some "kurds" from youtube were giving me shit for saying that doms/gypsies are not Kurdish

[Kurdquistador]

as i already said a hundred time we have MANY gypsies living in turkey INCLUDING eastern / southeastern turkey

their numbers are hidden and they are among the least known gypsies in the world



here is a site that is in english language but the page doesnt exist anymore : http://www.domresearchcenter.com/news/turkey/marsh.html

but i saved some of it . it said :

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"The Domari communities of eastern Turkey, like those elsewhere in the region, are one of the least known of all the Gypsy communities in the world. Largely absent from research carried out amongst Gypsy groups in the field of Romani Studies, the Dom of eastern Turkey have remained "hidden" from the view of the scholars and academics in the West since the letters of American missionaries in the late nineteenth century described in brief details their presence in these lands"


" In brief, the Dom of eastern Turkey are the most invisible of all the Gypsy groups."


According to ERRC's Turkey profile (2011-2012) , "the majority of Roma live in Western Anatolia, Thrace, in the Marmara region and the Aegean Sea region while the Dom and Lom groups mostly live in South Eastern and Eastern Turkey". Almost all the Roma in Turkey are Muslims.

for the gypsy thread look here :

classify our gypsies

there is a decent amount of gypsies living in kurdish areas as I said . many people actually dont know that and the numbers are not official but there are hundreds of thousands of gypsies in southeast/east turkey . our gypises are actually some of the most unknown I dont know how to classify...

www.anthroworldforum.com

@KARABOĞA

look at this

and there are several more that i didnt post (yet)

 

[Kurdquistador]

"türk siken pkk"

these are the type of "kurds" saying that our gypsies are ethnic kurds

you think such people wont mix with them ? @KARABOĞA

 

[KARABOĞA]

there are more than 20 million kurds in eastern turkey, some gypsies may have been assimilated (gypsies generally don't assimilate in any society/country or it is difficult to be assimilated, i am not saying the source is wrong) but i don't think this number will be enough to affect the kurdish ethnicity.

many kurds have dna tests, do some of them have a significant gypsy influence? you see many kurdish results, i'm curious.

 

[Kurdquistador]

of course thankfully many kurds dont mix with them ....

BUT ...some will and have done . like these cocksuckers on youtube would

AND as i said many of the gypsies LARP as Kurdish and Turkish

AND there are MANY of them in Turkey including eastern Turkey

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there has been only 1-2 Kits or so of Kurds that i have seen/run where i raised an eyebrow so far and suspected gypsy mix . other than that no

by the way on another site i met a 1/4 gypsy 3/4 Kurdish guy xD

and i have a half gypsy half kurdish gedmatch kit lel

 

[Ben Dover]

of course thankfully many kurds dont mix with them ....

BUT ...some will and have done . like these cocksuckers on youtube would

AND as i said many of the gypsies LARP as Kurdish and Turkish

AND there are MANY of them in Turkey including eastern Turkey

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there has been only 1-2 Kits or so of Kurds that i have seen/run where i raised an eyebrow so far and suspected gypsy mix . other than that no

by the way on another site i met a 1/4 gypsy 3/4 Kurdish guy xD

and i have a half gypsy half kurdish gedmatch kit lel

Can you post the result of that half gypsy half kurdish gedmatch kit eurogenes k12b and k15 results?

 

[Kurdquistador]

Can you post the result of that half gypsy half kurdish gedmatch kit eurogenes k12b and k15 results?

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 24.35
2 East_Med 20.25
3 South_Asian 17.63
4 Eastern_Euro 8.13
5 West_Med 7.73
6 Baltic 5.79
7 Red_Sea 3.81
8 Atlantic 3.49
9 North_Sea 3.2
10 Siberian 2.12
11 Southeast_Asian 1.58
12 Northeast_African 1.05
13 Oceanian 0.7
14 Amerindian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmen 10.38
2 Azeri 14.46
3 Afghan_Uzbeki 15.48
4 Turkish 15.69
5 Tadjik 15.76
6 Iranian 15.89
7 Afghan_Tadjik 16.03
8 Makrani 16.61
9 Kurdish 16.93
10 Afghan_Pashtun 17.96
11 Balochi 18.41
12 Brahui 18.84
13 Kumyk 20.37
14 Ashkenazi 21.88
15 Armenian 22.32
16 Georgian_Jewish 22.67
17 Assyrian 22.97
18 Central_Greek 23.16
19 East_Sicilian 23.62
20 Syrian 23.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.3% Cyprian + 47.7% Burusho @ 4.13
2 53.9% Brahui + 46.1% Ashkenazi @ 4.5
3 50.9% Cyprian + 49.1% Kalash @ 4.56
4 54.5% Balochi + 45.5% Ashkenazi @ 4.58
5 59.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 40.7% Cyprian @ 4.8
6 59.8% Makrani + 40.2% Greek @ 4.89
7 56.5% Brahui + 43.5% Greek @ 5.05
8 73.5% Turkish + 26.5% Brahmin_UP @ 5.11
9 55.5% Brahui + 44.5% Central_Greek @ 5.14
10 67.1% Turkish + 32.9% Punjabi_Jat @ 5.17
11 59.9% Makrani + 40.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.25
12 74.7% Turkish + 25.3% Kshatriya @ 5.26
13 57.4% Makrani + 42.6% Ashkenazi @ 5.26
14 61.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 38.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.26
15 56.1% Balochi + 43.9% Central_Greek @ 5.27
16 56% Brahui + 44% East_Sicilian @ 5.27
17 56.6% Balochi + 43.4% East_Sicilian @ 5.28
18 74.4% Turkish + 25.6% Gujarati @ 5.32
19 54.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 45.9% Burusho @ 5.33
20 50.5% Cyprian + 49.5% Pathan @ 5.34

