was found in kotias klde i am sure about that

the Kotias from G25 is 7700 or so iirc

but either way . let us use satsu for this calc . it is cool
 

Kurdquistador

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This calc underestimates ehg/whg but overestimates natufian but it also makes sense because anatolia_n has a little natufian shift and whg shift compared to pinarbarsi

Anatolian Hunter Gaterer has a decent chunk of WHG already thats why
 

Beowulf

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Target: Ivan
Distance: 5.1566% / 0.05156643
61.6 Anatolian_Hunter_Gatherer
20.8 East_European_HG
6.6 Satsurblia_CHG
5.0 WHG
4.4 Iran_N
1.6 Taforalt
 
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