off topic chat thread

[Ben Dover]

@Mesoman very legit

It's not legit. It' a simulation just like those gedmatch claculator simulations but someone wrote on reddit that illustrativeDNA G25 coordinates and DNAGENICS simulated G25 coordinates(the one that I wrongfully got) aren't all that different. Still, I need the actual coordinates. How did you get your coordinates? Through illustrativeDNA or by emailing davidski?

 

[Kurdquistador]

IRANtalk ....but paki ....just lol ....these people never unstick

 

[Ben Dover]

There's a guy named "irantalk" who made a video on YouTube about genetics and he's from Pakistan. I sent him the raw data, he analyzed the raw data and gave me the coordinates (davidski coordinates).

Did you pay him for the coordinates?

 

[Ben Dover]

Sorry but this guy doesn't know how to model shit.

 

[Ben Dover]

@Raptor do these look legit to you?

My DNAGENICS ethnicity composition and shared ancient origins for those of you wondering.
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[Ben Dover]

No

Are you sure that he gave you coordinates that are as legit as davidski's coordinates? Also how to I contact him so that I can also get coordinates?

 

[Kurdquistador]

@Raptor do these look legit to you?

i dont know ...... but i dont think the results are good tbh ....looks odd

 

[Ben Dover]

i dont know ...... but i dont think the results are good tbh ....looks odd

Obviously I am not 85% levantine like or 85% levantine. My guess is that it lumps georgian jewish into levantine category and braks down georgian into anatolian+north caucasus. Basically when I concluded that i was less than 1/4 georgian was right. I am 15% georgian and it's also evident on my high natufian + lower CHG scores.

 

[Ben Dover]

Who do you want to connect with? With Davidski? I don't know. To be honest, I don't think there is much difference between k36 and actual coordinates.

I did some more comparisons between how samples with k36 simulated coordinates got modeled and how the samples with actual coordinates got modeled and there was some degree of difference. Which is why I want the actual and non synthetic/ no k36 simulated coordinates.

No, i want to know how i can reach out that that irantalks guy.

 

[Ben Dover]

Levantines What makes Levantines is the high Mediterranean input, the Caucasus and some natufian influence. basically the only difference between levantines and Iranians/Caucasians is they have slightly more natufian score

That's not the only difference. Levantines have far more natufian than caucasians and far less CHG. However levantines do have more ANF than caucasians but CHG has med shift to begin with. Modern day levantines do have a significant influence from iranian/caucasians but they are still more than slightly different from each other.

 

[Kurdquistador]

Levantines What makes Levantines is the high Mediterranean input, the Caucasus and some natufian influence. basically the only difference between levantines and Iranians/Caucasians is they have slightly more natufian score

they dont have only slightly more but significantly more

 

[Ben Dover]

irantalk95@gmail.com

What's his real name?

 

[idklolimo]

What's his real name?

Mohammed Mian

 

[Ben Dover]

If things were fair, levantines should have had the most natufian out of anyone since natufians solely inhabited the Levant. Basically, Gulf Arabs and Yemenis are far more relevant to the levant than modern day Levantines are.

 

[Ben Dover]

Mohammed Mian

I hope you aren't trolling and that's his actual name

 

[Ben Dover]

@Bana da bir bardak su are you trolling or not

 

[Ben Dover]

Target: Tiglat_realcoordinat
Distance: 4.8254% / 0.04825449
34.8    Mediterranean
27.4    Iran_Neolithic
16.0    Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
14.0    Natufian
7.8    East_European_HG


Target: TiglatK36
Distance: 3.2239% / 0.03223867
36.4    Mediterranean
23.4    Iran_Neolithic
19.2    Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
14.4    Natufian
6.6    East_European_HG


Target: Tiglat_realcoordinat
Distance: 4.9403% / 0.04940257
35.4    Anatolia_Barcin_N
33.4    Iran_Neolithic
13.6    Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
12.2    Natufian
5.4    East_European_HG


Target: TiglatK36
Distance: 3.1076% / 0.03107631
37.8    Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.8    Iran_Neolithic
16.4    Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
12.0    Natufian
4.0    East_European_HG

As you can see, there is not much difference between

I tried it on se real and simulated coordinates myself and it was different. Also that 1-3% differences are significant enough.

 

[Ben Dover]

only the natufian score matters here. as you can see it never changes

Modeling isn't only about natufian scores. Other components are just as important and the components that change are more prone to error than those that don't. This is why kt's better to have the actual coordinates.

 

[Ben Dover]

Is it fair to disallow Indians from saying the N word? They are part AASI, therefore not much different from part SSA people who get the N word pass. On top of that Indians aren't white and some of them can even have the same shade of skin as full blown blacks.

 

[Ben Dover]

I agree

We can divide India into North Africa/North India and East Africa/south India. Gulf Arabs/Pakistan, Afghanistan

In terms of AASI/SSA admix then yes thhe proportions are right.