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- Thread starter Beowulf
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Catalhoyuk has no WHG whatsoever unlike EHG which is 1/2 WHG like.
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if i am not wrong this catalhöyük reference does . the catalhöyük i proviced in my model was an individual . this one is the merged average catal
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Then it would make sense to use that individual based catalhoyuk reference rather than this one.
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Projection.
yes . because that individual that i proviced is as "med only" as you can get lol . it doesnt have excess WHG or natufian or CHG etc. . it gets modelled as half sardinian half samaritan at a fit of 9 or so
but it has a little Iran N and nilo saharan
Beowulf
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yes the west asian cluster is close to the european one but still is separated to Europe
dont listen to gypsoarab . he is a troll
and like i said . these "clusters" are wide and not all europeans will cluster close together . a portuguese is not closer to a russian than a bulgarian is to an armenian . if you dont believe me try it and run distances
and like i said . these "clusters" are wide and not all europeans will cluster close together . a portuguese is not closer to a russian than a bulgarian is to an armenian . if you dont believe me try it and run distances
by the way i get a decent fit when i model myself with you ivorix + seh gabi LN
my distance to you is 15.5 and to Iran LN 16.2 . but when i model myself with both the fit dramatically improves to 5.37
Target: fuckeeeeer_scaled
Distance: 5.3749% / 0.05374938
50.6 ivorix
47.2 IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN
2.2 East_Eurasian
Distance to: fuckeeeeer_scaled
0.15508268 ivorix
0.16263624 IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN
my distance to you is 15.5 and to Iran LN 16.2 . but when i model myself with both the fit dramatically improves to 5.37
Target: fuckeeeeer_scaled
Distance: 5.3749% / 0.05374938
50.6 ivorix
47.2 IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN
2.2 East_Eurasian
Distance to: fuckeeeeer_scaled
0.15508268 ivorix
0.16263624 IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN
no . what you are saying is wrong
the funny thing is also that you are INSTANTLY wrong in this thread since OP and me we talked about our overlapping components / results . lol
oh ...by the way ....something struck my mind while reading this article about the Ganj Dareh N woman :
www.nature.com
@Mesoman
bro it can not be possible that Iran N is CHG with some natufian and AASI admix . because CHG is older than Iran N and went through a population bottleneck
while natufian admix might be possible AASI seems not possible because for Iran N to have AASI it would mean that Iran N travelled to India and back to pick it up . OR Iran N mixed a little with some people in Iran who brought AASI with them . which doesnt seem likely either
now you might say that Iran N just had a little AASI and some Natufian in it already from before . but how can CHG not have it then ? CHG is older than Iran N . it doesnt make sense
it seems rather like i said . that Iran N has RELATIVE TO CHG when you take CHG as a base Iran N has a little SHIFT towards natufian and AASI . just like how a swiss German will have some shift towards saudis compared to a Norwegian even though the swiss German has no Arabian ancestry / admix
Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 3.4993% / 0.03499321
87.2 Norwegian
12.8 Saudi
Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 4.9034% / 0.04903444 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Norwegian
of course i might be wrong though
The genetics of an early Neolithic pastoralist from the Zagros, Iran - Scientific Reports
The agricultural transition profoundly changed human societies. We sequenced and analysed the first genome (1.39x) of an early Neolithic woman from Ganj Dareh, in the Zagros Mountains of Iran, a site with early evidence for an economy based on goat herding, ca. 10,000 BP. We show that Western...
www.nature.com
@Mesoman
bro it can not be possible that Iran N is CHG with some natufian and AASI admix . because CHG is older than Iran N and went through a population bottleneck
while natufian admix might be possible AASI seems not possible because for Iran N to have AASI it would mean that Iran N travelled to India and back to pick it up . OR Iran N mixed a little with some people in Iran who brought AASI with them . which doesnt seem likely either
now you might say that Iran N just had a little AASI and some Natufian in it already from before . but how can CHG not have it then ? CHG is older than Iran N . it doesnt make sense
it seems rather like i said . that Iran N has RELATIVE TO CHG when you take CHG as a base Iran N has a little SHIFT towards natufian and AASI . just like how a swiss German will have some shift towards saudis compared to a Norwegian even though the swiss German has no Arabian ancestry / admix
Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 3.4993% / 0.03499321
87.2 Norwegian
12.8 Saudi
Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 4.9034% / 0.04903444 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Norwegian
of course i might be wrong though
Beowulf
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Can u modelate me with that? I can't right now because im in phone and not in PCoh ...by the way ....something struck my mind while reading this article about the Ganj Dareh N woman :
The genetics of an early Neolithic pastoralist from the Zagros, Iran - Scientific Reports
The agricultural transition profoundly changed human societies. We sequenced and analysed the first genome (1.39x) of an early Neolithic woman from Ganj Dareh, in the Zagros Mountains of Iran, a site with early evidence for an economy based on goat herding, ca. 10,000 BP. We show that Western...
@Mesoman
bro it can not be possible that Iran N is CHG with some natufian and AASI admix . because CHG is older than Iran N and went through a population bottleneck
while natufian admix might be possible AASI seems not possible because for Iran N to have AASI it would mean that Iran N travelled to India and back to pick it up . OR Iran N mixed a little with some people in Iran who brought AASI with them . which doesnt seem likely either
now you might say that Iran N just had a little AASI and some Natufian in it already from before . but how can CHG not have it then ? CHG is older than Iran N . it doesnt make sense
it seems rather like i said . that Iran N has RELATIVE TO CHG when you take CHG as a base Iran N has a little SHIFT towards natufian and AASI . just like how a swiss German will have some shift towards saudis compared to a Norwegian even though the swiss German has no Arabian ancestry / admix
Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 3.4993% / 0.03499321
87.2 Norwegian
12.8 Saudi
Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 4.9034% / 0.04903444 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Norwegian
of course i might be wrong though
huh ? with what. lol
Luso
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| Target: Luso_scaled Distance: 3.3505% / 0.03350487 | |
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| 47.4 | TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic |
| 34.8 | Corded_Ware |
| 12.2 | ITA_Villabruna(WHG) |
| 5.6 | MAR_Taforalt |
| Target: Luso_dad_scaled Distance: 3.4814% / 0.03481375 | |
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| 47.0 | TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic |
| 35.4 | Corded_Ware |
| 12.6 | ITA_Villabruna(WHG) |
| 5.0 | MAR_Taforalt |
| Target: Luso_mom_scaled Distance: 3.0479% / 0.03047924 | |
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| 46.6 | TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic |
| 35.2 | Corded_Ware |
| 12.0 | ITA_Villabruna(WHG) |
| 5.0 | MAR_Taforalt |
| 1.2 | IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728 |
Ponto
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Being European has a lot to do with culture, language, religion, connection to the Greco-Romans civilizations, just as much as it does to your dna results. In a lot of Europe, Russians are outwardly European, but their mentality definitely East Eurasian. The Urals may be the border, but really it runs from the Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Baltic States to Finland. The rest is a mish mash of Europe and Asia. Just ask any German about Russia and its Europeaness, he'll say "Yes, but....
Anyhow my results.
Anyhow my results.
Luso
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Any country in Europe is European and has European people. The whole debate about european-ess beyond that is pathetic