Kurdish festival in Diyarbakır Province . analyze them . lots of Kurds

[Ben Dover]

i consider all caucasians white

I disagree with that. And you also said that some gulf arabs/peninsular arabs who are non-ssa admixed and fully caucasoid are also white besides those who are too sandnigger looking. My definition of white is basically someone who is of euro origins.

 

[Nassbean]

i saw your some post in ta u think ashkenazis are european because they plot with some euro populations and turks are not european. western anatolian and balkan turks (even they have mongoloid admixture) are also plot with some euro populations. what makes u think jews are european?

i'm not saying because u accept turks as euro. both population is distant to europe to my opinion.

First of all you're from Turkey and you grew up there, your interaction with foreigners is very limited and mostly restricted to the Internet meanwhile I grew up in one of the most cosmopolite city in the world since I was a child I've met people from all over the world including turks, all kinds of euros, sub-saharans, east asians, etc so I know what to expect for certain populations in terms of phenotypes. Ashkenazi jews in general look far more "european/white" than turks heck even more than south europeans in average many blend easily among NW euros meanwhile this is extremely rare for turks.

Secondly, genetically ashkenazi jews have both european and levantine ancestry (many have more euro than levantine ancestry btw) and plot next to south-east europeans this is not the case for most turks and the latter also have substantial amount of central asian and middle eastern ancestry (don't forget that the turks who settled in Anatolia were not fully east asian genetically). Turks are more akin to people in the caucasus and armenia/azerbaidjan/iran than Europe so I don't see what's the point of focusing on fringe/minority groups in anatolia.

 

[KARABOĞA]

agree with many parts but i don' think also ashkenazis blend easily with among nw euros but it's ur opinion maybe i'm wrong.

and it's actually not minority group it's about half of the turkish population.

 

[Kurdquistador]

" caucasus and armenia/azerbaidjan/iran" these people are the closest people to europeans outside of europe and many can pass individually in europe

just sayin

 

[Nassbean]

agree with many parts but i don' think also ashkenazis blend easily with among nw euros but it's ur opinion maybe i'm wrong.

and it's actually not minority group it's about half of the turkish population.

Western anatolians have the highest level of turk ancestry and don't plot as north as ashkenazi jews if I'm not mistaken and as for balkan turks how many of them are there in Turkey ? They are "balkan" after all why taking them as representative of anatolians ? You have minorities of europeans (moriscos) in my country yet no one would take them as representative of moroccans and they look in general different from the average moroccan.

 

[Nassbean]

" caucasus and armenia/azerbaidjan/iran" these people are the closest people to europeans outside of europe and many can pass individually in europe

just sayin

Is there something special about Europe ? Why linking them with Europe ? Seems like many people in the diaspora try to find commonalities between them and people which they subconsciously (if not consciously) perceive as superior to them. Reminds me of how early medieval MENAs used to all larp as "arab" for the prestige and advantages they could get from it ...anyway complexed individuals should work on themselves and keep their dignity.

 

[Kurdquistador]

Is there something special about Europe ? Why linking them with Europe ? Seems like many people in the diaspora try to find commonalities between them and people which they subconsciously (if not consciously) perceive as superior to them. Reminds me of how early medieval MENAs used to all larp as "arab" for the prestige and advantages they could get from it ...anyway complexed individuals should work on themselves and keep their dignity.

no not because of superiority or anything . i am only fed up with people (not you) acting as if you insult their mother when you state facts . like denying things etc

being near eastern is awesome

 

[Ben Dover]

Middle eastern and especially MENA are very broad terms. I have a Yemenite classmate and supposedly we re both Middle eastern but he looks extremely different from me.

