off topic chat thread

[ImHere]

most of the threads I've opened are troll threads lel you are too retarded to understand this. I even trolled the indians on reddit the same way. Indians deserved it. South Asians are so dumb..you're one of those dumb imbecile niggas and I love trolling you nigga

lol, sure, everything becomes a "troll thread" when you want it that way

Yeah, sure, you were surely "trolling" us, because there was totally a point to "troll" us with being suicidal and having no friends, without ever saying it was trolling, until i kept using your own suicide thread against you


Always ready to save your face with bullshit lies

 

[idklolimo]

lol, sure, everything becomes a "troll thread" when you want it that way

Yeah, sure, you were surely "trolling" us, because there was totally a point to "troll" us with being suicidal and having no friends, without ever saying it was trolling, until i kept using your own suicide thread against you


Always ready to save your face with bullshit lies

Ok nigga Tamil feel free to believe what you want...

 

[Kurdquistador]

@ImHere

1. of all stop calling me by my old TA nick . my nickname is Raptor . call me by that

2. i didnt use "south asian shifted pashtun samples" . i used pashtun samples that were available at that time . and i am using pashtun north afghanistan now

here pashtun north afghanistan which has the least south asian of all pashtun samples . even this reference gets almost 30% tamil . even more when you use Gujarati

so whatever pashtun north afghanistan gets as curry ...be sure that other pashtuns will get even more

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3. if you dont want to be in this forum then just dont come back at all

talks about "repetitive" stuff .....but has 1000 sock accounts on TA . seems legit

talks about repetitive stuff . you are in EVERY thread about west asians be it phenotype or genetics . you care a lot for west asian stuff . before you act arrogant look at yourself first ok

 

[Ben Dover]

@Bana da bir bardak su how many sock accounts do you have on TA. A lot of em probably. Likely A lot of em banned too

 

[idklolimo]

@Bana da bir bardak su how many sock accounts do you have on TA. A lot of em probably. Likely A lot of em banned too

I do not have a blocked Apricity account in my history so far. I have opened 4 accounts so far, I deleted 2 of them voluntarily. they did not activate the membership of the other account. I am currently on my way with the title of my 4th account, BOKOTO. I think you're confusing me with Tamil niggas?

 

[Ben Dover]

I do not have a blocked Apricity account in my history so far. I have opened 4 accounts so far, I deleted 2 of them voluntarily. they did not activate the membership of the other account. I am currently on my way with the title of my 4th account, BOKOTO. I think you're confusing me with Tamil niggas?

Why have you had 4 accounts. The bio of your current sock is trollish af

 

[Kurdquistador]

I do not have a blocked Apricity account in my history so far. I have opened 4 accounts so far, I deleted 2 of them voluntarily. they did not activate the membership of the other account. I am currently on my way with the title of my 4th account, BOKOTO. I think you're confusing me with Tamil niggas?

stop using slurs . stop the fight with him . you are annoying me

 

[Ben Dover]

stop using slurs . stop the fight with him . you are annoying me

You are not a nigger nor a tamil so why do you care what he says

 

[Ben Dover]

But you are 3% AASI

 

[Kurdquistador]

You are not a nigger nor a tamil so why do you care what he says

not because of me but because of respect towards those people . as a mod i have to be fair too

But you are 3% AASI

nah . i go by eurogenes k12b , dodecad k12b , harappaworld . and there i am 1.5 - 2% south asian . (which is not higher than turks , assyrians etc. )

also you are talking about Iran N having AASI (which it doesnt really ....only in COMPARISON TO CHG it has such a shift) and when you model me without Iran N but only with CHG then i will get around 3% aasi but the model will have a shit fit at 6-7 or something

but anyway i dont want to discuss this now . the point is that he shall not use racial slurs or slurs in general

 

[Ben Dover]

Me? Lol

I don't have your coordinates. Thereofre I don't know. But you could very well be.

 

[Ben Dover]

nah . i go by eurogenes k12b , dodecad k12b , harappaworld . and there i am 1.5 - 2% south asian . (which is not higher than turks , assyrians etc. )

South Asian component of eu-k12b/dodecad k12b isn't pure AASI hence not great to determine pure AASI.

also you are talking about Iran N having AASI (which it doesnt really ....only in COMPARISON TO CHG it has such a shift) and when you model me without Iran N but only with CHG then i will get around 3% aasi but the model will have a shit fit at 6-7 or something

Even if it has shift that means that it's AASI admixed and its roots are basically CHG which makes sense from archaeological and historical perspective. Your AASI is 3% which isn't a lot so no need to cope there. The fits are worse because Iran_N eats up natufian and AASI and a huge portion of CHG as well. The more it eats up the better the fit hence overfitting. Worse fit doesn't always mean the model is atrocious. In some cases it is more insightful

 

[Ben Dover]

what is your distance? for AASI?

I don't know. I'd imagine that it's somewhere in 0.500 range

 

[Kurdquistador]

South Asian component of eu-k12b/dodecad k12b isn't pure AASI hence not great to determine pure AASI.