 

[Ben Dover]

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 24.35
2 East_Med 20.25
3 South_Asian 17.63
4 Eastern_Euro 8.13
5 West_Med 7.73
6 Baltic 5.79
7 Red_Sea 3.81
8 Atlantic 3.49
9 North_Sea 3.2
10 Siberian 2.12
11 Southeast_Asian 1.58
12 Northeast_African 1.05
13 Oceanian 0.7
14 Amerindian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmen 10.38
2 Azeri 14.46
3 Afghan_Uzbeki 15.48
4 Turkish 15.69
5 Tadjik 15.76
6 Iranian 15.89
7 Afghan_Tadjik 16.03
8 Makrani 16.61
9 Kurdish 16.93
10 Afghan_Pashtun 17.96
11 Balochi 18.41
12 Brahui 18.84
13 Kumyk 20.37
14 Ashkenazi 21.88
15 Armenian 22.32
16 Georgian_Jewish 22.67
17 Assyrian 22.97
18 Central_Greek 23.16
19 East_Sicilian 23.62
20 Syrian 23.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.3% Cyprian + 47.7% Burusho @ 4.13
2 53.9% Brahui + 46.1% Ashkenazi @ 4.5
3 50.9% Cyprian + 49.1% Kalash @ 4.56
4 54.5% Balochi + 45.5% Ashkenazi @ 4.58
5 59.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 40.7% Cyprian @ 4.8
6 59.8% Makrani + 40.2% Greek @ 4.89
7 56.5% Brahui + 43.5% Greek @ 5.05
8 73.5% Turkish + 26.5% Brahmin_UP @ 5.11
9 55.5% Brahui + 44.5% Central_Greek @ 5.14
10 67.1% Turkish + 32.9% Punjabi_Jat @ 5.17
11 59.9% Makrani + 40.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.25
12 74.7% Turkish + 25.3% Kshatriya @ 5.26
13 57.4% Makrani + 42.6% Ashkenazi @ 5.26
14 61.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 38.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.26
15 56.1% Balochi + 43.9% Central_Greek @ 5.27
16 56% Brahui + 44% East_Sicilian @ 5.27
17 56.6% Balochi + 43.4% East_Sicilian @ 5.28
18 74.4% Turkish + 25.6% Gujarati @ 5.32
19 54.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 45.9% Burusho @ 5.33
20 50.5% Cyprian + 49.5% Pathan @ 5.34

How come he doesn't get modeled with Kurdish in the mixed mode.

 

[Kurdquistador]

How come he doesn't get modeled with Kurdish in the mixed mode.

she does in harappaworld

she gets modelled as half kurdish half gypsy there

 

[idklolimo]

Not like a Kurdish gypsy mix. Looks like a Turkish gypsy mix

 

[idklolimo]

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 24.35
2 East_Med 20.25
3 South_Asian 17.63
4 Eastern_Euro 8.13
5 West_Med 7.73
6 Baltic 5.79
7 Red_Sea 3.81
8 Atlantic 3.49
9 North_Sea 3.2
10 Siberian 2.12
11 Southeast_Asian 1.58
12 Northeast_African 1.05
13 Oceanian 0.7
14 Amerindian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmen 10.38
2 Azeri 14.46
3 Afghan_Uzbeki 15.48
4 Turkish 15.69
5 Tadjik 15.76
6 Iranian 15.89
7 Afghan_Tadjik 16.03
8 Makrani 16.61
9 Kurdish 16.93
10 Afghan_Pashtun 17.96
11 Balochi 18.41
12 Brahui 18.84
13 Kumyk 20.37
14 Ashkenazi 21.88
15 Armenian 22.32
16 Georgian_Jewish 22.67
17 Assyrian 22.97
18 Central_Greek 23.16
19 East_Sicilian 23.62
20 Syrian 23.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.3% Cyprian + 47.7% Burusho @ 4.13
2 53.9% Brahui + 46.1% Ashkenazi @ 4.5
3 50.9% Cyprian + 49.1% Kalash @ 4.56
4 54.5% Balochi + 45.5% Ashkenazi @ 4.58
5 59.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 40.7% Cyprian @ 4.8
6 59.8% Makrani + 40.2% Greek @ 4.89
7 56.5% Brahui + 43.5% Greek @ 5.05
8 73.5% Turkish + 26.5% Brahmin_UP @ 5.11
9 55.5% Brahui + 44.5% Central_Greek @ 5.14
10 67.1% Turkish + 32.9% Punjabi_Jat @ 5.17
11 59.9% Makrani + 40.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.25
12 74.7% Turkish + 25.3% Kshatriya @ 5.26
13 57.4% Makrani + 42.6% Ashkenazi @ 5.26
14 61.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 38.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.26
15 56.1% Balochi + 43.9% Central_Greek @ 5.27
16 56% Brahui + 44% East_Sicilian @ 5.27
17 56.6% Balochi + 43.4% East_Sicilian @ 5.28
18 74.4% Turkish + 25.6% Gujarati @ 5.32
19 54.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 45.9% Burusho @ 5.33
20 50.5% Cyprian + 49.5% Pathan @ 5.34