 

[Nassbean]

no not because of superiority or anything . i am only fed up with people (not you) acting as if you insult their mother when you state facts . like denying things etc

being near eastern is awesome

I don't think europeans would highlight such close distance tbh only some MENAs like to highlight such "facts" lol

 

[Kurdquistador]

I don't think europeans would highlight such close distance tbh only some MENAs like to highlight such "facts" lol

and guess why .....they dont want to look less european in front of other europeans . and they also dislike the muslim world etc

and what i am saying are facts . i didnt say anything that is not true tbh . so i dont get it why you write "facts"

 

[Kurdquistador]

Middle eastern and especially MENA are very broad terms. I have a Yemenite classmate and supposedly we re both Middle eastern but he looks extremely different from me.

i am talking about northern west asia being closest to europe . not people like yemenese of course

and yes there is no such thing as "middle eastern people" . you and your yemenese classmate are a good example

 

[Nassbean]

Middle eastern and especially MENA are very broad terms. I have a Yemenite classmate and supposedly we re both Middle eastern but he looks extremely different from me.

I used it to talk about the whole area in general I'm not implying there are no differences between its populations. The term itself is eurocentric but it's similar to how you use "black" to speak about populations in SSA meanwhile it's one of the most diverse place on this planet.

 

[Kurdquistador]

I used it to talk about the whole area in general I'm not implying there are no differences between its populations. The term itself is eurocentric but it's similar to how you use "black" to speak about populations in SSA meanwhile it's one of the most diverse place on this planet.

but ssa people are all black and look ssa . while in "middle east" there are too obvious differences to see

 

[idklolimo]

Papuans seem to be predominantly SSA but compared to them swedes are closer to SSA people lol

 

[Nassbean]

and guess why .....they dont want to look less european in front of other europeans . and they also dislike the muslim world etc

and what i am saying are facts . i didnt say anything that is not true tbh . so i dont get it why you write "facts"

Not saying its false I simply used a quotation mark anyway aside from these genetic distances what's the point of trying to associate yourself with people who deeply despise you ? Feels pathetic tbh. This is not something you'll see among north africans or arabs in general but I've seen it many times for lebanese, turks or iranians (at least online because irl turks are very nationalist even though my friend got very upset when I questionned him looking italian lol)

 

[Kurdquistador]

Not saying its false I simply used a quotation mark anyway aside from these genetic distances what's the point of trying to associate yourself with people who deeply despise you ? Feels pathetic tbh. This is not something you'll see among north africans or arabs in general but I've seen it many times for lebanese, turks or iranians (at least online because irl turks are very nationalist even though my friend got very upset when I questionned him looking italian lol)

1. not only genetic distances but also looks overlap

2. many dont despise us

3. i am not trying to associate with anybody . i am only saying that NWA are the closest people to europeans outside of europe . i am VERY happy being Kurdish and NWA . trust me . i am thankful to be what i am

4. "you iwll never see north africans or arabs doing it" .....ok ....lol


this discussion is over you piece of shit bro . i love you !

 

[Nassbean]

but ssa people are all black and look ssa . while in "middle east" there are too obvious differences to see

For a "black" or east asian you all look the same. Historically and today, many sub-saharans called north africans "white" "arab invader" yet myself can easily distinguish my people from either european or arabs.

SSAs are very diverse morphologically and genetically so I disagree an ethiopian will certainly not look like an igbo from Nigeria and the latter will certainly not look like a San from south Africa.

 

[Kurdquistador]

For a "black" or east asian you all look the same. Historically and today, many sub-saharans called north africans "white" "arab invader" yet myself can easily distinguish my people from either european or arabs.

SSAs are very diverse morphologically and genetically so I disagree an ethiopian will certainly not look like an igbo from Nigeria and the latter will certainly not look like a San from south Africa.

many will be able to differentate trust me . you would need to be a bit fucked in the brain to not see the difference between lets say turks/kurds and yemenese in general

and yes i am aware about the differences of ssa

 

[KARABOĞA]

i don't think it's about special about europe for example before anthro forums i didn't know europeans think turks are different them because in here most people think they don't look different. (i mean appereance wise not culturally) that's why there are no white, brown thing in turkey.

 

[KARABOĞA]

i don't think it's about special about europe for example before anthro forums i didn't know europeans think turks are different them because in here most people think they don't look different. (i mean appereance wise not culturally) that's why there are no white, brown thing in turkey.

it's same for georgia imo idk what @Mesoman think but they are also culturally more closer to europe. i don't think most georgians think they are un-white.