Even if it has shift that means that it's AASI admixed and its roots are basically CHG which makes sense from archaeological and historical perspective. Your AASI is 3% which isn't a lot so no need to cope there. The fits are worse because Iran_N eats up natufian and AASI and a huge portion of CHG as well. The more it eats up the better the fit hence overfitting. Worse fit doesn't always mean the model is atrocious. In some cases it is more insightful

not coping . just saying that to determine south asian then the calculators i mentioned are better

and if what you say applies then this would mean that using Iran N is meaningless and that we can just use CHG to model ourselves . which is not true . Iran N is not just CHG + exotic shift . it is its own population with its own specific genomes etc

also if having Iran N makes me 3% AASI then everybodys AASI score is higher . not only mine . but all people who score significant Iran N ...pretty much all northern west asians and even some euros

 

[Ben Dover]

not coping . just saying that to determine south asian then the calculators i mentioned are better

What's the reasoning behind it besides personal experience.

and if what you say applies then this would mean that using Iran N is meaningless and that we can just use CHG to model ourselves .

That's far fetched from what I said. Iran_N is unique in its own way and different from CHG because kt has exotic shifts/admixes but never claimed that only using specific components make sense. You misquoted me. Modeling sometimes while excluding rather related components with different shifts reveal a different picture.

Iran N is not just CHG + exotic shift . it is its own population with its own specific genomes etc

Iran_N is mostly CHG or CHG like as I said before. You have no evidence for the contrary. I agreed with the final sentence and you misquoted me about it.

also if having Iran N makes me 3% AASI then everybodys AASI score is higher . not only mine . but all people who score significant Iran N ...pretty much all northern west asians and even some euros

Not all "NWAs" have a lot of Iran_N. Georgians, especially western ones barely have any and their Iran_N like ancestry is mostly consumed by CHG. Again Iran_N is 60-70% CHG or CHG-like. even I have 9% iran_N but my NWA card is arguable as a semite. Anyway, I am just implying how you get modeled and that's the evidence. Without Iran_N I am 0.4% AASI but dont give too many fucks about it.

 

[Ben Dover]

Maybe that's why AASI and mongoloid are somewhat related to each other, maybe that's why he got 3%.

He gets modeled as 1.5% mongoloid separately from AASI.

 

[Kurdquistador]

What's the reasoning behind it besides personal experience.

That's far fetched from what I said. Iran_N is unique in its own way and different from CHG because kt has exotic shifts/admixes but never claimed that only using specific components make sense. You misquoted me. Modeling sometimes while excluding rather related components with different shifts reveal a different picture.


Iran_N is mostly CHG or CHG like as I said before. You have no evidence for the contrary. I agreed with the final sentence and you misquoted me about it.

Not all "NWAs" have a lot of Iran_N. Georgians, especially western ones barely have any and their Iran_N like ancestry is mostly consumed by CHG. Again Iran_N is 60-70% CHG or CHG-like. even I have 9% iran_N but my NWA card is arguable as a semite. Anyway, I am just implying how you get modeled and that's the evidence. Without Iran_N I am 0.4% AASI but dont give too many fucks about it.

dont tell me that you as a member of the eurogenes k12b gang are doubting our beautiful calculator . i strongly believe that the eurogenes k12b calculator shows real south asian scores

my evidence for the contrary is that the distance between Iran N and CHG on G25 is around 17-19 . even when you model Iran N as CHG + exotics the fit only improves to like 14-15 or something and still a big distance

other than Georgians all NWA score a decent chunk of Iran N . so if having Iran N makes me 3% AASI then everybodies AASI also raises at the same time

 

[Ben Dover]

dont tell me that you as a member of the eurogenes k12b gang are doubting our beautiful calculator . i strongly believe that the eurogenes k12b calculator shows real south asian scores

Strongly believe is the key word here.

Opinions change.

my evidence for the contrary is that the distance between Iran N and CHG on G25 is around 17-19 . even when you model Iran N as CHG + exotics the fit only improves to like 14-15 or something and still a big distance

That could be exolained by the fact that the models are dealing with ancient samples for which the clear outline of the predecessor isn't available. However, sucessful qpAdm runs are also another evidence for Iran_N being CHG+exotic admix. You are still in denial after seeing qpAdm run on Iran_N.

other than Georgians all NWA score a decent chunk of Iran N . so if having Iran N makes me 3% AASI then everybodies AASI also raises at the same time

You don't say 🙂

 

[Ben Dover]

Target: TiglatK36
Distance: 5.5549% / 0.05554875
42.2    Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
29.6    Anatolia_Barcin_N
21.8    Natufian
3.2    AASI
3.2    East_European_HG


Target: Tiglatreal
Distance: 7.2029% / 0.07202949
42.8    Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
26.2    Anatolia_Barcin_N
23.4    Natufian
4.6    East_European_HG
3.0    AASI

My AASI score %3 lel

You and Raptor are AASi twins.

 

[Ben Dover]

what are your results? please

0.4%