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With zero Onge+Asian ancestry, I'd imagine the Kalash, for example, would almost uniformly resemble those sandy-blonde steppe-looking West Asians.

Kurds have substantial Yamnaya ancestry. G25 doesn't do them justice because it's usually understated.

Stereotypically Irish-looking.

Yes, Catacomb is probably the real source for steppe DNA in Armenians, and not Yamnaya directly.

My point is that Hamshentsi have virtually zero steppe DNA on G25. Added a Levant_Natufian source isn't going to alter this statistic anyway. Yet qpAdm shows an entirely different picture

I ran a couple of Hamshen kits on Gedmatch calcs before and they scored very slim to no amounts of steppe kinda like what G25 suggests. Yet on the 2 samples Onyx ran for us, they get 14 and 17% respectively. From basically nothing to about 15-16%. That's a significant difference in my...

Target: Armenian_Hemsheni:ARK-89 Distance: 0.0390% / 0.03900538 45.9 TUR_Barcin_N 40.2 GEO_CHG 13.9 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N 0.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara Target: Armenian_Hemsheni:ARK-88 Distance: 0.0332% / 0.03316786 45.6 TUR_Barcin_N 35.2 GEO_CHG 19.1...

They do, but it's understated, and often times they don't even show steppe admix but EHG.

It doesn't. Especially for Hamshens. Do a Neolithic run for all individual Hamshentsi on G25 like Onyx's model and post it here.

This is ridiculous. And by "this" I mean G25/Gedmatch :)

Absolutely, Kurds being around 20% steppe, with some being a bit higher and Hamshen having sizeable portions of this ancestry is something G25 would never capture. Even with more proper CHG samples, I don't think they'd be as relevant as Iran_N anyway.

I don't know if qpAdm has satsu or not but if it's anything like Kotias then it won't make any difference in these runs.

Also, I recall Onyx did a run for a Georgian individual using the same N model and this individual scored 18% Kotias if I recall correctly.

There's only 1 CHG sample so that could play a role in terms of what qpAdm prefers. If we had more CHG samples then the numbers may differ somewhat but even then I sincerely doubt any modern-day population would be modeled as 50-60% CHG. CHG on these amateur calcs tends to absorb...

Yes

It's also overestimated proper CHG it seems.

Most likely them and Adygheans/Circassians, yes.

I suspect Syunetsi Armenians, and just Eastern Armenians in general to score higher steppe than the Hamshentsi

His assertions are starting to make a lot of sense thanks to qpAdm.

Yes, an Armenian anthro enthusiast on another forum actually once told me that no modern day population gets modeled as anything more than 30% actual proper CHG.