But i just said im not talking about g25, can you read?
Maybe HW is better in this case, if the armenians on HW are Hemsheni
These g25 models for those armenians makes just as much sense as the qpadm models for the balochs
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But i just said im not talking about g25, can you read?
Maybe HW is better in this case, if the armenians on HW are Hemsheni
These g25 models for those armenians makes just as much sense as the qpadm models for the balochs
FinalFlash
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I ran a couple of Hamshen kits on Gedmatch calcs before and they scored very slim to no amounts of steppe kinda like what G25 suggests. Yet on the 2 samples Onyx ran for us, they get 14 and 17% respectively. From basically nothing to about 15-16%. That's a significant difference in my estimation, and probably anyone else's.
you need levant too to model armenians finalflash
FinalFlash
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My point is that Hamshentsi have virtually zero steppe DNA on G25. Added a Levant_Natufian source isn't going to alter this statistic anyway. Yet qpAdm shows an entirely different picture
FinalFlash
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Yes, Catacomb is probably the real source for steppe DNA in Armenians, and not Yamnaya directly.
Where you got these from? A study?
Those pashtuns are definetly the ones from Kurram, Khyberpakhtunwa, Pakistan(has good amount of indic ancestry).
The steppe and IVC in balochs here seems way more reasonable
Edit: Oh wait, seems like g25. Forget
idklolimo
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Nezih Seven blog very good
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Considering the fact there were migrations of indo-aryans, sakas and proto-balochs + migrations from gulf too to Balochistan, i think it would made sense of the baloch average didnt get this high AASI and barely any steppe at all. Doesnt make sense to me?
Its even odd that your calculations could work with both BA2 average and 8276, with balochs getting almost the same amount of both, when both arent the same either(with former being even more significantly AASI shifted)
Its even odd that your calculations could work with both BA2 average and 8276, with balochs getting almost the same amount of both, when both arent the same either(with former being even more significantly AASI shifted)
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"Either way, I don't really care about India, no offense, to be bothered about this, qpAdm works as it's supposed to, you can see it in the following pastebin, in which I am modelled as almost a perfect 50/50 split between my father and mother."
Thats fine. There's obviously something wrong about your models, but you dont have to care.
Thats fine. There's obviously something wrong about your models, but you dont have to care.
Nah, it isnt salt.
There's definetly something wrong with your models. Doesnt fit with history of Balochistan at all. Neither geography.
There was also this Zoro guy(you probably dont know him) who done models of kurds on qpadm, and they got around 10% east eurasian, so maybe people can do something wrong with qpadm?
You can ask zoro which east euraisan references he's using. He usually also uses wusun saka(edit: No wait, it was tianshan. Think those were more east eurasian) to model kurds with.
8276 is getting 18% AASI according to some dna study(i think i can find it somewhere? I assume reich was the one who did it).
The steppe in balochs is also too low. Even sindhi here gets nowhere less than 5% steppe on this study(also used qpadm, though i suspect steppe-mlba is very largely iran N?):
Dont see how balochs can get down to only 0-1% steppe. Even zoro suggests they dont get that low at all.
Edit: Oh wait, he posted them here:
Indo-Europeanization of Iran & Kurdistan – The genetic substructure of the Indo-Iranian invaders - Eurasian DNA
ABSTRACT Sometime between the late Bronze-Age and the early Iron-Age, Iran experienced a linguistic and population replacement. Approximately 2700 years ago, the Indo-Iranian Medes established the Median empire which stretched from north-west Pakistan westwards to Turkey, and thereby brought...
eurasiandna.com
qpadm model of kurds:
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lol at zoro and his agenda ....
I have no idea. I didnt do those models. I assume its something thats 50% yamnaya rus samara/sintashta and 50% iran N or something, considering the jatt gets 70% steppe mlba and pathan gets 50% and their Iran N is largely lower?
onyx modelled Georgian like this in qpAdm
Georgian = 39.7% Anatolian Farmer + 28.2% Iranian Farmer + 10.1% Samara_HG + 21.9% Kotias.
Georgian = 39.7% Anatolian Farmer + 28.2% Iranian Farmer + 10.1% Samara_HG + 21.9% Kotias.