@KARABOĞA
What do you think?

 

[idklolimo]

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 24.35
2 East_Med 20.25
3 South_Asian 17.63
4 Eastern_Euro 8.13
5 West_Med 7.73
6 Baltic 5.79
7 Red_Sea 3.81
8 Atlantic 3.49
9 North_Sea 3.2
10 Siberian 2.12
11 Southeast_Asian 1.58
12 Northeast_African 1.05
13 Oceanian 0.7
14 Amerindian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmen 10.38
2 Azeri 14.46
3 Afghan_Uzbeki 15.48
4 Turkish 15.69
5 Tadjik 15.76
6 Iranian 15.89
7 Afghan_Tadjik 16.03
8 Makrani 16.61
9 Kurdish 16.93
10 Afghan_Pashtun 17.96
11 Balochi 18.41
12 Brahui 18.84
13 Kumyk 20.37
14 Ashkenazi 21.88
15 Armenian 22.32
16 Georgian_Jewish 22.67
17 Assyrian 22.97
18 Central_Greek 23.16
19 East_Sicilian 23.62
20 Syrian 23.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.3% Cyprian + 47.7% Burusho @ 4.13
2 53.9% Brahui + 46.1% Ashkenazi @ 4.5
3 50.9% Cyprian + 49.1% Kalash @ 4.56
4 54.5% Balochi + 45.5% Ashkenazi @ 4.58
5 59.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 40.7% Cyprian @ 4.8
6 59.8% Makrani + 40.2% Greek @ 4.89
7 56.5% Brahui + 43.5% Greek @ 5.05
8 73.5% Turkish + 26.5% Brahmin_UP @ 5.11
9 55.5% Brahui + 44.5% Central_Greek @ 5.14
10 67.1% Turkish + 32.9% Punjabi_Jat @ 5.17
11 59.9% Makrani + 40.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.25
12 74.7% Turkish + 25.3% Kshatriya @ 5.26
13 57.4% Makrani + 42.6% Ashkenazi @ 5.26
14 61.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 38.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.26
15 56.1% Balochi + 43.9% Central_Greek @ 5.27
16 56% Brahui + 44% East_Sicilian @ 5.27
17 56.6% Balochi + 43.4% East_Sicilian @ 5.28
18 74.4% Turkish + 25.6% Gujarati @ 5.32
19 54.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 45.9% Burusho @ 5.33
20 50.5% Cyprian + 49.5% Pathan @ 5.34

Kit number?

 

[Kurdquistador]

Not like a Kurdish gypsy mix. Looks like a Turkish gypsy mix

it is a half kurdish half gypsy person . it is confirmed

 

[idklolimo]

it is a half kurdish half gypsy person . it is confirmed

Kit number?

 

[idklolimo]

it is a half kurdish half gypsy person . it is confirmed

The European scores of the Kurds are not that high. Turks are usually this high. that's why i'm asking

 

[Kurdquistador]

The European scores of the Kurds are not that high. Turks are usually this high. that's why i'm asking

it is only a little higher than in Kurds

i am asking myself right now if you have even checked Kurdish results threads

there are kurds that get 7-8 % west or north european . if i remember right some even get 9%

 

[idklolimo]

it is only a little higher than in Kurds

i am asking myself right now if you have even checked Kurdish results threads

there are kurds that get 7-8 % west or north european . if i remember right some even get 9%

Whichever his Kurdish parent was, the European rate was definitely high, 20-25%.It is not possible for the Kurds to get such a European rate.

 

[Kurdquistador]

Whichever his Kurdish parent was, the European rate was definitely high, 20-25%.It is not possible for the Kurds to get such a European rate.

the gypsy parent is a gypsy from west turkey or balkans who have european admix

 

[idklolimo]

the gypsy parent is a gypsy from west turkey or balkans who have european admix

after all this is not a dom gypsy

 

[Kurdquistador]

after all this is not a dom gypsy

yes .

i wish we could see dom results

but i have gypsy kit numbers from iraq . i posted their results already if you remember

 

[Kurdquistador]

my harappa results vs dom